Hello all,

I need a new phone and I'd like an iphone. However, my mac is 10.3.9 and I don't want the phone if I can't hook it up to the computer. So, can anyone here point me in the right direction as to where I can find this? Physical copies would be greatly appreciated. Can anyone help?

Thank you.

Can't you just update it through their website?

10.3.9 = Panther
10.4 = Tiger = $$$$

there're a bunch of places where you can download Tiger.
i would get Leopard though. if your mac can run it,t hen try it out. it-s great.

System Version: Mac OS X 10.4.11 (8S2167)
Kernel Version: Darwin 8.11.1
Boot Volume: Macintosh HD
Computer Name: Peter Clarke’s Computer
User Name: Peter Clarke (peterclarke)

Yeah, I found a kind soul who plans on sending me the install discs sometime soon.

I'm on an older lamp iMac 800mhz 256ram, I think it can handle 10.4.

But, while we're on the subject, check out this mac dilemma, I've been experiencing lately.

So, my 60gig HD was getting pretty full and I had about 500mb free space. So I fired up my external, and moved about 20gigs of music off my HD and onto my external, leaving me with an ample 20 or so gigs of free space.

But, ever since then the computer has been crazy unstable. Itunes crashes at least once a day, forcing me to do a hard restart. Its a major pain and quite vexing considering it was running great with 500mb free and now with a bunch of more space its acting totally crappy. Not to mention the sound of the thing, it sounds like a jet engine.

Does this sound like a common problem at all? What can I do to get it back running smoothly? Zap the pRam?

Help?...if you can.

sounds like a RAM issue maybe with an updated itunes?

Anything I can do about it myself? I think if I can 10.4 running, I can use one of those lightweight itunes alternatives, that'd be great.

Don't take this as the bible truth, but it might be a good idea to have at least 1GB of RAM. You'd just find out what memory type fits into your computer, buy the correct one with enough RAM and install it. Installation is as easy as putting the card in place.

Troof. I'm only running on 512mb of ram and I really should double that

Updating to 10.4 + more RAM makes sense all around anyways. But I don't think you've ever felt the anxiety a mac user feels when they need to open up the case on their aesthetically pleasing machinery.






You mean reset the pRam? I'm not a hardware expert, but if there are processes stored in pRam, this might explain why iTunes is crashing considering you transferred files. Do you have iTunes playing the music you have stored on your external?

pRam (non-volatile memory):
"Some drawbacks to Flash memory include the requirement to write it in larger blocks than many computers can atomically address, and performance limitations preventing Flash from matching the response times and, in some cases, the random addressability offered by traditional forms of RAM."


I've had my Mac sound like a jet engine before too. It's probably a lot of background processes causing this. I forget what the commands are "you don't use it, you lose it" to list, (then identify) and soft kill processes via Darwin. But that's something you could attempt to do with some help from google.



Considering you are upgrading to 10.4 I would definitely invest in more memory. 256, these days, is like trying to go 100 miles on 1 gallon of gas, yanno? In fact if this says anything, in the hardware lab where I took a class 2 years ago, 256 RAM chips weren't the ones being stolen out of the lab storage bins. Just sayin...

You have a lamp iMac? Cool!
Take care of it!


I have a 20" G5 iMac (pre IBM processors).

I'm still running 10.3.9. I have 1GB RAM in it though, so I just have to quit being a cheap skate and go buy Leopard. Right now, my Mac is nothing short of a glorified DVD player. I used to use it for work. (graphics/web development/mac user client consultation)

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Do you feel like your pecker just got bigger because you copied and pasted your system information?

YUP

SuperNintendoChalmers,


If your jet's engines are still set to afterburn try opening the Force Quit menu, and see if there are any Apps running that shouldn't be and you can easily shut them down via the GUI:


Hit Command-Option-Escape to bring up the Force Quit menu
or if you're using a Logitech/ non Apple keyboard keyboard Hit Windows-Alt-Esc
http://osxdaily.com/2007/05/03/kill-a-f ... beachball/


Or try these command lines via Terminal:
# ps -aux list all processes running from all users, -ux will list only processes of current user
# kill -9 [pid] kill the specified process id (basically force quit for the command line)


Also I think you can use the command:

# killall [name of application]


Also read this before killing a process. Hard kills are dangerous. And apparently kill -9 is controversial...lol
http://speculation.org/garrick/kill-9.html


**note: Might be a good idea to keep Terminal (Darwin) in the Dock too. lol...that comes in handy even though you may not need it very often. Or at least set a keyboard shortcut to open it.

if only they could make commands as simple as "stop shutting down for no reason"

If they did that though, everyone would become a do-it-yourselfer and there would be no job security for all the geeks of the world.


gaawd I love this t-shirt...

Someday I'll have enough $ to buy it.

Hey, thanks for the advice. I haven't really checked on this thread in some time. My problem is still pretty much the same. I did manage to get a copy of 10.4 and the discs are staring at me right now. But, I can't bring myself to upgrade in fear that it will fuck everything up on such an old machine.

I'd love to add memory, but yeah, cracking open this computer scares the daylights out of me as I'm not inclined to tinkering.

My itunes still locks everything up just about once a day.

I want to to do this, what do ya'll think.

I want to take my music folder and move it over to my external and then erase everything itunes related except the latest exported library.xml file. I then empty the trash, reinstall iTunes, and move all my music back to the itunes folder and then import the old library.xml file. I figure that could act like a defrag. And if it runs smooth after that, partition 100gigs on my external make a carbon system copy and then install 10.4

Sounds good, but with a Unix based system, which MAC OS X is, there is no such thing as defrag.
In summation, this is one of the reasons why you will always hear Mac users say Mac is better than PC. But you will never hear many Mac users explain WHY Mac is better than PC. Because they don't really KNOW why. Now, you know.