Iranian to be blinded with acid for doing same to woman
An Iranian woman, blinded by a jilted stalker who threw acid in her face, has persuaded a court to sentence him to be blinded with acid himself under Islamic law demanding an eye for an eye.
Ameneh Bahrami refused to accept "blood money." She insisted instead that her attacker suffer a fate similar to her own "so people like him would realize they do not have the right to throw acid in girls' faces," she told the Tehran Provincial Court.
Her attacker, a 27-year-old man identified in court papers as Majid, admitted throwing acid in her face in November 2004, blinding and disfiguring her. He said he loved her and insisted she loved him as well.
He has until early this week to appeal the sentence.
Doctors say there is no chance Bahrami will recover her vision, despite repeated operations, including medical care in Spain partially paid for by Iran's reformist former president, Mohammed Khatami, who was in power when the attack took place.
Majid said he was still willing to marry Bahrami, but she ruled out the possibility and urged that he remain locked up.
"I am not willing to get blood money from the defendant, who is still thinking about destroying me and wants to take my eyes out," she told the court. "How could he pretend to be in love? If they let this guy go free, he will definitely kill me."
Bahrami told the court that Majid's mother had repeatedly tried to arrange a marriage between the two after Majid met Bahrami at university.
She rejected the offer, not even sure at first who the suitor was. Her friends told her he was a man who had once harassed her in class, leading to an argument between them.
But he refused to accept her rejection, she said, going to her workplace and threatening her.
Finally, she lied and told him she had married someone else and that "it would be better all around if he would leave [her] alone."
She told the court that she reported the conversation to police, saying he had threatened her with "burning for the rest of my life" -- but they said they could not act until a crime had been committed.
Two days later, on November 2, 2004, as she was walking home from work, she became aware of a man following her. She slowed, then stopped to let him pass.
"When the person came close, I realized that it was Majid," she said. "Everything happened in a second. He was holding a red container in his hand. He looked into my eyes for a second and threw the contents of the red container into my face."
Bahrami knew exactly what was happening, she said.
"At that moment, I saw in my mind the face of two sisters who years ago had the same thing happen to them. I thought, 'Oh, my God -- acid.' "
Passers-by tried to wash the acid off Bahrami, then took her to Labafinejad Hospital.
"They did everything possible for me," she said of the doctors and nurses there.
Then, one day, they asked her to sign papers allowing them to operate on her.
"I said, 'Do you want to take my eyes out?' The doctor cried and left."
They did want to remove her eyes surgically, she learned, for fear they would become infected, potentially leading to a fatal infection of her brain.
But she refused to allow it, both because she was not sure she could handle it psychologically, and because she thought her death would be easier for her family to bear.
"If I had died, my family would probably be sad for a year and mourn my death, and then they would get used to it," she told the court. "But now every day they look at me and see that I am slowly wasting away."
The three-judge panel ruled unanimously on November 26 that Majid should be blinded with acid and forced to pay compensation for the injuries to Bahrami's face, hands and body caused by the acid.
That was what she had demanded earlier in the trial. But she did not ask for his face to be disfigured, as hers was. "Of course, only blind him and take his eyes, because I cannot behave the way he did and ask for acid to be thrown in his face," she said. "Because that would be [a] savage, barbaric act. Only take away his sight so that his eyes will become like mine. I am not saying this from a selfish motive. This is what society demands."
Attacking women and girls by throwing acid in their faces is sufficiently common in countries such as Bangladesh and Cambodia that groups have been formed to fight it. Human rights organizations have condemned the practice in Afghanistan and Pakistan. It is not clear how often such attacks take place in Iran.
Iran and Saudi Arabia are the only countries that consider eye-gouging to be a legitimate judicial punishment, Human Rights Watch has said.
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Post subject: Re: an eye for an eye (or two), literally
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:49 am
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they do not have the right to throw acid in girls' faces
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Post subject: Re: an eye for an eye (or two), literally
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:08 am
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Remove his sight and turn the guy into a beggar. I guess the main reason that eye for an eye is stupid is that is totally economically counter-productive.
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Post subject: Re: an eye for an eye (or two), literally
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:25 am
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Human Bass wrote:
I guess the main reason that eye for an eye is stupid is that is totally economically counter-productive.
that and two wrongs don't make a right??
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Post subject: Re: an eye for an eye (or two), literally
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:14 am
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vacatetheword wrote:
Human Bass wrote:
I guess the main reason that eye for an eye is stupid is that is totally economically counter-productive.
that and two wrongs don't make a right??
People understand that better when they feel in their wallets.
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Post subject: Re: an eye for an eye (or two), literally
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:32 am
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Human Bass wrote:
Remove his sight and turn the guy into a beggar. I guess the main reason that eye for an eye is stupid is that is totally economically counter-productive.
That's why hanging is so much better, and more fun too.
Post subject: Re: an eye for an eye (or two), literally
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:37 am
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Human Bass wrote:
Remove his sight and turn the guy into a beggar. I guess the main reason that eye for an eye is stupid is that is totally economically counter-productive.
well like bufalohed said, if there's a death penalty, someone will get hired to fill that spot and therefore it will have lowered the number of unemployed people by 1.
so maybe an eye for an eye is unproductive, but a life for an eye isn't.
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Post subject: Re: an eye for an eye (or two), literally
Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:21 pm
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i didn't realise anyone in the middle east cared about women's rights. aren't they still restricted to showing only their faces in public, if they're even allowed to go without a veil? i don't think blinding him solves anything, but if the courts are considering it, it can probably be seen as progress for understanding that women are not inferior
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Post subject: Re: an eye for an eye (or two), literally
Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:35 pm
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PeopleMyAge wrote:
i didn't realise anyone in the middle east cared about women's rights. aren't they still restricted to showing only their faces in public, if they're even allowed to go without a veil? i don't think blinding him solves anything, but if the courts are considering it, it can probably be seen as progress for understanding that women are not inferior
Actually women have some basic rights there. But this isnt about women right, its just about vegeance.
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Post subject: Re: an eye for an eye (or two), literally
Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:56 pm
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HB, i know its not about women's rights, i was simply saying that at one point i remember hearing that in a lot of middle eastern countries women are treated as second class citizens
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Post subject: An eye for an eye....or eyes in this case.
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:56 pm
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I like this broad's moxie.
Woman blinded by acid wants same fate for attacker
By Reza Sayah CNN
TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- Ameneh Bahrami is certain that one day she'll meet someone, fall in love and get married. But when her wedding day comes, her husband won't see her eyes, and she won't see her husband. Bahrami is blind, the victim of an acid attack by a spurned suitor.
If she gets her way, her attacker will suffer the same fate. The 31-year-old Iranian is demanding the ancient punishment of "an eye for an eye," and, in accordance with Islamic law, she wants to blind Majid Movahedi, the man who blinded her.
"I don't want to blind him for revenge," Bahrami said in her parents' Tehran apartment. "I'm doing this to prevent it from happening to someone else."
Bahrami says she first crossed paths with Movahedi in 2002, when they attended the same university.
She was a 24-year-old electronics student. He was 19. She never noticed him until they shared a class. He sat next to her one day and brushed up against her. Bahrami says she knew it wasn't an accident.
"I moved away from him," she said, "but he brushed up against me again."
When Bahrami stood up in class and screamed for him to stop, Movahedi just looked at her in stunned silence. He wouldn't stay silent for long.
Bahrami said that over the next two years, Movahedi kept harassing her and making threats, even as he asked her to marry him. "He told me he would kill me. He said, 'You have to say yes.' "
On a November afternoon in 2004, Movahedi's threats turned to violence.
That day at 4:30 p.m., Bahrami left the medical engineering company where she worked. As she walked to the bus stop, she remembers sensing someone behind her.
She turned around and was startled to see Movahedi. A moment later came the agonizing pain. Movahedi had thrown something over her. What felt like fire on her face was acid searing through her skin.
"I was just yelling, 'I'm burning! I'm burning! For God's sake, somebody help me!' "
The acid seeped into Bahrami's eyes and streamed down her face and into her mouth. When she covered her face with her hands, streaks of acid ran down her fingers and onto her forearms.
Two weeks after the attack, Movahedi turned himself in to police and confessed in court. He was convicted in 2005 and has been behind bars all along.
Bahrami's lawyer, Ali Sarrafi, said Movahedi had never shown any remorse. "He says he did it because he loved her," Sarrafi said.
Attack victims in Iran usually accept "blood money": a fine in lieu of harsh punishment. With no insurance and mounting medical bills, Bahrami could've used the cash, but she said no.
"I told the judge I want an eye for an eye," Bahrami said. "People like him should be made to feel my suffering."
Bahrami's demand has outraged some human rights activists. Criticizing acid-attack victims is almost unheard of, but some Internet bloggers have condemned Bahrami's decision.
"We cannot condone such cruel punishment," wrote one blogger. "To willingly inflict the same treatment on a person under court order is a violation of human rights."
Late last year, an Iranian court gave Bahrami what she asked for. It sentenced Movahedi to be blinded with drops of acid in each eye. This month, the courts rejected Movahedi's appeal.
Bahrami's lawyer, Sarrafi, said the sentencing might be carried out in a matter of weeks. He said he doesn't think Bahrami will change her mind. Neither does Bahrami.
"If I don't do this and there is another acid attack, I will never forgive myself for as long as I live," she said.
Bahrami is largely self-sufficient despite not being able to see. She can make a salad, prepare tea and walk up the five flights of stairs that lead to her parents' apartment.
She has undergone more than a dozen surgeries on her badly scarred face, but she says there are many more to come. She can't afford to pay for her medical care, so she's using the Internet to raise money.
She's lost her big brown eyes, but she likes to smile, especially when she imagines her wedding day.
"I always see myself as someone who can see and sometimes see myself in a beautiful wedding gown, and why not?"
Gotta love how the only opposition CNN could find were "some Internet bloggers"
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Post subject: Re: An eye for an eye....or eyes in this case.
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:58 pm
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i posted this awhile ago.
_________________ No matter how dark the storm gets overhead They say someone's watching from the calm at the edge What about us when we're down here in it? We gotta watch our backs
_________________ No matter how dark the storm gets overhead They say someone's watching from the calm at the edge What about us when we're down here in it? We gotta watch our backs
Post subject: Re: An eye for an eye....or eyes in this case.
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:06 pm
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Lysander wrote:
Jammer91 wrote:
Pussy ass courts. Let that dude get a face fulla hydrochloric son.
Should we be allowed to beat you senseless because you subject us to your posts?
He descends into senselessness on an almost nightly basis, so that part of any beating would be moot. Painful bruises and abrasions would be the only thing added to the mix.
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