Post subject: Re: Vocoders on just about every pop song lately
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:11 pm
Got Some
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Autotune
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i can't believe it took mainstream radio so long to come around on auto-tune. the main problem with the plug-in is people having no fucking clue how to use it. it can still be used subtley and correctly for a good purpose though.
Post subject: Re: Vocoders on just about every pop song lately
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:27 pm
Got Some
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To be fair, Autotune is not just for amateurs. Rod Stewart uses it. Brendan O'Brien likes to have it around for small, nuanced fixes so that he can process a strong vocal out front without revealing any weaknesses, and it's present in Life Wasted.
It's a simple toy to use, too. Any 10 year old could figure out how to hide the side-effects pretty well. If you have a lot of the Autotune sound on the vocal, it's because you put it there on purpose.
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Post subject: Re: Vocoders on just about every pop song lately
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:28 pm
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Having said that, it got deleted from my DAW two months ago after many, many months of being ignored. Gimme the missed note, not the perfect take.
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yea i'm not so sure about the 10-year old part. obviously there's a big difference in using it as an effect versus cleaning something up, but i'm afraid too many people aim for the latter and it sounds closer to the former and not in a good way. then again you can't polish a turd either.
Post subject: Re: Vocoders on just about every pop song lately
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:10 pm
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walls wrote:
yea i'm not so sure about the 10-year old part. obviously there's a big difference in using it as an effect versus cleaning something up, but i'm afraid too many people aim for the latter and it sounds closer to the former and not in a good way. then again you can't polish a turd either.
Lately it sounds like all the singers on pop stations are robots
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Post subject: Re: Vocoders on just about every pop song lately
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:47 pm
Yeah Yeah Yeah
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mecca2687 wrote:
flavdave wrote:
Talk box and vocoders aren't the same as Auto-Tune.
yeah, thats a pretty sizable fail
Yeah, i know the difference, I've been in music since i was 5. I was just pointing out that artists manipulating their voices for effect have been around for a while. And guys like Kanye West and T-pain do it for effect, rather than to correct their pitch to be in key.
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