What I find especially hilarious about this coming from LW is that this fool is going to get health care from the government for the rest of his life. Why? Because he spent 4 years in the Marines, went on a skate-as-fuck deployment during a time of war and didn't do shit but take pictures and post on the internet, and he will get veterans benefits for this. You want to talk about a leech on society? This speaks for itself.

If LW had any honor whatsoever he would get his own damned health care, seeing as how he didn't do shit while he was in the military, didn't go and fight like the rest of us did, and sure as hell didn't get injured like so many people did. And he damned well did nothing to deserve being supported by the government for the rest of his life.

I actually went on a real deployment and had to fight when I was in the military, but guess what, I didn't get injured, so I don't try to squirm my way into the system (which I could easily do) and I get my own healthcare now. I see my own private doctor and have not been to a VA hospital since I got out, since I don't think it is right to take advantage of the system like that. Taking advantage of the system, exactly what LW does now yet so vehemently denounces in people that legitimately need help.

The point is, LW is a hypocritical bitch.

Tell us how you really feel.

Oh yeah? Well, let's see here. I enlisted in December of 99. I was officially discharged, medically, March 20th, 2007. So far as I'm concerned, that's just a bit more than four years. In fact, I would be willing to bet that I have more time of active service on my DD-214 as a reservist than you did in your four years on active duty. Did you re-enlist? Fuck no. Because you're fucking whiny bitch who doesn't even deserve to wear the title of "United States Marine." I volunteered to do...let's see here...three deployments. And when I came back and was in Lejeune, I was trying to hop onto a deployment that would take to a place that you endlessly whine and bitch about. In my motor-T billet, I probably went on...ohhhh...hundreds more combat zone patrols than you ever did, in an infantrymans billet. And I have a long list of medals and citations to prove it. What did you get out of your time of service? A GWOT and national defense ribbon? A time of war? Ironic isn't it. You'll sit here and try and denegrate my service, but you're so fucking stupid that you have no fucking clue about what was going on in the Horn of Africa during that time period, or what the US was really doing in Somalia/Ethiopia/Kenya. Nor can you use for your fucking head to wrap your mind around and figure out what the ONLY MARINE CORPS SOMALI INTERPRETER MAY HAVE BEEN DOING DURING THIS TIME PERIOD. I know you're IQ is no higher than 75 B-hed. But do me a favor. Why don't you take a look at what was going on around Christmas of 06 in my neck of the woods. And then after that, you can go fuck yourself, because you just might have clue. I'm sorry that you're a selfish little bitch that did nothing above and beyond what was asked for him. But don't hold that against me. You are the biggest fucking hypocrite that I've ever encountered on the internet. You'll bitch about my service, when you have no idea what my service was except what I decide to share here, and the shit that I earned that I'll never even wear to a Marine Corps ball. Shit that you could only dream of. While you bitch about your service, and criticize me, I was volunteering to go on the same deployment that you piss and moan about. You'll sit here and bitch about rich people, conservatives that don't do shit, but then you'll use my volunteer experience that I spent in my spare time between the hundreds of combat patrols, high profile security missions...and a lot of other stuff that I will never talk about on this forum. Keep in mind, you had nothing but contempt for the repressed, impoverished, people that you were supposed to protect. You're fucking hypocritical bitch.

I'm not. I talked the talk, and I walked the walk my entire Marine Corps career. I never quit on the Marine Corps like you, I'd be in Iraq this fucking minute with my unit if I hadn't been forced out with a fucking heart condition that I contracted while I was fucking overseas. So go fuck yourself.



Yeah, I have that too. Man, you are so smart. It's so easy to see now why you joined the Marine Corps. It certainly wasn't to serve your country and help people like a good ideal little liberal. Fucking poor Ay-rabs. We should just turn that place you served in into a glass parking lot right?



You have no fucking idea what I did. But again, I highly encourage you to read up on shit that went down towards the end of December 06, then use your imagination.



Oh yeah man, only a life threatening heart condition. I mean. Fuck. That's not like getting injured is it though.



Yup, and all you do is bitch about it. And if you were given the choice again, you wouldn't do it. You regret it. You wish you weren't apart of it.

I tried with all my worth, and even had my private doctor sign off on my paperwork after ending up in an ICU after nearly dying so I could go on another deployment to a combat zone within CENTCOM at the Marine Corps discretion. You, on the other hand, quit like a jaded teenager because things within the system weren't perfect and you didn't like your staff sargeant.



I see my own private doctor too. In fact, I saw him last week. I use both systems because I earned one, and want a second opinion aside from the VA. Ya know, because that's the intelligent thing to do. It's fantastic too, because should you come down with a strange bizarre syndrome like I did, you're gonna go crying to the VA for treatment and disability and they're gonna tell you to fuck off because you didn't matriculate yourself in a timely manner after your discharge. Then you're gonna bitch about the VA just like you bitch about your time in Afghanistan and all those poor dumb Ay-rabs that you'd just assume be dead. Then you'll be a fodder piece for liberal activists to strike out against the military and the VA. You could even do appearances with "Veterans against the War" and talk about how shitty your experience was in Afghanistan and how traumatized it made you, and how the VA won't take care of your service connected health conditions.

If I hadn't been put into the VA system, there's a damn good chance that I could be up shits creek in a few years time, unable to work, and unable to collect any sort of disability because I was too lazy, or too stupid to simply take my DD-214 to a local VA facility and get a yearly healthcare checkup. But that's okay B-hed. This board can always stand to absorb a little more of your whiny, pathetic, closed minded bitching sessions when your knees go bad, you can no longer work (because you clearly do not have the mental capacity to do anything outside of physical labor. Oh wait, that's right, you're going to be a scientist working on fusion technology.)



Just to send the message home. You spent four years in the Marine Corps and hated it. You went on a deployment and hated it. The only reason you went on the deployment was because you were forced to go. You were probably one of those guys that did nothing but work out, play video games, and watch movies for the entire deployment, and bitched about it, and your command the entire time you were there. You got out of the corps after one four year contract because you were a little bitch. And now you're trying to ride on a white horse because you're not in the VA...mainly because you're a fucking idiot who's gonna end up getting fucked years down the road. I spent more time on active duty as a reservist over 8 years than you did as an active duty Marine. I volunteered to go on deployments. I took on secondary billets just to go. I took on an extra skill set that sent me to all corners of the Somali speaking world during the middle of an all out war. And in my spare time I did a whole shit ton of good. I believe in philanthropy and helping others, and that's how I spent my spare time there. I didn't fucking watch movies, go to the gym, and play video games. I learned a language, volunteered at orphanages, and finished it all in a billet WAY outside of my pay grade. And when got back I volunteered some more, but in the end, I was medically discharged for a service connected heart condition.

But wait. I showed pictures from town, the countryside, and the orphanages that I proudly volunteered at, so that must be all I did over there. Oh no, I forgot, you know a guy who sat in a fucking tower for his entire deployment, and then played video games to piss time away in Djibouti. So obviously that's what I did.

Yeah man, you got me all figured out you piece of rotting human shit.

In all seriousness. You, like many others, do not deserve to carry the title of United States Marine.

Though I still fundamentally disagree with almost all of his politics, I just suddenly gained an inordinate amount of respect for LittleWing.

this thread is fuckin epic

I had to check the title to remember what was being argued about.

Yeah, let's keep this on topic and out of the personal swipes. Thanks.

We can include decriminalizing Qat and make Somalia topical.

Hey, B-hed and L-wing...SEMPER FI!

Always Faithful to your comrade. You guys remember that motto?

For shame on you both!

LuLz

You two need to smoke a bowl or something.

hahahahaha.

1. So you were a reservist that joined pre-9/11. A reservist in a time of peace is nothing but a leech on the government, getting massively disproportionate benefits for almost nothing compared to active duty servicemen.

2. War comes around and you request deployments to Djibouti. Your 3 deployments there is commendable and noone can take it away from you. I worked with dozens of guys that deployed to Djibouti, some of my best friends had been there, and it is nothing more than a glorified guardpost. I know that for a fact. It is entirely possible that you did some really good things there that helped a lot of people, but that doesn't change the fact that deployment to Djibouti is a skate-as-fuck deployment and every Marine I worked with that had been there knew it.

3. If you hadn't requested to go back to Djibouti, you very probably would have ended up in Iraq, which is where I imagine most of your reserve unit went. How did you feel, requesting again and again to go to Djibouti, while your buddies were probably sent to Iraq? If they weren't sent to Iraq, you had a hell of a lucky reserve unit.

4. You were motor T. Again, motor T in Iraq is no fucking joke, but motor T anywhere else is little more than the subject of jokes. Hardly a step above admin. The only MOS that has leave to talk shit about the Infantry is Force Recon, and Motor T is a long way from Force Recon.

5. Stop pretending Djibouti was some deadly combat zone. You may well have had some altercation there once in the three deployments you went on, but I'm not impressed. Djibouti is hardly more dangerous than being stationed in Germany, and you and I damn well know it. It's about the equivalent of Gitmo, which is where the other half of my battalion went (before I got there) while the rest were in Djibouti.

6. I'm sure you got lots of medals. Why? Because the military gives medals for stupid ass shit. Most of the admin Marines I knew in Washington DC had more medals than anyone I ever saw in an infantry battalion. But since you asked, I had a lot more than a GWOT and national defense, not that I give two shits about them, and haven't ever worn them. 3/6 got a PUC, some navy meritorious unit ribbon, and something else I don't remember. By the way, where's your combat action ribbon? Do you have one, tough guy, with your hundreds of "combat" patrols? Laughable, combat patrols in Djibouti. That's like a combat patrol in Camp Lejeune.

7. It's utterly laughable that you did "shit I could only dream of" in Djibouti. Djibouti! Ask any Marine what he thinks about someone who requested multiple deployments there while everyone else was in Iraq and Afghanistan getting blown up, shot at, and killed.

8. You seem to imply that you would have stayed in forever if you hadn't gotten hurt. Is that a fact? Is that why you went in as a reservist, to make a career out of it? It's pretty hard to make all those millions that you want to make being an enlisted lifer.

9. Damn right I didn't re-enlist. You think I'm ashamed of that? Hah! Most lifers in the Marines are the scum of the earth. Anyone that has any kind of aspirations to do something with their life gets out of the military as soon as they can.

10. I'm glad you had so much spare time to take care of poor Djiboutians and take pictures. On real deployments, there is no such thing as free time, not for Marines, unless you are air wing. As a matter of fact, the first base I was at, for 4 months, in Afghanistan had no gym and no electrical outlets. The only time I even had access to the internet was the very last month I was there. Oh, and in combat zones, you can't just leave the base and chill with the locals during your "free time". People that do that get shot or kidnapped.

11. As to my IQ, LOL. You know why I spent a year in Washington DC as my first duty station? Because I was selected along with 7 other Marines with the highest GT scores out of my entire boot camp company to be in the Presidential Support program. And after that, myself and one other of those seven passed the defense language aptitude battery and qualified to go to foreign language and decryption intelligence school, which requires even higher GT scores, but we didn't get selected since we had already been assigned Presidential Support.





Good for you. Too bad you still leech off the government, as well.


So there was fighting for part of one month out of all of your deployments. How many Marines were wounded in combat? Again, do you have a combat action ribbon? As a matter of fact, I don't care if you have the combat action ribbon, because my entire battalion got one despite the fact that India company stayed in Bagram the whole time on a guard mission because they were too fucked up to be trusted at the real FOBs. Yet they got combat action ribbons all the same.


Pray tell, how exactly did you get a heart condition because of the military? Were you shot in the chest? Did you get malaria? Was it something that you somehow wouldn't have gotten if you were back home in New York?

Did you get a purple heart? I know guys that got purple hearts for as little as a dislocated shoulder from an IED, surely you must have gotten one for your life threatening condition.


Haha, I don't bitch about my deployment nor do I regret it. But yeah, I fucking hated it, and so did 95% of the guys I was with. Yeah, you're right, most people that deploy don't ever want to do it again. Guys commit suicide so they don't have to go to Iraq again. I knew someone that shot himself in the leg (and got deployed anyway). Guess what, tough guy? In Iraq and Afghanistan, people get killed. I'd like to see how anxious you would be to go back to a place where you saw your friends get killed for no reason.

If I "quit" like a "jaded teenager" because I didn't reenlist, I guess so did all the other people who got out and went on to get an education and actually do something with their life. The real winners like you stay in forever, right?


Ah, here is where we reach my original point. So, you deserve health care from the government for the rest of your life because you got "injured" (with a heart condition...) in Djibouti? Hey, so you have your own doctor too, good for you. But guess what. You also go to a VA doctor. The government pays for your health care. I can't remember your stance on the government providing services for people who are in need. What about for people who are not in need, and who plan on making millions, like yourself?

By the way, who do you think should be taxed to pay for your "military related heart condition"?


Right. Only Motor T reservists who sign up repeatedly for the safest deployments and then brag about how many combat patrols they went on, like yourself, deserve the title of United States Marine. I got it.

And you're damn right I hated most of it. So did almost everyone else in the infantry. You think normal people enjoy getting blown up and watching their friends die? Are you that demented?

Your idea of a deployment to Iraq or Afghanistan is pretty telling. We only sit around and play video games, right? Especially Marine infantry. That's why thousands of combat troops have died, because they spent all their time in front of a screen. I didn't see a video game the entire time I was deployed.

Oh and by the way, my information is in the VA system. I filed it before I got out, so all of that hypothetical nonsense you say will happen to me... sorry, it won't. Nevertheless, I'm not the one getting free health care because I have some sense that the goverment owes me.

And like I said, I'm sure you did some good for the Somali people. Props to you for that at least. Most of the people you were with probably didn't give two shits about them. You should feel lucky that you were on a deployment lax enough that you could spend your time like that outside of missions, because for all you denigrate myself and other Marines who weren't as philanthropic as yourself, we weren't in Djibouti and we didn't exactly have those luxuries.


You may have done some good things in the military. I never said you didn't. But in the end, it boils down to this. You, who hates government handouts and the government helping people more than anyone on this board, are going to be getting healthcare from the government for the rest of your life, no matter how much taxes go down or how bad the economy is. You, who didn't fight in either of the two wars our country is in, where people who put everything on the line for their country got injured and killed, will get essentially the same benefits as them. In fact, money the VA spends on people like yourself is money that they don't have to spend on people with brain damage and missing limbs.

Not that I think deserving to be called a Marine is a particularly great honor, I'm comfortable with the fact that I at least earned it.

lol @ new subject

Edit: It keeps changing, the last one was much funnier.

Isn't this title a bit presumptive?

It used to be:

Post subject: Re: Two Marines compare penis size

The first post might have had some of that, admittedly, as I was actually drunk when I posted it, though it wasn't the intent. The intent was to make a point. It has now turned into comparing penis sizes in a most ridiculous fashion, since I generally don't give a shit what someone does in the military, unless it leads to them being a hypocrite.

I respect LittleWing for what he did, but I will say this--calling Buffalohead a coward for not re-enlisting isn't really fair. He already volunteered to potentially be killed, I don't think you can blame him for not doing that again if, you know, he doesn't want to be killed. So you can attack him for not re-enlisting and then doing something else contradictory for that, but for the simple fact of getting out when his time was up, sorry, I wouldn't judge anyone who did the same.

This will be an all-time great spin-off thread.