I've set it up so that this is a 172 song competition, the songs came from the song list on pearl jam.com. They consist of the songs from the 8 studio releases, 1 B-side Compilations disc (entitled: Lost Dogs), songs that were just released as singles, the 16 10Club Holiday Singles, the two songs from the Singles Soundtrack, and then to top off the 172 song list I added the songs that were titled "PJ Original" but they can't be found on any media.
If you'd like to see the list where I got the songs from, you can go to: https://www.pearljam.com/music/songs. The only Cover Songs that I've included in this tournament are songs that were released by the 10Club for the Holiday Singles.
Now onto the Brackets and the rules to this tournament:
I've divided up the 172 songs into 4 groups (43 songs each). Each bracket was given the unofficial name of 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008. I gave them these titles because I gave the number one seed in each of these brackets to the March Madness champion of that year, I also gave those songs a bye through the 1st and 2nd rounds (denoted on the graphic as Champion Provisional.
The Top Ten Songs in each bracket was ranked by pearljamfan80, and then 11-43 were randomly sorted by the website random.org.
With an odd number in each bracket, I had to come up with what I found as a good and unique way to get this tournament down to the Final Four and then to the Champion of all 172 songs.
This is what I came up with, 1st Round will have 14 matches of 3 songs in each match. (Song A versus Song B versus Song C).
After the 1st round all future rounds will just be a duel, Song A versus Song B.
When we get the champion of all 4 brackets the final four will be like this, the Winner of Bracket 2005 and 2007 will face off against each other, then the winner of Bracket 2006 and 2008 will face off.
First Round Match 1: #8 Hail Hail 25 - #37 Last Soldier 4 - #22 Green Disease 2 Match 2: #9 Grievance 22 - #36 Whipping 6 - #23 Let Me Sleep 3 Match 3: #6 Sad 21 - #39 Leash 8 - #20 Big Wave 2 Match 4: #12 Fatal 16 - #33 You're True 1 - #26 Gone 14 Match 5: #13 Stupid Mop 0 - #32 Get Right 0 - #27 Once 31 Match 6: #18 Blood 11 - #41 Leaving Here 2 - #4 Long Road 18 Match 7: #2 Given To Fly 25 - #43 Out of My Mind 0 - #16 Alone 5 Match 8: #15 You Are 23 - #30 No More 6 - #29 Ramplings 92 1 Match 9: #7 Last Exit 27 - #38 Happy When I'm Crying 0 - #21 Around The Bend [/b]3[/b] Match 10: #10 Low Light 19 - #35 Comatose 7 - #24 Crown of Thorns 4 Match 11: #5 Indifference 30 - #40 Little Sister 0 - #19 Don't Gimme No Lip 0 Match 12: #11 Love Boat Captain 26 - #34 Can't Help Falling In Love 3 - #25 Swallow My Pride 1 Match 13: #14 Olympic Platinum 3 - #31 Nothingman 25- #28 Bugs 2 Match 14: #17 Gimme Some Truth 2 - #42 Nothing As It Seems 7 - #3 Present Tense 21
Second Round Match 15: #8 Hail Hail 18 -11 #9 Grievance Match 16: #6 Sad 27-2 #12 Fatal Match 17: #27 Once 13-16 #4 Long Road Match 18: #2 Given To Fly 25-4 #15 You Are Match 19: #7 Last Exit 21-8 #10 Low Light Match 20: #5 Indifference 22-7 #11 Love Boat Captain Match 21: #31 Nothingman 10-18 #3 Present Tense
Quarterfinals Winners Have Been Reseeded Match 22: #1 I Got Shit 18 - 13 #8 Long Road Match 23: #4 Sad 12 - 19 #5 Last Exit Match 24: #2 Indifference 12 - 19 #7 Present Tense Match 25: #3 Given To Fly 18 - 13 #6 Hail Hail
Semifinals Match 26: #1 I Got Shit 8 - 15 #5 Last Exit Match 27: #7 Present Tense 12 - 20 #3 Given To Fly
Bracket Final Match 28: #5 Last Exit 14 - 15 #3 Given To Fly
First Round Match 1: #8 Betterman 14 - #37 State of Love and Trust 15 - #22 Parachutes 0 Match 2: #9 Insignificance 14 - #36 Hard to Imagine 13 - #23 All Night 2 Match 3: #6 World Wide Suicide 19 - #39 Reach Down 3 - #20 Thumbing My Way 7 Match 4: #12 Deep 12 - #33 Garden 16 - #26 Bu$hleaguer 1 Match 5: #13 Come Back 16 - #32 Sleight of Hand 11 - #27 I Believe In Miracles 2 Match 6: #18 Help Help 2 - #41 Can't Keep 6 - #4 In My Tree 21 Match 7: #2 Do The Evolution 23 - #43 Even Flow 6 - #16 In the Moonlight 1 Match 8: #15 Spin The Black Circle 17 - #30 Undone 10 - #29 Just A Girl 3 Match 9: #7 Breath 27 - #38 Education 3 - #21 Santa God 0 Match 10: #10 Red Mosquito 18 - #35 Hold On 2 - #24 Man Of The Hour 10 Match 11: #5 I Am Mine 29 - #40 Whale Song 0 - #19 Last Kiss 1 Match 12: #11 Rockin' In The Free World 6 - #34 Ramblings 91 0 - #25 Oceans 24 Match 13: #14 W.M.A. 12 - #31 Brain Of J. 18- #28 I Just Want To Have Something To Do 0 Match 14: #17 Soldier Of Love 3 - #42 Gods' Dice 5 - #3 Alive 22
Second Round Match 15: #37 State of Love and Trust 26 - 12 #9 Insignificance Match 16: #6 World Wide Suicide 13 - 25 #33 Garden Match 17: #13 Come Back 8 - 30 #4 In My Tree Match 18: #2 Do The Evolution 33 - 5 #15 Spin The Black Circle Match 19: #7 Breath 21 - 17 #10 Red Mosquito Match 20: #5 I Am Mine 22 - 16 #25 Oceans Match 21: #31 Brain Of J. 12 - 26 #3 Alive
Quarterfinals Winners Have Been Reseeded Match 22: #1 Corduroy 25 - 5 #8 Garden Match 23: #4 I Am Mine 6 - 24 #5 Alive Match 24: #3 In My Tree 19 - 11 #6 Breath Match 25: #2 Do The Evolution 21 - 9 #7 State of Love and Trust
Semifinals Match 26: #1 Corduroy 15 - 17 #5 Alive Match 27: #3 In My Tree 10 - 22 #2 Do The Evolution
Bracket Final Match 28: #5 Alive 9 - 14 #2 Do The Evolution
First Round Match 1: #8 Down 26 - #37 U 3 - #22 Jingle Bells 0 Match 2: #9 Severed Hand 14 - #36 Love Reign O'er Me 13 - #23 Someday At Christmas 2 Match 3: #6 Small Town 16 - #39 Jeremy 10 - #20 Thin Air 3 Match 4: #12 Sweet Lew 2 - #33 Habit 7 - #26 Wash 20 Match 5: #13 I'm Open 4 - #32 Arc 6 - #27 1/2 Full 19 Match 6: #18 Soon Forget 2 - #41 Leatherman 0 - #4 Not For You 27 Match 7: #2 In Hiding 21 - #43 Satan's Bed 8 - #16 Aye Davanita 2 Match 8: #15 Who You Are 18 - #30 Save You 11 - #29 Black Red Yellow 2 Match 9: #7 Parting Ways 29 - #38 Sleepless Nights 0 - #21 Untitled 2 Match 10: #10 Footsteps 10 - #35 All Those Yesterdays 17 - #24 Army Reserve 4 Match 11: #5 Marker In The Sand 11 - #40 Brother 3 - #19 Why Go 17 Match 12: #11 Angel 4 - #34 Rival 13 - #25 MFC 14 Match 13: #14 Dead Man Walking 4 - #31 All Or None 8 - #28 Daughter 19 Match 14: #17 Wasted Reprise 0 - #42 Breakerfall 7 - #3 Rearviewmirror 24
Second Round Match 15: #8 Down 19 - 11 #9 Severed Hand Match 16: #6 Small Town 20 - 10 #26 Wash Match 17: #27 1/2 Full 3 - 27 #4 Not For You Match 18: #2 In Hiding 19 - 11 #15 Who You Are Match 19: #7 Parting Ways 14 - 16 #35 All Those Yesterdays Match 20: #19 Why Go 20 - 10 #25 MFC Match 21: #28 Daughter 25 - 5 #3 Rearviewmirror
Quarterfinals Winners Have Been Reseeded Match 22: #1 Immortality 24 - 6 #8 All Those Yesterdays Match 23: #4 Down 12 - 18 #5 In Hiding Match 24: #3 Rearviewmirror 19 - 11 #6 Why Go Match 25: #2 Not For You 21 - 9 #7 Small Town
Semifinals Match 26: #1 Immortality 21 - 11 #5 In Hiding Match 27: #3 Rearviewmirror 21 - 11 #2 Not For You
Bracket Final Match 28: #1 Immortality 16 - 7 #3 Rearviewmirror
Tentative Matchup Schedule: (48 Hours Voting) March 9-10 Bracket 2005 1st Round Left Side Matches March 11-12 Bracket 2006 1st Round Left Side Matches March 13-14 Bracket 2007 1st Round Left Side Matches March 16-17 Bracket 2008 1st Round Left Side Matches March 18-19 Bracket 2005 1st Round Right Side Matches March 20-21 Bracket 2006 1st Round Right Side Matches March 22-23 Bracket 2007 1st Round Right Side Matches March 24-25 Bracket 2008 1st Round Right Side Matches March 26-27 Bracket 2005 2nd Round Matches March 28-29 Bracket 2006 2nd Round Matches March 30-31 Bracket 2007 2nd Round Matches April 1-2 Bracket 2008 2nd Round Matches April 3-4 Bracket 2005/2006 Quarter Finals April 5-6 Bracket 2007/2008 Quarter Finals April 7-8 Bracket Semi Finals April 9-10 Bracket Finals April 11-12 Final Four Semi Finals April 13-14 Final Four Championship
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Post subject: Re: 2009 Pearl Jam March Madness Tournament
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:06 am
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I know I'm being extremely picky but is there a better color for the font than red? I'm having a hard time seeing some of the songs. Otherwise, great work.
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Post subject: Re: 2009 Pearl Jam March Madness Tournament
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:50 am
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Monkey_Driven wrote:
I know I'm being extremely picky but is there a better color for the font than red? I'm having a hard time seeing some of the songs. Otherwise, great work.
Post subject: Re: 2009 Pearl Jam March Madness Tournament
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:06 am
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done and done
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Post subject: Re: 2009 Pearl Jam March Madness Tournament
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:40 pm
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pearljamfan80 wrote:
Hey stip, any seeding issues in any of the brackets? (I hand picked #s2-10 in each)
lowlight may be too high, but there is no easy way to do this so I wouldn't worry too much about it
it is a little hard to read Rick. But I think that is more a reflection of how crowded the first round is. I would definitley think about actually typing out the round I matches for people so it is clear what songs are up against what.
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Post subject: Re: 2009 Pearl Jam March Madness Tournament
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:42 pm
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stip wrote:
pearljamfan80 wrote:
Hey stip, any seeding issues in any of the brackets? (I hand picked #s2-10 in each)
lowlight may be too high, but there is no easy way to do this so I wouldn't worry too much about it
it is a little hard to read Rick. But I think that is more a reflection of how crowded the first round is. I would definitley think about actually typing out the round I matches for people so it is clear what songs are up against what.
Yeah, that's what I meant earlier. The red font isn't easy to read on some of those brackets.
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Post subject: Re: 2009 Pearl Jam March Madness Tournament
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:37 pm
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stip wrote:
pearljamfan80 wrote:
Hey stip, any seeding issues in any of the brackets? (I hand picked #s2-10 in each)
lowlight may be too high, but there is no easy way to do this so I wouldn't worry too much about it
it is a little hard to read Rick. But I think that is more a reflection of how crowded the first round is. I would definitley think about actually typing out the round I matches for people so it is clear what songs are up against what.
I tried to add board opinion into my seedings. Otherwise you'd have songs like Spin the Black Circle and Blood as #2/3 seeds.
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Post subject: Re: 2009 Pearl Jam March Madness Tournament
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:38 pm
Poney Girl
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:17 pm Posts: 45120
Monkey_Driven wrote:
stip wrote:
pearljamfan80 wrote:
Hey stip, any seeding issues in any of the brackets? (I hand picked #s2-10 in each)
lowlight may be too high, but there is no easy way to do this so I wouldn't worry too much about it
it is a little hard to read Rick. But I think that is more a reflection of how crowded the first round is. I would definitley think about actually typing out the round I matches for people so it is clear what songs are up against what.
Yeah, that's what I meant earlier. The red font isn't easy to read on some of those brackets.
Oh yeah,
Guys that's a nobrainer, duh, you guys must not really know in of the "Tournament Sheriff"s works. :-\
First Round Match 1: #8 Hail Hail vs. #37 Last Soldier vs. #22 Green Disease Match 2: #9 Grievance vs. #36 Whipping vs. #23 Let Me Sleep Match 3: #6 Sad vs. #39 Leash vs. #20 Big Wave Match 4: #12 Fatal vs. vs. #33 You're True vs. #26 Gone Match 5: #13 Stupid Mop vs. #32 Get Right vs. #27 Once Match 6: #18 Blood vs. #41 Leaving Here vs. #4 Long Road Match 7: #2 Given To Fly vs. #43 Out of My Mind vs. #16 Alone Match 8: #15 You Are vs. #30 No More vs. #29 Ramplings 92 Match 9: #7 Last Exit vs. #38 Happy When I'm Crying vs. #21 Around The Bend Match 10: #10 Low Light vs. #35 Comatose vs. #24 Crown of Thorns Match 11: #5 Indifference vs. #40 Little Sister vs. #19 Don't Gimme No Lip Match 12: #11 Love Boat Captain vs. #34 Can't Help Falling In Love vs. #25 Swallow My Pride Match 13: #14 Olympic Platinum vs. #31 Nothingman vs. #28 Bugs Match 14: #17 Gimme Some Truth vs. #42 Nothing As It Seems vs. #3 Present Tense
First Round Match 1: #8 Off He Goes vs. #37 Inside Job vs. #22 Driftin' Match 2: #9 Tremor Christ vs. #36 Sonic Reducer vs. #23 History Never Repeats Match 3: #6 Light Years vs. #39 Other Side vs. #20 Evacuation Match 4: #12 Push Me, Pull Me vs. #33 Gremmie Out of Control vs. #26 Pilate Match 5: #13 Lukin vs. #32 Wishlist vs. #27 Bee Girl Match 6: #18 Dissident vs. #41 Ramblings 93 vs. #4 Faithfull Match 7: #2 Release vs. #43 Hitchhiker vs. #16 Cropduster Match 8: #15 Animal vs. #30 Goat vs. #29 Don't Believe in Christmas Match 9: #7 Porch vs. #38 Ghost vs. #21 Strangest Tribe Match 10: #10 Go vs. #35 Crapshoot Rapture vs. #24 Mankind Match 11: #5 Yellow Ledbetter vs. #40 Dirty Frank vs. #19 My Way Match 12: #11 Unemployable vs. #34 Sometimes vs. #25 No Way Match 13: #14 Life Wasted vs. #31 Rats vs. #28 Pry, To Match 14: #17 Glorified G vs. #42 Of The Girl vs. #3 Smile
First Round Match 1: #8 Betterman vs. #37 State of Love and Trust vs. #22 Parachutes Match 2: #9 Insignificance vs. #36 Hard to Imagine vs. #23 All Night Match 3: #6 World Wide Suicide vs. #39 Reach Down vs. #20 Thumbing My Way Match 4: #12 Deep vs. #33 Garden vs. #26 Bu$hleaguer Match 5: #13 Come Back vs. #32 Sleight of Hand vs. #27 I Believe In Miracles Match 6: #18 Help Help vs. #41 Can't Keep vs. #4 In My Tree Match 7: #2 Do The Evolution vs. #43 Even Flow vs. #16 In the Moonlight Match 8: #15 Spin The Black Circle vs. #30 Undone vs. #29 Just A Girl Match 9: #7 Breath vs. #38 Education vs. #21 Santa God Match 10: #10 Red Mosquito vs. #35 Hold On vs. #24 Man Of The Hour Match 11: #5 I Am Mine vs. #40 Whale Song vs. #19 Last Kiss Match 12: #11 Rockin' In The Free World vs. #34 Ramblings 91 vs. #25 Oceans Match 13: #14 W.M.A. vs. #31 Brain Of J. vs. #28 I Ust Want To Have Something To Do Match 14: #17 Soldier Of Love vs. #42 Gods' Dice vs. #3 Alive
First Round Match 1: #8 Down vs. #37 U vs. #22 Jingle Bells Match 2: #9 Severed Hand vs. #36 Love Reign O'er Me vs. #23 Someday At Christmas Match 3: #6 Small Town vs. #39 Jeremy vs. #20 Thin Air Match 4: #12 Sweet Lew vs. #33 Habit vs. #26 Wash Match 5: #13 I'm Open vs. #32 Arc vs. #27 1/2 Full Match 6: #18 Soon Forget vs. #41 Leatherman vs. #4 Not For You Match 7: #2 In Hiding vs. #43 Satan's Bed vs. #16 Aye Davanita Match 8: #15 Who You Are vs. #30 Save You vs. #29 Black Red Yellow Match 9: #7 Parting Ways vs. #38 Sleepless Nights vs. #21 Untitled Match 10: #10 Footsteps vs. #35 All Those Yesterdays vs. #24 Army Reserve Match 11: #5 Marker In The Sand vs. #40 Brother vs. #19 Why Go Match 12: #11 Angel vs. #34 Rival vs. #25 MFC Match 13: #14 Dead Man Walking vs. #31 All Or None vs. #28 Daughter Match 14: #17 Wasted Reprise vs. #42 Breakerfall vs. #3 Rearviewmirror
Post subject: Re: 2009 Pearl Jam March Madness Tournament
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:24 pm
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my suggestion is that you don't go for what is pretty. You want clarity. The pictures in the back are nice but we might be better off without them.
ahhh--that last post you put up while I was typing was perfect
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Post subject: Re: 2009 Pearl Jam March Madness Tournament
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:27 pm
Poney Girl
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stip wrote:
my suggestion is that you don't go for what is pretty. You want clarity. The pictures in the back are nice but we might be better off without them.
ahhh--that last post you put up while I was typing was perfect
I just wanted to do something a little different than the other single elimination tournaments that flood the board, I mean after all this is the ANNUAL March Madness Tournament.
Post subject: Re: 2009 Pearl Jam March Madness Tournament
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:43 pm
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Did pearljamfan80 use any sort of method to rank the songs #2-10? Betterman's ranked lower than like 30 songs (like Light Years?)? And how's Stupid Mop at #13?
I mean no disrespect. I'm sure this took a ton of work. Just wondering. I'm probably reading this wrong anyway.
Anyway, I want Betterman to win this time. It's become my favorite PJ song.
Post subject: Re: 2009 Pearl Jam March Madness Tournament
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:53 pm
Poney Girl
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:17 pm Posts: 45120
Sandler wrote:
Did pearljamfan80 use any sort of method to rank the songs #2-10? Betterman's ranked lower than like 30 songs (like Light Years?)? And how's Stupid Mop at #13?
I mean no disrespect. I'm sure this took a ton of work. Just wondering. I'm probably reading this wrong anyway.
Anyway, I want Betterman to win this time. It's become my favorite PJ song.
Really the rankings mean jack-shit, sorry for the language, but I was doing this for fun. I asked pearljamfan80 to look over the 43 songs in each of the brackets and rank 2-10 (because I didn't want end up having a MAJOR match up happen in the first round). So yes, some of it might be personal bias on his part, but really if I would have gotten somebody else to do it or even if I did it, you'd through in your own personal bias.
He worked in board likes for the top 2-10 songs in his rankings, but he is only human and so the human element of bias definitely probably showed into his picks. But it really doesn't matter. I don't think I have major songs matching up against each other in the first round.
As for your question of how Stupid Mop is #13, I'll tell you that after I recieved the top 10 for each bracket, I took the rest of the songs 11-43 and just plugged them into the website (random.org) and randomized the rest of the order (I think I even noted this in the header post, if not then here it is now.)
Post subject: Re: 2009 Pearl Jam March Madness [Starts March 9th]
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:43 pm
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the seeds don't matter too much
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Post subject: Re: 2009 Pearl Jam March Madness [Starts March 9th]
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:49 pm
Poney Girl
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stip wrote:
the seeds don't matter too much
Nope just a matter of trying to get it too A) look like a regular tournament, and B) hopefully extending the MAJOR songs into the final stages, without any major matches in the first round.
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