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drifting away wrote:
I find it truly hillarious but totally fitting for 10 club to have previously had the disclaimer stating something to the effect of "Don't Worry, we have more than enough copies of the Super Deluxe to fill all orders"
To now displaying the Temorarily Out of Stock but we promise to get more message.
Why make the statement in the first place about having plenty to fill all orders?
They probably looked at the rate at which people were buying these and figured that would take them to 3/24. The rate must have increased, probably when all those people afraid to carry the charge on their credit card finally jumped in.
It's a tough call. I probably wouldn't have posted on the website and just replied to e-mails with something like "at the current time, the rate at which purchases are being made, it appears that most likely, supply will probably meet demand, but the market is fickle and we can only make an educated guess. We may not be able to notify Ten Club members in advance of selling out. Maybe. We think. Possibly."
But that's just me.
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I've been following this thread pretty closely for updates, and I don't remember this being addressed at all: will the "Drop in the Park" LP be the full concert or just selections? The 10C goods section says it's "LP of the band’s 1992 'Drop in the Park' concert"; but on Amazon.com, we've got, "LP 3 & 4: Drop in the Park - Live at Magnuson Park in Seattle on September 20, 1992 (audio mixed by Brendan O'Brien) "Even Flow," "Once," "State Of Love And Trust," "Why Go," "Deep,", "Jeremy," "Black," "Alive," "Garden," "Porch"."
That is an interesting observation, but I really doubt they would bother to do that. It would be REALLY lame if they did that, especially for the amount of money people are spending on this.
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drifting away wrote:
That is an interesting observation, but I really doubt they would bother to do that. It would be REALLY lame if they did that, especially for the amount of money people are spending on this.
It's not about "bothering" to do it. They'd have to pay royalties to the writers of those cover songs if they released them. For example, they clipped that Ted Nugent jam from the NYE 92 disc, and they clipped the covers and unreleased songs from the Dissident 3 disc set of teh ATL 94 show.
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punkdavid wrote:
drifting away wrote:
That is an interesting observation, but I really doubt they would bother to do that. It would be REALLY lame if they did that, especially for the amount of money people are spending on this.
It's not about "bothering" to do it. They'd have to pay royalties to the writers of those cover songs if they released them. For example, they clipped that Ted Nugent jam from the NYE 92 disc, and they clipped the covers and unreleased songs from the Dissident 3 disc set of the ATL 94 show.
That is an interesting observation, but I really doubt they would bother to do that. It would be REALLY lame if they did that, especially for the amount of money people are spending on this.
It's not about "bothering" to do it. They'd have to pay royalties to the writers of those cover songs if they released them. For example, they clipped that Ted Nugent jam from the NYE 92 disc, and they clipped the covers and unreleased songs from the Dissident 3 disc set of the ATL 94 show.
And they can't afford it ?
seriously.
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Patrick Bateman wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
drifting away wrote:
That is an interesting observation, but I really doubt they would bother to do that. It would be REALLY lame if they did that, especially for the amount of money people are spending on this.
It's not about "bothering" to do it. They'd have to pay royalties to the writers of those cover songs if they released them. For example, they clipped that Ted Nugent jam from the NYE 92 disc, and they clipped the covers and unreleased songs from the Dissident 3 disc set of the ATL 94 show.
And they can't afford it ?
Why would you assume this would be a band decision?
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punkdavid wrote:
Patrick Bateman wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
drifting away wrote:
That is an interesting observation, but I really doubt they would bother to do that. It would be REALLY lame if they did that, especially for the amount of money people are spending on this.
It's not about "bothering" to do it. They'd have to pay royalties to the writers of those cover songs if they released them. For example, they clipped that Ted Nugent jam from the NYE 92 disc, and they clipped the covers and unreleased songs from the Dissident 3 disc set of the ATL 94 show.
And they can't afford it ?
Why would you assume this would be a band decision?
I'd assume this because after 18 years of telling us it's all about the music, i'd find the pill a little bitter to swallow. I, maybe naïvely, believe they have at least some kind of power.
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Power? Little enough when you're signed to a major label None whatsoever when you're collaborating on a re-issue or hits package. See Radiohead if you doubt this. Pj are lucky as they have good relations with Sony.
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dimejinky99 wrote:
Power? Little enough when you're signed to a major label None whatsoever when you're collaborating on a re-issue or hits package. See Radiohead if you doubt this. Pj are lucky as they have good relations with Sony.
I increasingly suspect (and this is just my suspicion, I haven't compiled evidence or anything) that the band is actually pretty removed from a lot of the decisions it makes as an orgainization, and instead trusts the people in its management to do the right thing, without following through on what that is. I have a hard time imagining them getting pissed off about paying royalties to Neil Young
So I think it is more a case of negligence than 'hypocrisy'--although it's not like negligence is a good thing either.
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punkdavid wrote:
drifting away wrote:
That is an interesting observation, but I really doubt they would bother to do that. It would be REALLY lame if they did that, especially for the amount of money people are spending on this.
It's not about "bothering" to do it. They'd have to pay royalties to the writers of those cover songs if they released them. For example, they clipped that Ted Nugent jam from the NYE 92 disc, and they clipped the covers and unreleased songs from the Dissident 3 disc set of the ATL 94 show.
this isn't two random covers they never played before or since...it's friggin Free World and Sonic Reducer...they've been paying royalties on those for years, what's another release with them?
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punkdavid wrote:
drifting away wrote:
That is an interesting observation, but I really doubt they would bother to do that. It would be REALLY lame if they did that, especially for the amount of money people are spending on this.
It's not about "bothering" to do it. They'd have to pay royalties to the writers of those cover songs if they released them. For example, they clipped that Ted Nugent jam from the NYE 92 disc, and they clipped the covers and unreleased songs from the Dissident 3 disc set of the ATL 94 show.
The fact that RITFW won't be on the Unplugged DVD would indicate that the covers won't be included on the live LP unfortunately which means another half-assed Pearl Jam release. I really hate incomplete concerts.
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rimb wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
drifting away wrote:
That is an interesting observation, but I really doubt they would bother to do that. It would be REALLY lame if they did that, especially for the amount of money people are spending on this.
It's not about "bothering" to do it. They'd have to pay royalties to the writers of those cover songs if they released them. For example, they clipped that Ted Nugent jam from the NYE 92 disc, and they clipped the covers and unreleased songs from the Dissident 3 disc set of the ATL 94 show.
The fact that RITFW won't be on the Unplugged DVD would indicate that the covers won't be included on the live LP unfortunately which means another half-assed Pearl Jam release. I really hate incomplete concerts.
I can see why they wouldn't want RITFW from the Unplugged on the DVD, i've always thought it was a pretty bad version.
Power? Little enough when you're signed to a major label None whatsoever when you're collaborating on a re-issue or hits package. See Radiohead if you doubt this. Pj are lucky as they have good relations with Sony.
I increasingly suspect (and this is just my suspicion, I haven't compiled evidence or anything) that the band is actually pretty removed from a lot of the decisions it makes as an orgainization, and instead trusts the people in its management to do the right thing, without following through on what that is. I have a hard time imagining them getting pissed off about paying royalties to Neil Young
So I think it is more a case of negligence than 'hypocrisy'--although it's not like negligence is a good thing either.
I would imagine if you asked one of the guys why such and such song was left off of a live concert release they wouldn't know what you were talking about. I could be wrong but I doubt 20 years in they are really part of day to day decisions. Probably goes like this:
Exec: Mike we want to put out a new mix of Ten and make it a big package. Mike: Cool. Can you make me louder in the mix? Exec: Sure Mike: Ok gotta go see ya.
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