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A Brazilian archbishop says all those who helped a child rape victim secure an abortion are to be excommunicated from the Catholic Church.
The girl, aged nine, who lives in the north-eastern state of Pernambuco, became pregnant with twins.
It is alleged that she had been sexually assaulted over a number of years by her stepfather.
The excommunication applies to the child's mother and the doctors involved in the procedure.
The pregnancy was terminated on Wednesday.
Abortion is only permitted in Brazil in cases of rape and where the mother's life is at risk and doctors say the girl's case met both these conditions.
Police believe that the girl at the centre of the case had been sexually abused by her step-father since she was six years old.
The fact that she was pregnant with twins was only discovered after she was taken to hospital in Pernambuco complaining of stomach pains.
Her stepfather was arrested last week, allegedly as he tried to escape to another region of the country.
He is also suspected of abusing the girl's physically handicapped older sister who is now 14.
Intervention bid
The Catholic Church tried to intervene to prevent the abortion going ahead but the procedure was carried out on Wednesday.
Now a Church spokesman says all those involved, including the child's mother and the doctors, are to be excommunicated.
The Archbishop of Olinda and Recife, Jose Cardoso Sobrinho, told Brazil's TV Globo that the law of God was above any human law.
He said the excommunication would not apply to the child because of her age, but would affect all those who ensured the abortion was carried out.
However, doctors at the hospital said they had to take account of the welfare of the girl, and that she was so small that her uterus did not have the ability to contain one child let alone two.
While the action of the Church in opposing an abortion for a young rape victim is not unprecedented, it has attracted criticism from women's rights groups in Brazil.
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My state.
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punkdavid wrote:
I thought our religious wackos were bad. Kudos to Brazil.
Its basically the catholic stance anywhere in the world.
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is there a news story with that update, 'bain?
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Brazil president blasts bishop in rape case
RIO DE JANEIRO: Brazil's president on Friday sharply criticized a Roman Catholic archbishop for declaring that those involved in an abortion on a 9-year-old rape victim were excommunicated.
President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva said that as a Catholic, he "profoundly laments" the archbishop's comments.
Silva said that doctors saved the girl's life by performing the abortion. The 80-pound (36-kilogram) child was carrying twins following an alleged rape by her stepfather.
Archbishop Jose Cardoso Sobrinho said Thursday that the mother and doctors of the girl were excommunicated because of the abortion.
The comments apparently were meant to underscore the Vatican's tough line on abortion: Under church law, excommunication is automatic for faithful who have, perform or help procure an abortion.
Abortion is generally illegal in Brazil, but is allowed in cases of rape, if the woman's life is in danger or if the fetus has no chance of survival.
ps: the stepfather was raping another girl also, she has mental problems
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The perpetrator “stepfather” confessed to raping his stepdaughter and is in jail. He is 51. The nine-year-old girl whose life he has been doggedly trying to destroy weighs 80 pounds
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When asked if he would excommunicate Jailton José da Silva, the stepfather/rapist who got the girl pregnant, archbishop José Cardoso Sobrinho told reporters: "He commited a hedious crime, but he isn't included in the excommunication. There are so many other serious sins. More serious than this is abortion, eliminating a life."
i have no words right now, but check some of the posts here:
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psychobain wrote:
When asked if he would excommunicate Jailton José da Silva, the stepfather/rapist who got the girl pregnant, archbishop José Cardoso Sobrinho told reporters: "He commited a hedious crime, but he isn't included in the excommunication. There are so many other serious sins. More serious than this is abortion, eliminating a life."
i have no words right now, but check some of the posts here:
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corduroy_blazer wrote:
psychobain wrote:
When asked if he would excommunicate Jailton José da Silva, the stepfather/rapist who got the girl pregnant, archbishop José Cardoso Sobrinho told reporters: "He commited a hedious crime, but he isn't included in the excommunication. There are so many other serious sins. More serious than this is abortion, eliminating a life."
i have no words right now, but check some of the posts here:
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I was questioning my faith before, and now I'm questioning the hierarchy. The bricks keep falling down, one by one. This is absolutely disgusting. inconsistency upon inconsistency. I understand this has happened for millennia, but it's like I'm finally hearing it.
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washing machine wrote:
I was questioning my faith before, and now I'm questioning the hierarchy. The bricks keep falling down, one by one. This is absolutely disgusting. inconsistency upon inconsistency. I understand this has happened for millennia, but it's like I'm finally hearing it.
well, actually, are there any inconsistencies here? i mean, abortion is abortion is abortion. it's wrong across the board, no?
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