Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 3:09 pm Posts: 10839 Location: metro west, mass Gender: Male
Searched and couldn't find anything dedicated to this important topic. Usually, I can't stand Roland Martin, but I'm glad he bringing this issue back under the light.
Obama, Dems wrong to kill school vouchers
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(CNN) -- When President Obama signs the $410 billion omnibus spending bill, there will be shouts of joy from both sides as Republicans and Democrats get their cherished earmarks.
Yet tucked into that bill is an amendment pushed by the president's former colleague in the Senate, Illinois Democrat Dick Durbin, who used his influence to essentially kill the District of Columbia school vouchers program.
Oh sure, it will be portrayed that the Democrats aren't killing the program, but the initiative calls for no new students to be allowed entry, unless approved by Congress and the District of Columbia City Council.
And considering that the teachers union has such a death grip on both Democratic-controlled institutions, you can forget about that happening.
Democrats say they believe in school choice, but they don't fully accept the gamut of choices. They will happily tout charter schools, also opposed by the national teachers unions, but stop at vouchers.
Why? Because Republicans have consistently advocated for vouchers, and Democrats have convinced themselves that vouchers will somehow destroy the public school infrastructure.
Now, some believe the Obama administration is sending mixed signals because Education Secretary Arne Duncan has said he doesn't want to see kids thrown out of Washington schools who are already in the existing voucher program. Fine. But the reality is that after this year, no new kids will be allowed to enroll in the program, and that folks, is killing the program.
Obama and his party have never been fans of vouchers. Why? They contend that vouchers would hurt the public school system. Vouchers allow parents who can't afford private school to remove their children from public schools in order to get a better education. Well, isn't that what the president and those in his party do themselves by sending their children to private school? Only they don't need the government's help.
The standard fallback position of Democrats and the Obama administration is that the Washington program only helps 1,700 children a year, and those who don't qualify are stuck in a sorry system, and they are largely poor and minority. They contend that since every student can't be helped by vouchers, none should be helped. ( )
So parents and children are supposed to sit tight and wait on the promised reform to trickle down from Washington to the local school systems, and then all will be well?
To me, that's sort of like saying that historically African-Americans are likely to have high rates of diabetes and hypertension, so instead of launching a program to save some from developing the disease, let's wait for a comprehensive plan where all can be saved at one time.
Sorry, folks. I believe you save as many as you can now, and continue to save the rest later. This shouldn't be an either/or proposition, but an and/both situation.
The other fundamental problem here is that we have a bunch of politicians deciding what's best for education over the objections of actual educators!
For instance, Democrats have had high praise for the superintendent of schools in Washington, Michelle Rhee.
Just one problem: she supports vouchers.
"I don't think vouchers are going to solve all the ills of public education, but parents who are zoned to schools that are failing kids should have options to do better by their kids," she told The New York Times. (Does she think schools are failing kids purposely?)
So if Rhee backs them, why not give her the vote of confidence to continue the program while she tries to fix the ailing school system?
The education reform outlined by President Obama on Tuesday is necessary. But we are a long way from seeing the kind of systemic changes that will fix our public schools. His plan goes far on personal and parental responsibility, yet relies on states to enact their own measures of change, and with 50 different state school plans, we know that is a disaster waiting to happen.
I would have more confidence if President Obama and members of Congress truly walked the walk and sent their kids to public schools.If they have so much faith in them turning around with reform, entrust their own children to public education. That's the kind of confidence our system needs. If it's good enough for yours, then surely it's good enough for mine.
But preaching to the rest of us about the virtues of a public education, then sending your own children to private school and denying the use of vouchers so others can do the same, is frankly hypocritical.
I know the value of a public education, and went to such institutions for elementary, middle, high school and college. Yet looking at the sorry state public schools are in now, maybe seeing kids leave in droves via vouchers will force school administrators and teachers to stop thinking they have all the answers and allow for innovation and full accountability, from the classroom to the boardroom.
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:47 pm Posts: 9282 Location: Atlanta Gender: Male
It's not about republicans really at all other than just being against it because they are for it. Democrats oppose vouchers because the teachers unions who elect them oppose vouchers, because it would lessen thier control over the process and or education system. Now if the private schools are also Union controlled... I think you would see less resistance.
The real sticking point politically is always power.
The thing is though sending a kid to a "better" school might challenge them more in the classroom but if the parent is mostly disinterested or just pawns thier responsibilities off on the next school as glorified day care... vouchers aren't really going to matter it will just bring the performance numbers of the private schools down too.
Like almost everything else in our society this has so many layers of bullshit attached. It's not really about education it's about power, control, influence how someone can use it for advancement.
People who have more money than the average person generally take advantage of the best quality of education possible for thier children because they see the value in it Democrats included. Hell why do we spend most of the middle grades in public school worrying about self esteem while the rest of the world kicks our asses in math and science? Because public school has become more day care than education. (This is not the fault of teachers it's the fault of draconian government control in the form of standardized virtually everything in an environment that is far from standard) When they get to the end of the 12th grade or even college.....they become dependant for life....and a voter that is dependant on the government. That's good for the person that can pander for that vote no matter what gang they claim left or right.
(naturally this is a gross generalization but there really is no incentive for excellence in public schools at least to a politician. The biggest hypocracy is to call what they do a public service)
The other fundamental problem here is that we have a bunch of politicians deciding what's best for education over the objections of actual educators!
For instance, Democrats have had high praise for the superintendent of schools in Washington, Michelle Rhee.
Just one problem: she supports vouchers.
I've never understood why articles like this always refer to superintendents, who frequently have little or no education experience (they usually come from a business background, which is good since that's pretty much where there work will be), as educators. Michelle Rhee is among the 50% of new teachers who leave the classroom within the first five years of their career...not someone with a lot of education experience. I suppose it serves the author's argument to present her as such, though.
Regardless of how I feel on the matter (which is indifferent, to be honest), I think this is one education topic that has become widespread debate, has been fairly heavily media-saturated, and yet only one side is generally presented. So, of course, when one side of an issue goes effectively unpresented, the result is a lot of people thinking and debating it based almost exclusively on that one side's talking points.
I would say anybody who is interested, or opposed, to voucher systems would do well to look into the following, as they contain relevant and generally ignored points:
I think the debate on this topic far outstrips the knowledge base...probably as far as public economics debates do. Might as well know what you're talking about while you're at it.
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