Post subject: Re: 50% Of Americans 2 Paychecks Away From....
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:44 am
Former PJ Drummer
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:51 am Posts: 17078 Location: TX
Yeah, I understand, that sentence is hard to read... I was trying to think of the right word to use and couldn't do it, that sentence was the best I could come up with. It will be easier if I elaborate, so here was my point:
The decision to have kids is easily as important of a financial decision as buying a house. I don't subscribe to the notion that people can have kids first and ask questions later, as if having kids is ok when you can't support them. Too often in this country we look at young people who have kids and we don't even give it a second thought, as if responsibility does not apply to that situation. Well, we criticize someone for buying a house or a car they can't afford, why is the decision to have children above reproach?
If you make a decision to wait to have children, that is part of being financially responsible. The way you asked SD that question implied, to me at least, that when people have children it is not their fault if they are unprepared financially. Like, SD has no kids, so there is a good reason for him to be prepared, but if he had kids, he would somehow have more of an excuse to not be prepared?
I just have a real problem with the way this country deals with having kids. I'm not convinced reproduction is a human right. I prefer to treat it more as a privilege, just like owning a house or a fancy car is a privilege. If you can't take care of yourself, you shouldn't have the right to have children.
Post subject: Re: 50% Of Americans 2 Paychecks Away From....
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:27 am
Reissued
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 20059 Gender: Male
Buffalohed wrote:
Yeah, I understand, that sentence is hard to read... I was trying to think of the right word to use and couldn't do it, that sentence was the best I could come up with. It will be easier if I elaborate, so here was my point:
The decision to have kids is easily as important of a financial decision as buying a house. I don't subscribe to the notion that people can have kids first and ask questions later, as if having kids is ok when you can't support them. Too often in this country we look at young people who have kids and we don't even give it a second thought, as if responsibility does not apply to that situation. Well, we criticize someone for buying a house or a car they can't afford, why is the decision to have children above reproach?
If you make a decision to wait to have children, that is part of being financially responsible. The way you asked SD that question implied, to me at least, that when people have children it is not their fault if they are unprepared financially. Like, SD has no kids, so there is a good reason for him to be prepared, but if he had kids, he would somehow have more of an excuse to not be prepared?
I just have a real problem with the way this country deals with having kids. I'm not convinced reproduction is a human right. I prefer to treat it more as a privilege, just like owning a house or a fancy car is a privilege. If you can't take care of yourself, you shouldn't have the right to have children.
i agree with the responsibility part, i disagree with the last paragraph as it screams of totalitarianism. i'll elaborate on what i meant tomorrow, but i was in no way giving people a free pass to have kids and be irresponsible with their money or downplaying the significance of the issue on every level.
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Post subject: Re: 50% Of Americans 2 Paychecks Away From....
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:57 am
Temporary Secretary
Joined: Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:51 am Posts: 43609 Location: My city smells like Cheerios Gender: Male
Buffalohed wrote:
Yeah, I understand, that sentence is hard to read... I was trying to think of the right word to use and couldn't do it, that sentence was the best I could come up with. It will be easier if I elaborate, so here was my point:
The decision to have kids is easily as important of a financial decision as buying a house. I don't subscribe to the notion that people can have kids first and ask questions later, as if having kids is ok when you can't support them. Too often in this country we look at young people who have kids and we don't even give it a second thought, as if responsibility does not apply to that situation. Well, we criticize someone for buying a house or a car they can't afford, why is the decision to have children above reproach?
If you make a decision to wait to have children, that is part of being financially responsible. The way you asked SD that question implied, to me at least, that when people have children it is not their fault if they are unprepared financially. Like, SD has no kids, so there is a good reason for him to be prepared, but if he had kids, he would somehow have more of an excuse to not be prepared?
I just have a real problem with the way this country deals with having kids. I'm not convinced reproduction is a human right. I prefer to treat it more as a privilege, just like owning a house or a fancy car is a privilege. If you can't take care of yourself, you shouldn't have the right to have children.
not everyone plans to have kids. this entire spiel is based on the assumption that only people who plan for kids have kids or they are just teens having kids.
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Post subject: Re: 50% Of Americans 2 Paychecks Away From....
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:13 pm
too drunk to moderate properly
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:19 pm Posts: 39068 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA Gender: Male
I get paid monthly, so that might not be so bad.
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