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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:47 am 
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Maryland Mom Pleads Guilty to Cult Starvation of 1-Year-Old

BALTIMORE — A former religious cult member pleaded guilty Monday to starving her 1-year-old son to death after making an unusual deal with prosecutors: If the child is resurrected, her plea will be withdrawn.


Ria Ramkissoon, 22, also agreed to testify against four other members of the now-defunct religious group known as 1 Mind Ministries. All four are charged with first-degree murder in the death of Javon Thompson.

According to a statement of facts, the cult members stopped feeding the boy when he refused to say "Amen" after a meal. After Javon died, Ramkissoon sat next to his decomposing body and prayed for his resurrection.

Ramkissoon's attorney, Steven D. Silverman, said Ramkissoon believes the resurrection will occur. She agreed to plead guilty only after prosecutors said they would drop the charges if the child comes back to life, Silverman said.

"This is something that she absolutely insisted upon, and this is indicative of the fact that she is still brainwashed, still a victim of this cult," he said. "Until she's deprogrammed, she's not going to think any differently."

Baltimore Circuit Judge Timothy J. Doory assured Ramkissoon that the plea would indeed be withdrawn if the child is resurrected.

Ramkissoon pleaded guilty to one count of child abuse resulting in death. She will remain in custody until she testifies against her co-defendants and will receive a suspended 20-year sentence and serve five years probation. Sentencing was scheduled for Aug. 11. By then, Ramkissoon would have spent about a year behind bars.

As part of her probation, Ramkissoon must submit to treatment, including sessions with an expert on cult behavior.

The maximum sentence for child abuse resulting in death is 30 years, and defendants typically receive between 12 and 20 years, according to Maryland sentencing guidelines.

Ramkissoon will fare much better under the plea deal than if she had pursued an insanity defense, Silverman said. A court psychiatrist found that she was both competent to stand trial and could have been held criminally responsible for Javon's death because she knew the difference between right and wrong.

Silverman could have challenged that finding, and he said prosecutors told him they wouldn't have stood in his way. In a letter to Silverman that outlined the terms of the plea deal, prosecutors said the finding of criminal responsibility was "somewhat surprising."

If Ramkissoon had been found not criminally responsible in court, she would have been committed indefinitely to a state mental hospital. By pleading guilty, she will serve little jail time and still get the treatment she needs, Silverman said.

Ramkissoon's mother and stepfather and Javon's paternal grandmother wept in court as prosecutors described the boy's death. The petite Ramkissoon, a native of Trinidad, was calm, answering the judge's questions in a barely audible voice.

When asked her address, she gave the location of the city jail. Asked later whether she had any other place she called home, she said, "No."

Ramkissoon's mother, Seeta Khadan-Newton, said the cult manipulated her daughter into disowning her family.

"We are behind her now. We are in the past," Khadan-Newton said.

Geraldine Ridgley, Javon's paternal grandmother, said Ramkissoon deserves a stiffer punishment.

The boy's father, Robert Thompson, was not in court Monday. Ridgley said he was ill. Thompson was in jail when Javon was born.

After the boy died, the cult members left his body inside the apartment where they lived until it began to decompose, according to police documents and the statement of facts. In early 2007, they stuffed the body inside a suitcase and filled it with mothballs and fabric softener sheets to mask the odor.

The cult members relocated to Philadelphia, where they befriended an elderly man and stored the suitcase in a shed behind his home. It remained there for more than a year before police found it, the documents say.

The judge also ordered the four co-defendants to appear before another judge Tuesday to receive a new trial date. Alleged cult leader Queen Antoinette and ex-members Trevia Williams and Marcus A. Cobbs are being held without bail. Steven L. Bynum is free on his own recognizance.

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I don't know, sounds like she's got an ace up her sleeve.

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:haha:

just at the tagline, didnt read the rest, fucked up, but still, hilarious plea.

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According to a statement of facts, the cult members stopped feeding the boy when he refused to say "Amen" after a meal. After Javon died, Ramkissoon sat next to his decomposing body and prayed for his resurrection.

:shake: a 1-year old cannot even talk you fucktards!

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Fuck cultists. They should all make like those Hale Bop retards and kill themselves.

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it was probably for the best

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it was probably for the best

solve unemployment and homelessness before it starts

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PeopleMyAge wrote:
rafa_garcia18 wrote:
it was probably for the best

solve unemployment and homelessness before it starts


not to mention, get rid of future cultists!

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rafa_garcia18 wrote:
PeopleMyAge wrote:
rafa_garcia18 wrote:
it was probably for the best

solve unemployment and homelessness before it starts


not to mention, get rid of future cultists!

oh, that too :oops:

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So nonviolent drug offenders go to jail, and people who starve their children to death don't. OK.

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Baltimore Circuit Judge Timothy J. Doory assured Ramkissoon that the plea would indeed be withdrawn if the child is resurrected.


FTW

How can they determine objectively if the kid is resurrected?

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Baltimore Circuit Judge Timothy J. Doory assured Ramkissoon that the plea would indeed be withdrawn if the child is resurrected.


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How can they determine objectively if the kid is resurrected?

i suppose they can, you know, keep an eye on the grave and, you know, look around to see if the kid's walking around.

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Baltimore Circuit Judge Timothy J. Doory assured Ramkissoon that the plea would indeed be withdrawn if the child is resurrected.


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How can they determine objectively if the kid is resurrected?

i suppose they can, you know, keep an eye on the grave and, you know, look around to see if the kid's walking around.


Oh, good point. I was thinking reincarnated.

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given2trade wrote:
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Baltimore Circuit Judge Timothy J. Doory assured Ramkissoon that the plea would indeed be withdrawn if the child is resurrected.


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How can they determine objectively if the kid is resurrected?

i suppose they can, you know, keep an eye on the grave and, you know, look around to see if the kid's walking around.


Oh, good point. I was thinking reincarnated.
Should reincarnation reduce her sentence?


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tyler wrote:
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given2trade wrote:
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Baltimore Circuit Judge Timothy J. Doory assured Ramkissoon that the plea would indeed be withdrawn if the child is resurrected.


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How can they determine objectively if the kid is resurrected?

i suppose they can, you know, keep an eye on the grave and, you know, look around to see if the kid's walking around.


Oh, good point. I was thinking reincarnated.
Should reincarnation reduce her sentence?


I dunno. If he is reincarnated into a better family it was a net positive, amirite?

However, if he is reincarnated into a pig, probably a net neutral.

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tyler wrote:
given2trade wrote:
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given2trade wrote:
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Baltimore Circuit Judge Timothy J. Doory assured Ramkissoon that the plea would indeed be withdrawn if the child is resurrected.


FTW

How can they determine objectively if the kid is resurrected?

i suppose they can, you know, keep an eye on the grave and, you know, look around to see if the kid's walking around.


Oh, good point. I was thinking reincarnated.
Should reincarnation reduce her sentence?

they're not a buddhist cult..they don't believe in such silly mumbo jumbo

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