Who are the big WRs coming out in this draft besides Crabtree, Maclin and Dez Briscoe?

Darrius Heyward Bey, Hakeem Nicks, Brian Robiskie.

Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech - 6'3- 214
Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State - 6'1- 195
Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri - 6'1- 200
Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland - 6'3- 206
Percy Harvin, WR, Florida - 5'11- 195
Louis Murphy, WR, Florida - 6'2- 205
Derrick Williams, WR, Penn State - 6'0- 194
Brian Robiskie, WR, Ohio State - 6'3- 199
Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers - 6'4- 215
Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina - 6'2- 210
Mohamed Massaquoi, WR, Georgia - 6'2- 200
Austin Collie, WR, BYU - 6'1- 200
Quan Cosby, WR, Texas - 5'9- 200
Greg Carr, WR, Florida State - 6'6- 214
Ramses Barden, WR, Cal Poly - 6'6- 227

No love for Quan Cosby, Longhorn fans?

He's no Roy Williams.

I like him, Good Route Runner, Seems intelligent in addition to football smarts and good hands. I have no idea what his speed quotient is, but he looks good to me.

Robiskie is one of my favorites in this draft though after round 1, his dad is a fantastic coach and he's a solid playmaker who will be in the right place at the right time.

Tiquan Underwood has some impressive speed from Rutgers too in addition to Kenny Britt. I tihnk it was Underwood that was thier home run guy.

Oh shiiiiiii....

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/f ... index.html

2009 NFL Preseason Schedule

WEEK 3 -- AUGUST 27-31

Miami at Tampa Bay (FOX, 8/27)
New England at Washington (CBS, 8/28)
San Diego at Atlanta (CBS, 8/29)
Chicago at Denver (NBC, 8/30)
Minnesota at Houston (ESPN, 8/31)
Baltimore at Carolina
Buffalo at Pittsburgh
Green Bay at Arizona
Indianapolis at Detroit
Jacksonville at Philadelphia
New Orleans at Oakland
NY Jets at NY Giants
St. Louis at Cincinnati
San Francisco at Dallas
Seattle at Kansas City
Tennessee at Cleveland

Peter King is clearly not on Cutler's side.

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Cutler might regret Denver exile

Jay Cutler has three people to blame for his trade from the most talented young offensive team in football to one of the least:

1. Jay Cutler.

2. Jay Cutler.

3. Jay Cutler.

Lots of great players in NFL history have been traded, including lots of great quarterbacks -- Steve Young, Fran Tarkenton, John Unitas, Bobby Layne. Lots of quarterbacks have been subjects of trade rumors, including the one and only John Elway, who preceded Cutler as the face of the Broncos; Dan Reeves almost sent Elway to the Redskins midway through his career. And Elway was ticked, but he got over it. Cutler was ticked when the Broncos tried and failed to acquire Matt Cassel Feb. 26, and for some reason -- ego, pride, immaturity, or maybe all of the above -- he couldn't get over it.

I laughed when I read Cutler's quotes to Jay Glazer Wednesday night, the ones about him not wanting to be traded. Kid, either you or your agent asked to be traded after Mike Shanahan and offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates left the organization, and your agent asked for a trade again on March 14. Come on. You can only cry wolf so many times before you finally get called on it.

The other thing that happened here is that Denver owner Pat Bowlen grabbed this process by the horns and made the trade to Chicago happen. I will believe for a long time that Josh McDaniels wanted to take a passive approach here and let some rattled nerves calm down; and at some point before the draft, he'd try to make peace with Cutler. That's the strong impression he left me with a week ago at the league meetings. But when Cutler continued to duck the Broncos, Bowlen had enough. "You do not mess with Pat Bowlen, and you definitely do not ignore him,'' a man who knows Bowlen well told me this week. Cutler ignored him. That lit the fuse for the stunning trade to the Bears.

The Broncos will miss Cutler, because they have the best young offensive nucleus in football. Tackles Ryan Clady and Ryan Harris will both go to multiple Pro Bowls. Brandon Marshall and Eddie Royal are the best receivers in tandem 26 or younger in football right now. Last year, they, and Cutler, combined to form the number two offense in football, averaging 396 yards per game. Chicago averaged exactly 100 yards less, and was 26th in total offense. They have two talented young offensive weapons on the exterior --wideout/returner Devin Hester (if he ever gets to be a full-time receiver) and tackle Chris Williams, Cutler's former Vanderbilt teammate, at left tackle. But Williams is coming off a back injury, so we don't know how good he'll be.

It's a massive step down. Maybe Cutler will make the Bears a lot better. He certainly should. And the Broncos will take a step back, at least until McDaniels develops a quarterback in his own image.

The saddest thing here? Cutler could have been a truly great player in McDaniels' offense. He may be great with the Bears; he certainly has the talent to be. But the Denver attack was tailor-made for Cutler's brains and ability to throw the deep ball. Whatever he says now, I know he'll always wonder how great he could have been in that offense, with that bright young coach -- whether he liked McDaniels or not.

You hit the nail on the head. 17-20 overall but in games that the Broncos defense allowed 21 points or less his record is 13-1 and the one loss was the game in '07 where Favre threw an 82 yard TD pass on the first play of OT. Also, I know the Broncos defense has been really bad for the past few seasons but allowing more than 21 points in 24 of your last 37 games is mind-blowing.

Obviously I love the guy but I don't see him being drafted very high. I think he could be very good since he's so sure-handed, but the height isn't there and he doesn't have the burner speed of a Steve Smith. We'll see though, it would be awesome to see him land on a good team and make an impact.

i think the trade is good for both teams. orton isnt nearly as good as cutler, but he's very capable of winning games as long as he doesnt have to do it by himself. hopefully buckhalter becomes a probowler this year. add all the picks, and i think everyone wins.

i'm a bit late to this game, but denver freaking raped chicago. the difference between orton and cutler is NOT worth two first rounders and a third rounder, especially in the salary cap era.

if denver selects the right defenders in april, they'll win nine or ten games this year. well done.

Keep in mind we're talking about CHICAGO first rounders here.... They were going to just use them for a couple of months and then throw them away anyway.

I totally agree they overpaid substantially, especially considering they lost the 3rd rounder AND a starting QB too... but I think they feel like they have the QB situation fixed for the next 10 years anyway.

Also LB Hunter Hillenmeyer. Cutler had said he wanted to come to the Bears since they were his childhood team.

This is great. Finally a franchise QB! How often does a Pro-Bowl QB @ 25 become available? How can you really overpay for that?

So they gave up 2 1sts and 3rd and Orton.

One 1st rounder can be thought of as Cutler (or one they would be drafting). They got a free 3rd rounder from the Berrian loss so that covers the 3rd rounder. So basically they gave up a 1st and Orton - who was a bottom 1/4 QB and basically a game manager. He may do better and I wish him well, but he's still what he is

Besides what is the going rate on first-rounders? 50% success? Less even for QB's.

Getting a younger Probowl QB is near impossible - and to do it costing basically a 1st rounder and a below average QB is great! And they added a starting left tackle too - so they can groom Williams for it for when Pace retires. Great day to be a Bears fan IMHO

Not to mention that Cutler's salary was weighted heavily in his first 3 years. The amount of money they would of had to shell out for the first rounders is significantly higher than Cutler's current salary. It was a great trade for the Bears, and Denver got what they wanted.

Yep and Orton was what 21-12, so obviously he is a much better QB.

Nevermind that Cutler had an atrocious defense. Here's a good stat "Although Cutler is 17-20 as a starter, he's been victimized by dismal defenses in Denver, and he was an impressive 13-1 when the Broncos held opponents to 21 points or fewer." There Bears defense may not be great but they're much better than Denver's and should be mediocre.

There are 21 other starters out there, ya know, who impact the game.

Pace can't groom anyone from the training room. He's gotten hurt each of the last 3 years. Cutler's going to be on his ass a lot in Chicago, something he didn't have to worry about in Denver, despite dropping back to pass 40+ times most games.

Orton may not be great, but he's going to have a hell of a lot more weapons here and an offensive line that will keep him clean. McDaniels thinks he can make anyone great, so he better do it.

Actually he can from the training room. He's going to be a HOF one day and you don't do that by just being naturally gifted. You really ahve to work your craft and know technique and nuances and that can be passed on.

It sure will be trial by fire with Williams then when he has to line up against guys like Jared Allen and Kampman a few times a year when Pace goes out. St. Louis allowed a ton of sacks last year even with Pace in there, so I'm not sure what impact he even has anymore.

*puts on economist hat*

but what would you have gotten with those two firsts? you would have picked two young players at positions of need. and you would have had those players under contract, at less than the market rate, for at least five years (maybe six). similar story with the third rounder (though you'd only have him under contract for four years). so you're trading away a minimum fourteen years of performance at below-market rates at positions of need for the difference between what you got from orton and what you expect to get from cutler (remember, he had an offensive genius for a head coach, brandon marshall, eddie royal, etc). you're trading flexibility and the ability to add to the roster that comes with having quality players playing at below-market salaries.

and what's the opportunity cost of those three players that the bears won't be getting? the spots that those players would have occupied must still be filled. sacrificing what could be top-end, first-round talent comes with a price; namely, you're filling their spots with lower-round, less-talented players. OR, if the organization decides they aren't comfortable taking that path, they can fill the void with free agents. but free agents are significantly more expensive than entry-level players. and expensive contracts further constrain what can be spent elsewhere and on additional players/positions. further, they also constrain the ability to retain top-end talent for the long-term (i'm looking at you, matt forte).

so the addition of cutler, who only marginally increases productivity at the QB position, comes at the cost of quality and depth elsewhere on the roster and salary cap flexibility. i certainly acknowledge that a competent quarterback is worth more than, say, a competent weakside linebacker (or more accurately, an incompetent QB negatively impacts a team's performance more than an incompetent weakside linebacker). but i would suggest that perhaps the bears' best course would have been to spend money on scouting to increase their effectiveness in the draft, not overpay for a guy with a losing record a strong arm.

bad deal.