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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:03 am 
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Brendan O'Brien produced the bands best work imo, and I'm really looking forward to their next album which again will be produced by the man.

I would like to start a special thread on the man, is he the bands George Martin?
What is your favorite production of his? For one, I think the production on Vitalogy and No Code is simply amazing.

Please discuss everything related to Brendan O'Brien in this thread!!


Brendan PJ discography:

Producer:
-Vs
-Vitalogy
-Mirrorball
-No Code
-Yield
-Love Reign O'me (fanclub 06)

Mixing:
-Sonic Reducer (fanclub 92)
-Binaural
-Riot Act
-Ten Redux
-Shame (Brad)
-Interiors (Brad)

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It's not my favourite album, but I've always felt Yield sounded perfect. Flawless.


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It is hard to say which album sounds better. The power and clarity of Vs. is amazing. I love the warmth of sound, from instruments and vocals, on a song like Daughter and the all encompassing sound of RVM.

Yield sounds crisp and perfect but my favorite production is No Code. There seem to be so many layers to sound just like there is to the music.

Evil Empire, STP's Purple and Tiny Music are also favorites of mine as far as production goes. He gets the best out of the bands he produces.

Also, it seems that when Brenden produces a record, he captures the band FULLY. Where they are, what they are trying to convey. That lack of completeness is felt on the last 3 PJ albums. When he produces you get a color in your head that goes with the feeling the record elicits.

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Think of how great those albums all sound. Now recall that quote in that recent Rolling Stone article about the new record. To paraphrase it, in the past, the band hadn't listened to his musical ideas, but this time they might. It seems like its a safe bet that this upcoming album will sound great with Brendan's production, but more importantly, how will his imput alter the actual songwriting?

Bottom line, if they could collectively achieve anything close to what they produced from 1994 to 1998 that would rule.

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Some corrections/additions: Brendan also mixed Riot Act, but you may not consider that their best work. Also, it was Brett Eliason who produced Merkin Ball, not Brendan.

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Yield sounds crisp and perfect but my favorite production is No Code. There seem to be so many layers to sound just like there is to the music.

Also, it seems that when Brenden produces a record, he captures the band FULLY. Where they are, what they are trying to convey. That lack of completeness is felt on the last 3 PJ albums. When he produces you get a color in your head that goes with the feeling the record elicits.


Could not have agreed more on both statements. The production on NC is truly an amazing experience, each song sounds totally different and yet the whole record sounds so cohesive. Something that Adam Kasper could not achieve, both his records sounds more like collections of 'great' songs.


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Think of how great those albums all sound. Now recall that quote in that recent Rolling Stone article about the new record. To paraphrase it, in the past, the band hadn't listened to his musical ideas, but this time they might. It seems like its a safe bet that this upcoming album will sound great with Brendan's production, but more importantly, how will his imput alter the actual songwriting?.


Yeah, that's what got me excited too. But it could also be a bad thing. I'm not really a fan of his post 2000 production work. Except for the ' digitall wall of sound' approach that the latest Springsteen got but I don't see that will work for PJ.

I also believe that the band and brendan are pretty close. They've toured together (neil jam tour) and VS. was the first hit 'platinum' record he produced (??). So hopefully he really gives a 110%. For a guy that really wants to stay behind the scenes (Ive seen a incubus DVD where they blurred his face) he did alot of press for the Ten Redux, I've read quotes and I've seen his face on a TV promo. Plus, if he is a fan of the band he probably knows why he likes them so much and will try to capture that on the record.

Oh yeah, I also hope that he's better at linking the best of Matt Cameron to the best of the band. I believe Matt is by far the best live drummer this band has ever had but sometimes I have this feeling that they are not using him the best way in the studio.

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i love most of his work with pearl jam. The strength and clarity of vs, the warmth of yield (not my favorite collection of songs but wonderfully produced) and the way Vitalogy just seethes. But I've never much cared for the production on No Code. It all sounds kind of distant and impersonal to me

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joostone wrote:
Hatfield wrote:
Yield sounds crisp and perfect but my favorite production is No Code. There seem to be so many layers to sound just like there is to the music.

Also, it seems that when Brenden produces a record, he captures the band FULLY. Where they are, what they are trying to convey. That lack of completeness is felt on the last 3 PJ albums. When he produces you get a color in your head that goes with the feeling the record elicits.


Could not have agreed more on both statements. The production on NC is truly an amazing experience, each song sounds totally different and yet the whole record sounds so cohesive. Something that Adam Kasper could not achieve, both his records sounds more like collections of 'great' songs.


Riot Actor 25 wrote:
Think of how great those albums all sound. Now recall that quote in that recent Rolling Stone article about the new record. To paraphrase it, in the past, the band hadn't listened to his musical ideas, but this time they might. It seems like its a safe bet that this upcoming album will sound great with Brendan's production, but more importantly, how will his imput alter the actual songwriting?.


Yeah, that's what got me excited too. But it could also be a bad thing. I'm not really a fan of his post 2000 production work. Except for the ' digitall wall of sound' approach that the latest Springsteen got but I don't see that will work for PJ.

I also believe that the band and brendan are pretty close. They've toured together (neil jam tour) and VS. was the first hit 'platinum' record he produced (??). So hopefully he really gives a 110%. For a guy that really wants to stay behind the scenes (Ive seen a incubus DVD where they blurred his face) he did alot of press for the Ten Redux, I've read quotes and I've seen his face on a TV promo. Plus, if he is a fan of the band he probably knows why he likes them so much and will try to capture that on the record.

Oh yeah, I also hope that he's better at linking the best of Matt Cameron to the best of the band. I believe Matt is by far the best live drummer this band has ever had but sometimes I have this feeling that they are not using him the best way in the studio.


Was Brendan O'Brien the one who played piano on Love Reign O'er Me for that recent Who tribute? I know it wasn't Boom.

I agree that he needs to really nail it with Matt Cameron. I don't think Adam Kaspar has done exceptionally well blending the drums and the rest of the group on the last few tries.

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Riot Actor 25 wrote:
joostone wrote:
Hatfield wrote:
Yield sounds crisp and perfect but my favorite production is No Code. There seem to be so many layers to sound just like there is to the music.

Also, it seems that when Brenden produces a record, he captures the band FULLY. Where they are, what they are trying to convey. That lack of completeness is felt on the last 3 PJ albums. When he produces you get a color in your head that goes with the feeling the record elicits.


Could not have agreed more on both statements. The production on NC is truly an amazing experience, each song sounds totally different and yet the whole record sounds so cohesive. Something that Adam Kasper could not achieve, both his records sounds more like collections of 'great' songs.


Riot Actor 25 wrote:
Think of how great those albums all sound. Now recall that quote in that recent Rolling Stone article about the new record. To paraphrase it, in the past, the band hadn't listened to his musical ideas, but this time they might. It seems like its a safe bet that this upcoming album will sound great with Brendan's production, but more importantly, how will his imput alter the actual songwriting?.


Yeah, that's what got me excited too. But it could also be a bad thing. I'm not really a fan of his post 2000 production work. Except for the ' digitall wall of sound' approach that the latest Springsteen got but I don't see that will work for PJ.

I also believe that the band and brendan are pretty close. They've toured together (neil jam tour) and VS. was the first hit 'platinum' record he produced (??). So hopefully he really gives a 110%. For a guy that really wants to stay behind the scenes (Ive seen a incubus DVD where they blurred his face) he did alot of press for the Ten Redux, I've read quotes and I've seen his face on a TV promo. Plus, if he is a fan of the band he probably knows why he likes them so much and will try to capture that on the record.

Oh yeah, I also hope that he's better at linking the best of Matt Cameron to the best of the band. I believe Matt is by far the best live drummer this band has ever had but sometimes I have this feeling that they are not using him the best way in the studio.


Was Brendan O'Brien the one who played piano on Love Reign O'er Me for that recent Who tribute? I know it wasn't Boom.


Yes. He also played on LROM on the recorded version.

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Doesn't he play keys for someone regularly?


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good thread.

i'm just excited for his return. vs-vitalogy-NC-yield are my favorite albums and its pretty obvious that he's a part of the reason why.

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Has BOB worked with Matt Cameron before on a Soundgarden record?


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iceagecoming wrote:
Has BOB worked with Matt Cameron before on a Soundgarden record?


I believe he did some mixing on Superunknown. He did not produced soundgarden stuff. But Adam Kasper did......


Another thing that could be interesting is that the band used a different approach for this record. Remember that they said that they jammed together at Jeff's place without eddie. This is a bottom up approach, music comes first and they slowly let it grow to a song. The topdown approach would be if eddie (or someone else) brings in a demo with riffs and some lyrics and they go from there. With that first approach there's more you can debate on and experiment on. That means that there is more space for Brendan to help experimenting. Hummm, interesting.

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He also produced this.


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theplatypus wrote:
He also produced this.


did you know that their lead singer has a really high IQ, i mean, like, genius high.

true story.

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EllisEamos wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
He also produced this.


did you know that their lead singer has a really high IQ, i mean, like, genius high.

true story.


You can really hear it in the lyrics.


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Doesn't he play keys for someone regularly?


He played the guitar solo in the Black Crowes version of Hard to Handle.

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He also produced this.



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iceagecoming wrote:
Has BOB worked with Matt Cameron before on a Soundgarden record?


He did the mixing on Superunknown. In fact, he was recommended to Soundgarden by Stone.

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