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 Post subject: Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:33 am 
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aka H.R. 1207

Regardless of political affiliation, I think this is something we can ALL agree on.
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According to its short title, the Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009 (H.R. 1207) amends Title 31 of the United States Code "to reform the manner in which the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System is audited by the Comptroller General of the United States and the manner in which such audits are reported". It strikes exceptions to the audit protocol in 31 U.S.C. § 714 for the Federal Reserve System, the central bank of the United States, and replaces an indefinite deadline with a deadline of December 2010. It also ensures the audit results are available to Congress. The audit would include the Fed's "discount window", its funding facilities, its open market operations, and its agreements with foreign bankers.

Proponents state that the Fed has never been audited by Congress since the Fed's creation in 1913. The Federal Reserve states that "the financial statements of the Federal Reserve Banks and the Board of Governors are audited annually by an independent outside auditor." Paul says that the present audit process exempts the Fed's "most crucial activities"

There are 110 sponsors as of 4/30/09. 25% of congress is already co-sponsoring this bill.






Wiki entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HR_1207
Keeping track of progress: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1207

This will be a powerhouse victory if this becomes law. I think this actually has a solid chance at passing. It could be our last shot for an opportunity to hold the Fed accountable for their actions. Any thoughts?

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 Post subject: Re: Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
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Doesn't matter. They're all part of the Zeitgeist.

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 Post subject: Re: Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
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I mean really, if you don't like the fed that's fine. But what would make anyone think giving politicians (who know next to nothing about economics in general, let alone monetary policy) a say in the matter would help things?

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 Post subject: Re: Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
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bart d. wrote:
I mean really, if you don't like the fed that's fine. But what would make anyone think giving politicians (who know next to nothing about economics in general, let alone monetary policy) a say in the matter would help things?


I can't believe people are dumb enough to even contemplate putting monetary policy directly in the hands of officials who get elected.

We still have democratic oversight in an indirect way - if the Fed goes bananas, heads will roll on account of pressure from the Executive and Legislature. But short of some kind of disaster, best to leave it to the technocrats.

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 Post subject: Re: Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
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But short of some kind of disaster, best to leave it to the technocrats.

spoken like a true lawyer.

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 Post subject: Re: Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
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Sunny, I'm assuming the "Paul" in your quote is Ron Paul. Yes?

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 Post subject: Re: Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
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The would be kinda like the "stress tests" I presume. Or, like shades suggested, giving politicians veto rights on monetary policy.

The only solution is to abolish the Fed or at least scale back its monopoly.

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 Post subject: Re: Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
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My only concern would be panic that might ensue from the information in the audits, either because the data is misinterpreted by pols or the public, or if it is understood all too well.

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 Post subject: Re: Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
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I bet Ron Paul just want more opportunities to "lecture" Bernanke :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
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I'm an economic dunce, but I don't see how being able to audit the Fed actually gives congress control over monetary policy. Maybe I don't know what the word audit means? It doesn't mean they get to decide anything, does it?

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 Post subject: Re: Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
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Buffalohed wrote:
I'm an economic dunce, but I don't see how being able to audit the Fed actually gives congress control over monetary policy. Maybe I don't know what the word audit means? It doesn't mean they get to decide anything, does it?


In a conservative scenario where they can't take any action on the audit, they'd still have the ability to present the results of said audit to the public in whatever light they wish, giving them immense leverage on the Fed.

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 Post subject: Re: Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
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Buffalohed wrote:
I'm an economic dunce, but I don't see how being able to audit the Fed actually gives congress control over monetary policy. Maybe I don't know what the word audit means? It doesn't mean they get to decide anything, does it?


In a conservative scenario where they can't take any action on the audit, they'd still have the ability to present the results of said audit to the public in whatever light they wish, giving them immense leverage on the Fed.

Since when does the Fed base their policy on what the public thinks? I dunno, seems like a poor excuse to not have audits to me. :?

Also, an uneducated public that can't read the results of the audit for themselves would be nothing new.

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Buffalohed wrote:
Since when does the Fed base their policy on what the public thinks?

Right now they don't. That's the point though. If Congress had the power to oversee everything the fed does, they would exert public pressure to force it to make politically popular decisions.
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I dunno, seems like a poor excuse to not have audits to me. :?

They do have audits now. They're just done by a private agency (presumably with at least a little more expertise on the matter than Congress) and they apparently don't include all aspects of the Fed's dealings.

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 Post subject: Re: Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
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I hope this passes. It might not do much in the short-term, but I feel its at least a step in the right direction. It's absurd that the Federal Reserve has gone on so long without any sort of meaningful oversight, so its about time that our elected officials are standing up to do something that I think a lot of Americans would support. I just hope Ron Paul and others are careful. Not to sound too cooky, but the last person who really stood up to the Federal Reserve was JFK...and we all know how that ended up.


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punkdavid wrote:
My only concern would be panic that might ensue from the information in the audits, either because the data is misinterpreted by pols or the public, or if it is understood all too well.

isn't this part of living in an open society?

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Buffalohed wrote:
Also, an uneducated public that can't balance their checkbooks for themselves would be nothing new.

FTFY.

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 Post subject: Re: Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
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punkdavid wrote:
My only concern would be panic that might ensue from the information in the audits, either because the data is misinterpreted by pols or the public, or if it is understood all too well.

isn't this part of living in an open society?

Yeah. In general, I'm all for openness and let the chips fall where they may. And honestly, I'm not against this idea (having spent a whole five minutes thinking about it so far). That was just teh first concern that popped into my mind. It could be important, or not.

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Pressing tons of money is a very populist third-worldy thing to do.

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 Post subject: Re: Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009
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Not to sound too cooky, but the last person who really stood up to the Federal Reserve was JFK...and we all know how that ended up.

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punkdavid wrote:
Yeah. In general, I'm all for openness and let the chips fall where they may. And honestly, I'm not against this idea (having spent a whole five minutes thinking about it so far). That was just the first concern that popped into my mind. It could be important, or not.


Just keep checking rudepundit and huffingtonpost. I'm sure they will be posting your opinion soon. :arrow:

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