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 Post subject: Iranian Election 09
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:31 am 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/13/world ... an.html?hp

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Iranians went to the polls Friday to elect a new president after an unusually intense campaign which saw the hard-line incumbent, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, seemingly thrown onto the defensive. Opposition leaders said they expected a huge turnout, with many reformists who sat out the last vote in 2005 saying they will take part this time.


2 pages so I'm not gonna quote it all here

Anyway, I'm interested in the outcome of this.

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 Post subject: Re: Iranian Election 09
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/13/world/middleeast/13iran.html?hp

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Iranians went to the polls Friday to elect a new president after an unusually intense campaign which saw the hard-line incumbent, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, seemingly thrown onto the defensive. Opposition leaders said they expected a huge turnout, with many reformists who sat out the last vote in 2005 saying they will take part this time.


2 pages so I'm not gonna quote it all here

Anyway, I'm interested in the outcome of this.


Yeah I'm certainly interested in it (I'm surprised we don't already have Iran thread). But don't forget, it's pretty much a PR/puppet position. The real power lies with Khamenei and the clerics.


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 Post subject: Re: Iranian Election 09
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dkfan9 wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/13/world/middleeast/13iran.html?hp

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Iranians went to the polls Friday to elect a new president after an unusually intense campaign which saw the hard-line incumbent, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, seemingly thrown onto the defensive. Opposition leaders said they expected a huge turnout, with many reformists who sat out the last vote in 2005 saying they will take part this time.


2 pages so I'm not gonna quote it all here

Anyway, I'm interested in the outcome of this.


You don't REALLY think Ahmedinejad is gonna get voted out do you...

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 Post subject: Re: Iranian Election 09
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ahmadinijad will win like bush won in 2004
the same hillbillies and backwards ass religious dumbfucks that vote for a midget war monger like bush will vote for a midget war monger like mahmoud
people are the same everywhere ...dumb


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 Post subject: Re: Iranian Election 09
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jerome230 wrote:
ahmadinijad will win like bush won in 2004
the same hillbillies and backwards ass religious dumbfucks that vote for a midget war monger like bush will vote for a midget war monger like mahmoud
people are the same everywhere ...dumb


You're telling me! :haha:

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 Post subject: Re: Iranian Election 09
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How does Germany figure into this election?


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 Post subject: Re: Iranian Election 09
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Just curious.

Who thought this would be an actual election?

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 Post subject: Re: Iranian Election 09
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Just curious.

Who thought this would be an actual election?


A better question:

Did Obama learn anything this week?

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 Post subject: Re: Iranian Election 09
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Oh yeah, I'm totally interested to see what lunatic a fanatical muslim country will elect next. I'm sure he will be a real winner, just like everyone else in the middle east.

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 Post subject: Re: Iranian Election 09
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Apparently the challenger lost in his own hometown, and now the U.S. suspects something's up with the election process there.

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 Post subject: Re: Iranian Election 09
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Apparently the challenger lost in his own hometown, and now the U.S. suspects something's up with the election process there.


Well if I was the US government, I'd suspect something is up. I mean, Obama made a speech! It was brilliant! Obama touches and inspires people. This surely must have worked. He's a world changer. He opens eyes. Just look at Lebanon! It was all his doing!!!! Surely Iran would have done the same thing!

Or people are just incredibly naive...

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 Post subject: Re: Iranian Election 09
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Iran has a large moderate youth movement going on, and for their challenger to lose in his hometown is absolutely suspect.

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 Post subject: Re: Iranian Election 09
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yeah. it's not so much the fact Ahmadinijad got re-elected that's suspect in itself but the numbers are.

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 Post subject: Re: Iranian Election 09
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Of course it was fixed. I think anyone familiar with Iran knew it would be, unless Ahmadinejad's late-election hikiinks managed to piss off the powers that be enough to support a challenger. Even then, the challenger they picked would certainly not have been Mousavi.

I don't think anyone thought they'd fix it quite this blatantly, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Iranian Election 09
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To answer LW, I did think Ahmadinejad was going to win, but I thought/think it will be interesting to see the aftermath.
On a side note, I do think it's hilarious that you decided to attack Obama in here though.

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 Post subject: Re: Iranian Election 09
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Now the Iranian heads of state have a record of who voted for the challenger. :nice:

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 Post subject: Re: Iranian Election 09
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corduroy_blazer wrote:
Apparently the challenger lost in his own hometown, and now the U.S. suspects something's up with the election process there.

That's great, we should probably send a few dozen battalions over there to take over and run the election for them, in that case.

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 Post subject: Re: Iranian Election 09
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I'd be all for internationally monitored, or even US only monitored, elections. However, I don't think Iran would.

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 Post subject: Re: Iranian Election 09
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corduroy_blazer wrote:
Apparently the challenger lost in his own hometown, and now the U.S. suspects something's up with the election process there.



The U.S. should mind it's own business. Iran is a sovereign nation. Let the U.N. deal with it, right? Sanctions sanctions sanctions.



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Saddam did not use the sanctions as an excuse to let the Iraqi people starve. The New York Times and Washington Post reported that he maintained an elaborate food-rationing program, presumably to hold the loyalty of the Iraqi people, which the sanctions were intended to dissolve. He did such a “good job” of creating dependence on the government for food that current American administrators in Iraq find the Iraqis reluctant to give up the program even though Saddam is gone and the sanctions are over.





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That's great, we should probably send a few dozen battalions over there to take over and run the election for them, in that case.


Or the U.S. should stop writing checks.
http://www.usaid.gov/iran/


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 Post subject: Re: Iranian Election 09
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Or the U.S. should stop writing checks.

what?

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