What would Jesus do? Wreck the planet, and all of its little creatures; from Think Progress:
Q: Reverend Falwell, what is your opinion on the issue of global warming?
A: “I drive a GMC Suburban. And I have since the early ’70s. My wife drives one… I believe that global warming is a myth. And so, therefore, I have no conscience problems at all and I’m going to buy a Suburban next time.” [CNN, 11/20/02]
Q: But if global warming is a myth, as you say, what is the reasoning behind scientific experts who have stated that this phenomenon is a fact?
A: “The whole thing is created to destroy America’s free enterprise system and our economic stability.” [CNN, 11/20/02]
Q: And you really believe that the polluting practices of humans are having no effect on Planet Earth?
A: “It is God’s planet…and he’s taking care of it. And I don’t believe that anything we do will raise or lower the temperature one point.” [MSNBC, 12/3/02]
Grist Magazine touched on this subject a little while ago:
Many Christian fundamentalists feel that concern for the future of our planet is irrelevant, because it has no future. They believe we are living in the End Time, when the son of God will return, the righteous will enter heaven, and sinners will be condemned to eternal hellfire. They may also believe, along with millions of other Christian fundamentalists, that environmental destruction is not only to be disregarded but actually welcomed -- even hastened -- as a sign of the coming Apocalypse ... People under the spell of such potent prophecies cannot be expected to worry about the environment. Why care about the earth when the droughts, floods, and pestilence brought by ecological collapse are signs of the Apocalypse foretold in the Bible? Why care about global climate change when you and yours will be rescued in the Rapture? And why care about converting from oil to solar when the same God who performed the miracle of the loaves and fishes can whip up a few billion barrels of light crude with a Word?
Many End-Timers believe that until Jesus' return, the Lord will provide. In America's Providential History, a popular reconstructionist high-school history textbook, authors Mark Beliles and Stephen McDowell tell us that: "The secular or socialist has a limited resource mentality and views the world as a pie ... that needs to be cut up so everyone can get a piece." However, "the Christian knows that the potential in God is unlimited and that there is no shortage of resources in God's Earth. The resources are waiting to be tapped." In another passage, the writers explain: "While many secularists view the world as overpopulated, Christians know that God has made the earth sufficiently large with plenty of resources to accommodate all of the people."
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Did you know that there have been volcanoes in recent history, that in just one explosion, spew more greenhouse gases into the air than all of humanity in its entire history?
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LittleWing wrote:
Did you know that there have been volcanoes in recent history, that in just one explosion, spew more greenhouse gases into the air than all of humanity in its entire history?
Just thought I'd throw that out there.
So should we plug up the volcanoes or quit worrying about the environment?
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LittleWing wrote:
Did you know that there have been volcanoes in recent history, that in just one explosion, spew more greenhouse gases into the air than all of humanity in its entire history?
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Cartman wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
Did you know that there have been volcanoes in recent history, that in just one explosion, spew more greenhouse gases into the air than all of humanity in its entire history?
Just thought I'd throw that out there.
Wow. I guess pollution is ok after all.
It's kind of like this. If high cholesterol or high blood pressure runs in your family, there's not really any point in trying to eat healthy because you're gonna end up with high cholesterol or blood pressure anyway. So you may as well eat what you want.
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just_b wrote:
They believe we are living in the End Time, when the son of God will return, the righteous will enter heaven, and sinners will be condemned to eternal hellfire. They may also believe, along with millions of other Christian fundamentalists, that environmental destruction is not only to be disregarded but actually welcomed -- even hastened -- as a sign of the coming Apocalypse.
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NaiveAndTrue wrote:
just_b wrote:
They believe we are living in the End Time, when the son of God will return, the righteous will enter heaven, and sinners will be condemned to eternal hellfire. They may also believe, along with millions of other Christian fundamentalists, that environmental destruction is not only to be disregarded but actually welcomed -- even hastened -- as a sign of the coming Apocalypse.
Ignorant Idiots, the lot of them.
And Jerry is their king.
And if we evolved from monkeys. How come there are still monkeys around.
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petemd wrote:
NaiveAndTrue wrote:
just_b wrote:
They believe we are living in the End Time, when the son of God will return, the righteous will enter heaven, and sinners will be condemned to eternal hellfire. They may also believe, along with millions of other Christian fundamentalists, that environmental destruction is not only to be disregarded but actually welcomed -- even hastened -- as a sign of the coming Apocalypse.
Ignorant Idiots, the lot of them.
And Jerry is their king.
And if we evolved from monkeys. How come there are still monkeys around.
How can you make jokes like that when right now the heathens are out there with their Sponge Bobs and Tinky Winky's trying to make our innocent children GAY?!?
But they are all liberal trying destroy Americas free enterprise system.
The views at nasa and the epa are all relics of the Clinton era. You'll notice that their positions on global warming have had zero effect on policy.
ucsusa.org is propaganda, of course. I can find an opposing site (and just as many opposing scientists) for every one you locate.
I would like to know how many of you have actually taken the time to research both sides of the argument, and then made an informed decision based on (it's crazy I know) logic and known science.
Cartman, are you familiar with one site or scientist or informed individual who disagrees with you, and why they reached that opinion?
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Hmmmm ... do I listen to a scientist with credentials and education? Or should I listen to junkscience.com offering no credentials, but backed up by our President, who could buy his way into school but still swing only a C average?
Even if global warming is a myth. Wouldn't a Christian make some attempt, ANY attempt, to be a good steward of God's creation?
What if your buddy lent you his car and you returned in w/ a flat tire, no gas, and covered top-to-bottom in mud? He'd kick your ass! What if your buddy had the power to blink you out of existence and/or send you to hell for an eternity? You'd wash the fucking car, inflate the tire, and buy some mother fucking gas.
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kilman wrote:
Being a white male Christian American please allow me to say that Jerry Fallwell and Pat Robertson DO NOT represent all Christians. Please dont be under the impression that they do.
Don't worry, we know.
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punkdavid wrote:
kilman wrote:
Being a white male Christian American please allow me to say that Jerry Fallwell and Pat Robertson DO NOT represent all Christians. Please dont be under the impression that they do.
Don't worry, we know.
I don't feel confident in that fact. I mean, look at this list prominent Christians who have come out against Falwell's rantings.
List:
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