Post subject: Billy Corgan trying to play it cool like Trent Reznor:
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:55 pm
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MESSAGE FROM BILLY CORGAN REGARDING SMASHINGPUMPKINS.COM
Recently I read a post by another famed alt-rocker from my generation lamenting the negative cultures of the internet...how its inherent narcissism ruins a lot of good fun for everyone because those that shout the loudest and are the most obsessive are able to control a dialogue over things that in the normal discourse of real life wouldn't be that big a deal...I have watched with great interest over the last 15 or so years the rise of the web and how it has given form to new social dynamics and single-handedly helped to blow up the music business that I think I used to belong to...as a interested observer, let me say then that I am fully aware that nothing I say here will change anything as it pertains to any negativity lingering proudly in the human soul, because that is a decision that only comes thru and from the collective; when a majority of us are tired of such constant poison that we'll scream 'enough' at the top of our lungs and the idiots get drowned out by those who have sat silently waiting till they can take it no more...I am more silent these days than not, an ironic fact of which I am criticized by fans for not feeding them with enough vacant info to their liking, but nicely applauded with apathy by those that don't care should I live or die...after all, aren't I a horrible, detestable creature that would dare go his own way in life?...shame on me for not being one of the sheeple!!
I have tried in vain to create a positive, loving website that takes into great effect those that would use it most...I hear quite often not to let the bad apples in this bunch that do visit the site far too often ruin it for the rest of those that aren't so destructive and are capable to see the forest from the trees...the point being 'hey Billy, its just the way of the world, don't be so sensitive'...
That's a similar logic I heard when I first started in music and I was told certain things were not possible with my band or my tunes...my point to you is just because everyone accepts something dumb doesn't make it good or whole or essential...in essence their point is, yes, the website is a reflection on the larger culture as a whole, and I am powerless to stop it... Todays laughter was me being criticized for a post that had info about a charity that was offering (to the highest bidder) a lunch with me. Unfortunately, unknown to me, the info stated that lunch was on the person who won the auction. Having never offered myself for a charity lunch date before, I was curious to see what fans might say about it. I was surprised to see a minor detail I was unaware of that said the winner must pay the bill at lunch turn into an attack on me and my supposed fortune. What an asshole I am to not want to buy lunch?
I bring this to your attention because this is exactly what's to be expected in a mean and bitter world. Every act, no matter how kind or caring must be viewed thru the dim lens of ambition, greed, power, and ultimately selfishness. There must be an ulterior motive to all of this, right?? A charity lunch just can't be as simple as that. The awareness raised for the charity means nothing against what its going to do for my career...and what a career its been! And thank God someone gets to fit the bill for my meal!
Yes I'm being sarcastic but the sad part is someone out there will read this and think the worst, never seeing the darkness and avarice in their own heart...
I've made a pledge to lead a different kind of business, and it must begin with this website, which stands as the public face of Smashing Pumpkins World Domination Corp.
What do I wish to dominate with? Love and good music...did he just say love and good music? Now I know he's insane...
Love means nothing against someone with something to say.
So I'll get to my point. This website is going to change. It is going to transform into something that is consistent with the concepts of love, grace, and community. We are not looking backwards anymore, only forward. I for one am willing to stand for something good here, in this little corner of the blogosphere, and say it's time.
What makes the things I'm saying here even more real to me is the passing of my dear friend Sky Sunlight Saxon. Sky lived everyday with the concept of LOVE as his guide, and he walked the talk. He was a spiritual warrior who would tell me that Yahowa knew the beauty of our hearts, and that musicians were the living prophets of the world. So in Sky's memory I am going to re-dedicate this website to represent the things he cared about most; love, life, music, his spiritual family, and the protection of all God's creatures, big and small.
Post subject: Re: Billy Corgan trying to play it cool like Trent Reznor:
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:56 pm
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I'd actually like to see internet social norms cracking down more on trolling, but he's gotta just suck it up about that lunch thing. There's a difference between trolling and criticizing
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Post subject: Re: Billy Corgan trying to play it cool like Trent Reznor:
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:01 pm
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stip wrote:
I'd actually like to see internet social norms cracking down more on trolling, but he's gotta just suck it up about that lunch thing. There's a difference between trolling and criticizing
Post subject: Re: Billy Corgan trying to play it cool like Trent Reznor:
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:49 pm
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alt-rocker?? anyone actually use that term on themselves??
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Post subject: Re: Billy Corgan trying to play it cool like Trent Reznor:
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:53 pm
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I'll always love Billy as an artist, but he's horrible at communicating with people and this is just another entry in a long line of nonsense he's spewed to his fanbase. He may have read something Trent Reznor wrote, but he doesn't understand the context of that message and it doesn't give any weight to what he's expressing here. There are a lot of abusive and critical voices in the SP community, yes, but Billy's behaviour nurtures and encourages his dysfunctional relationship with his fans. The SP community and their relationship with Billy is a strange thing, but Billy is the number one source of the dysfunction that exists there. Actions speak louder than words, and Billy continually plays the victim and whines and cries about how much he's hated by his fans on TV, online, and on stage, which only causes more people to lose respect for him. Just write the music you want to write, play the songs you want to play, ignore the bullshit and let your legacy speak for itself.
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Post subject: Re: Billy Corgan trying to play it cool like Trent Reznor:
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:19 pm
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Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:42 am Posts: 7939
owen meany wrote:
I'll always love Billy as an artist, but he's horrible at communicating with people and this is just another entry in a long line of nonsense he's spewed to his fanbase. He may have read something Trent Reznor wrote, but he doesn't understand the context of that message and it doesn't give any weight to what he's expressing here. There are a lot of abusive and critical voices in the SP community, yes, but Billy's behaviour nurtures and encourages his dysfunctional relationship with his fans. The SP community and their relationship with Billy is a strange thing, but Billy is the number one source of the dysfunction that exists there. Actions speak louder than words, and Billy continually plays the victim and whines and cries about how much he's hated by his fans on TV, online, and on stage, which only causes more people to lose respect for him. Just write the music you want to write, play the songs you want to play, ignore the bullshit and let your legacy speak for itself.
I didn't read the original post but I trust you enough to believe that you're nailed it with your post.
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Post subject: Re: Billy Corgan trying to play it cool like Trent Reznor:
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:01 pm
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Joined: Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:02 am Posts: 44183 Location: New York Gender: Male
he and chris cornell should move in and start a reality show together.
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