It cannot be denied that the central government has become destructive of our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and our rights to live free. The government is no longer responsive to we the People. They have stretched and shredded the constitution to the point that they have illegally seized for themselves virtually unlimited powers over the citizens and act as if we have no rights and no powers of our own. They are acting without our consent.
Our Founders established that when our government becomes destructive of our rights then it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
We have reached the point where the government's long train of abuses and usurpations has achieved absolute Despotism, therefore it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security.
Therefore, We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.
An interim provisional Chief Executive and congressional representatives will be established as follows:
The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.
An immediate election shall be held within each state legislature to appoint two interim senators to represent each sovereign state.
A special election shall be held by all states within 30 days to elect interim members of the House of Representatives.
Elections for regular government offices shall be conducted in November, 2010 as previously scheduled, except that elections will be held for all elective offices, including President, Vice President and all U.S. Representatives. U.S. Senators will be elected per class schedule by the various state legislatures.
We alter the government to provide new Guards for our future security as follows:
The Constitution of the United States must be kept intact and must be adhered to and strictly followed by all government entities as originally intended. The government has stretched the constitutional limits well beyond those intended by our founders. We must take steps to ensure that this is corrected and that the out of control government is reined in and that sufficient measures are introduced to maintain the limits, checks and balances on government and that government powers are strictly limited to those enumerated in the constitution and that our rights are reestablished, reaffirmed, re-secured and safeguarded. We must restore and reestablish the sovereignty of the people and the states and restore the constitutional balances between the central government, the various states and we the people. The constitution severely restricts government powers and guarantees unalienable freedom and Liberty to the people.
As we restore constitutionally limited government several wrongs must be righted:
The central government has illegally expanded its powers. They've done this by ignoring or stretching their constitutional limits. They have usurped powers limited to the states and the people. We must reestablish and reaffirm the enumerated powers and limit the central government strictly to just those powers. They've built huge power bases by allowing senators and representatives to be full time professional career positions. We eliminate this by establishing strict qualifications for office and term limits.
We must reestablish and reaffirm the powers to the states and the people as defined by the 9th and 10th amendments.
The central government has denied the states their constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government by introducing the 17th amendment which alters the way the senators which were to represent the sovereign interests of the various states to the central government. We must reestablish that representation by repealing the 17th amendment and allowing the state legislatures of the various states to elect their own senators as intended by our founders. This was never intended to be a function of the people. We the People are represented to the central government by our elected representatives in the House of Representatives. The sovereign states were to be represented by the state's senators to keep central powers and encroachment in check. Power is from the people to the states, and from the states to the central government. They've turned this upside down and inside out. We must correct it.
We hereby repeal the 17th amendment.
The central government has expanded well beyond the limits established for it by the founders and pay for that expansion by directly taxing the people and severely restricting our rights through an enslaving income tax.
We hereby repeal the 16th amendment.
The IRS and all sub departments and agencies are hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed.
The newly elected congress will establish rules and schedules for assessing and collecting fees, tariffs and excise taxes to support the armed forces and all constitutionally authorized departments of The United States Government per the Constitution of the United States (see schedule).
The central government is hereby stripped of all illegal powers and all departments and agencies not authorized by the constitution are hereby dissolved and disbanded. Their current budgets are hereby withdrawn. All disbanded department funds and liquid assets are to be immediately returned to the US Treasury. A list and methods for achieving this is provided in schedule xxx.
Ownership and responsibility for all federally held buildings, lands, parks, waterways, oceans, seas, etc, other than those in Washington, D.C. or military bases, forts, reservations, or local federal buildings owned by valid constitutional federal departments (see schedule) are hereby transferred to the sovereign state governments within which they reside or are located.
Responsibility for all natural resources found within any of the various states or within lands, oceans, lakes, rivers, waterways, seas out through our international boundary limits are hereby returned to the various states. All laws for mining, drilling, logging, or otherwise capitalizing on any minerals or natural resources are to be determined by the various states within which said resources are found.
The social security system is hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed. All social security funds being held by the federal government are to be returned to the private retirement accounts of the individuals owning them. A special fund will be establish for all current recipients and new recipients according to schedule xxy and the social security system shall be phased out accordingly. The funds to support current social security benefits shall become the responsibility of the states within which the recipients reside.
No revenues accruing to the federal government shall be disbursed to any state, city or local government for any reason whatsoever. Or used to subsidize or benefit any government or private entity, organization or person, other than those explicitly authorized and enumerated in the constitution.
All states are hereby solely responsible for any and all revenues or funds required to operate their sovereign states. The central government is not obligated to and shall not interfere in state government or local affairs.
The interstate commerce clause shall be applied strictly to regulating interstate commerce as originally established and intended by our founders. No stretches or reinterpretations of any kind shall be allowed.
Our first unalienable right is the right to life. Protecting Life and Liberty shall be of paramount importance to our central government. Roe v Wade and all congressional acts, regulations, court opinions allowing legalized abortion or the taking of innocent human life are hereby rescinded, overruled, repealed, nullified and voided. Life is fully protected by the U.S. Government.
The Federal Reserve.
Border security.
Medicare.
FAA, FDA, FCC, various federal ABC departments agencies and agencies. Which to close, which to remake with constitutional limits and authority, etc.
Federal Pensions.
Etc, etc, etc.
Need lots of help with this document, folks. Please chime in. Would love to see a committee formed of members of every state to complete and finalize it. Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.
This concept is an entirely peaceful altering of our despotic government per our unalienable right and duty. No where do I call for violence. The only force I call for is the force of numbers. We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government's ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.
Post subject: Re: Overthrowing the Federal Government
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:24 am
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Public executions for all socialists, right?
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Post subject: Re: Overthrowing the Federal Government
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:05 pm
Supersonic
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:43 am Posts: 10694
dkfan9 wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
Public executions for all socialists, right?
There's a place for socialists as the constitution was originally written. A socialist can exist in a free democratic society with a free market.
No such luck for a capitalist in a socialist society.
people who believe in capitalism can't exist in a free democratic society with a socialist economy?
Not really. That's why Stalin and Mao had to eliminate about 150,000,000 of them and why they all have "re-education" camps. I don't think there are a whole lot of capitalists functioning in North Korea or Cuba. What good are ideals if you don't have the freedom to live them out?
Post subject: Re: Overthrowing the Federal Government
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:10 pm
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LittleWing wrote:
dkfan9 wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
Public executions for all socialists, right?
There's a place for socialists as the constitution was originally written. A socialist can exist in a free democratic society with a free market.
No such luck for a capitalist in a socialist society.
people who believe in capitalism can't exist in a free democratic society with a socialist economy?
Not really. That's why Stalin and Mao had to eliminate about 150,000,000 of them and why they all have "re-education" camps. I don't think there are a whole lot of capitalists functioning in North Korea or Cuba. What good are ideals if you don't have the freedom to live them out?
Yes, all socialist societies must by default be bloody, oppressive, authoritarian states. or not. many European nations are closer to socialism than we are, yet they aren't further from democracy or freedom (except economic freedom, which has nothing to do with whether a society is democratic by definition).
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Post subject: Re: Overthrowing the Federal Government
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:19 pm
Supersonic
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:43 am Posts: 10694
dkfan9 wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
dkfan9 wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
Public executions for all socialists, right?
There's a place for socialists as the constitution was originally written. A socialist can exist in a free democratic society with a free market.
No such luck for a capitalist in a socialist society.
people who believe in capitalism can't exist in a free democratic society with a socialist economy?
Not really. That's why Stalin and Mao had to eliminate about 150,000,000 of them and why they all have "re-education" camps. I don't think there are a whole lot of capitalists functioning in North Korea or Cuba. What good are ideals if you don't have the freedom to live them out?
Yes, all socialist societies must by default be bloody, oppressive, authoritarian states. or not. many European nations are closer to socialism than we are, yet they aren't further from democracy or freedom (except economic freedom, which has nothing to do with whether a society is democratic by definition).
Well that's not what I said now was it. I said a socialist collective has the freedom to exist in a free democratic society WITH a free market. I wasn't drawing lines in the sand.
I have no place in North Korea. I have no place in Soviety Russia. Economic freedom is part in parcel to freedom in general. Why draw lines in the sand?
Post subject: Re: Overthrowing the Federal Government
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:25 pm
Reissued
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LittleWing wrote:
dkfan9 wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
dkfan9 wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
Public executions for all socialists, right?
There's a place for socialists as the constitution was originally written. A socialist can exist in a free democratic society with a free market.
No such luck for a capitalist in a socialist society.
people who believe in capitalism can't exist in a free democratic society with a socialist economy?
Not really. That's why Stalin and Mao had to eliminate about 150,000,000 of them and why they all have "re-education" camps. I don't think there are a whole lot of capitalists functioning in North Korea or Cuba. What good are ideals if you don't have the freedom to live them out?
Yes, all socialist societies must by default be bloody, oppressive, authoritarian states. or not. many European nations are closer to socialism than we are, yet they aren't further from democracy or freedom (except economic freedom, which has nothing to do with whether a society is democratic by definition).
Well that's not what I said now was it. I said a socialist collective has the freedom to exist in a free democratic society WITH a free market. I wasn't drawing lines in the sand.
I have no place in North Korea. I have no place in Soviety Russia. Economic freedom is part in parcel to freedom in general. Why draw lines in the sand?
with property taxes in place and a lack of open land that does not require purchase? it would probably be impossible for them to exist without participating in the market in some way, in practice. but socialism itself does nothing to limit democracy. and while capitalism isn't averse to democracy in the abstract, pure capitalism would be in nearly every nation because the people don't want pure capitalism.
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Post subject: Re: Overthrowing the Federal Government
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:37 pm
Supersonic
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:43 am Posts: 10694
dkfan9 wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
dkfan9 wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
dkfan9 wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
Public executions for all socialists, right?
There's a place for socialists as the constitution was originally written. A socialist can exist in a free democratic society with a free market.
No such luck for a capitalist in a socialist society.
people who believe in capitalism can't exist in a free democratic society with a socialist economy?
Not really. That's why Stalin and Mao had to eliminate about 150,000,000 of them and why they all have "re-education" camps. I don't think there are a whole lot of capitalists functioning in North Korea or Cuba. What good are ideals if you don't have the freedom to live them out?
Yes, all socialist societies must by default be bloody, oppressive, authoritarian states. or not. many European nations are closer to socialism than we are, yet they aren't further from democracy or freedom (except economic freedom, which has nothing to do with whether a society is democratic by definition).
Well that's not what I said now was it. I said a socialist collective has the freedom to exist in a free democratic society WITH a free market. I wasn't drawing lines in the sand.
I have no place in North Korea. I have no place in Soviety Russia. Economic freedom is part in parcel to freedom in general. Why draw lines in the sand?
with property taxes in place and a lack of open land that does not require purchase? it would probably be impossible for them to exist without participating in the market in some way, in practice. but socialism itself does nothing to limit democracy. and while capitalism isn't averse to democracy in the abstract, pure capitalism would be in nearly every nation because the people don't want pure capitalism.
I guess I don't really know what purchasing property would have to do with it. They are still on equal keel with the capitalist. There are no special favors for either of the two individuals. Property taxes are a manifestation of some level of socialism in and of itself.
It would be impossible for them to exist without participating in the market in some way, in practice (theoretically.) But socialism is so grand, it should either be able to compete with the free market, or exist outside of it, independent of it on egalitarian ideals.
Technically speaking whole swaths of the nation could voluntarily accept socialism and exist independent of the capitalist one. You could have a whole city, or even a state built upon willing participants of a socialist expirement in the nation and it could function on its own. Whole businesses could exist as well.
I agree with you that socialism doesn't impinge the democracy. I'm saying that enforced socialism, or even a social-market economy, impinges upon freedom. The free market doesn't do that to the socialist.
Post subject: Re: Overthrowing the Federal Government
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:59 pm
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LittleWing wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
Maybe these guys ought to try to win an election instead. Oh yeah, they comprise 25% of the electorate. Never mind.
Viva la revolucion!
Didn't you read the Gallup poll that just came out? Conservatives are the largest ideological group in America.
If that were true, they would have won the election.
I fail to see how ANY poll of Americans can really be accurate unless they actually poll ALL AMERICANS. No one asked me my ideological stance therefore Gallup can suck it.
Post subject: Re: Overthrowing the Federal Government
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:08 pm
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NaiveAndTrue wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
Maybe these guys ought to try to win an election instead. Oh yeah, they comprise 25% of the electorate. Never mind.
Viva la revolucion!
Didn't you read the Gallup poll that just came out? Conservatives are the largest ideological group in America.
If that were true, they would have won the election.
I fail to see how ANY poll of Americans can really be accurate unless they actually poll ALL AMERICANS. No one asked me my ideological stance therefore Gallup can suck it.
Post subject: Re: Overthrowing the Federal Government
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:01 pm
Got Some
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LittleWing wrote:
NaiveAndTrue wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
Maybe these guys ought to try to win an election instead. Oh yeah, they comprise 25% of the electorate. Never mind.
Viva la revolucion!
Didn't you read the Gallup poll that just came out? Conservatives are the largest ideological group in America.
If that were true, they would have won the election.
I fail to see how ANY poll of Americans can really be accurate unless they actually poll ALL AMERICANS. No one asked me my ideological stance therefore Gallup can suck it.
They didn't have a candidate.
Then who voted in the primaries?
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