_________________ No matter how dark the storm gets overhead They say someone's watching from the calm at the edge What about us when we're down here in it? We gotta watch our backs
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Could use a redesign, though.
_________________ No matter how dark the storm gets overhead They say someone's watching from the calm at the edge What about us when we're down here in it? We gotta watch our backs
This site is awesome! Thanks a lot for sharing. There are some great primary sources in there.
_________________ "Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires." -- John Steinbeck
looks like a big circle-jerk site for pseudointellectual wanna-bees.
You really bring a lot to the table, dontcha? At the rate you're going you'll have your very own greatest hits thread in no time.
_________________ "Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires." -- John Steinbeck
"For forms of government let fools contest, That which is best administered is best."
Nothing can be more fallacious than this. But poets read history to collect flowers, not fruits; they attend to fanciful images, not the effects of social institutions. Nothing is more certain, from the history of nations and nature of man, than that some forms of government are better fitted for being well administered than others.
We ought to consider what is the end of government, before we determine which is the best form. Upon this point all speculative politicians will agree, that the happiness of society is the end of government, as all divines and moral philosophers will agree that the happiness of the individual is the end of man. From this principle it will follow, that the form of government which communicates ease, comfort, security, or, in one word, happiness, to the greatest number of persons, and in the greatest degree, is the best.
_________________ "Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires." -- John Steinbeck
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aprilfifth wrote:
Man I love John Adams. Thanks again.
Quote:
"For forms of government let fools contest, That which is best administered is best."
Nothing can be more fallacious than this. But poets read history to collect flowers, not fruits; they attend to fanciful images, not the effects of social institutions. Nothing is more certain, from the history of nations and nature of man, than that some forms of government are better fitted for being well administered than others.
We ought to consider what is the end of government, before we determine which is the best form. Upon this point all speculative politicians will agree, that the happiness of society is the end of government, as all divines and moral philosophers will agree that the happiness of the individual is the end of man. From this principle it will follow, that the form of government which communicates ease, comfort, security, or, in one word, happiness, to the greatest number of persons, and in the greatest degree, is the best.
that's great stuff
_________________ stop light plays its part, so I would say you've got a part
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aprilfifth wrote:
Man I love John Adams. Thanks again.
Quote:
"For forms of government let fools contest, That which is best administered is best."
Nothing can be more fallacious than this. But poets read history to collect flowers, not fruits; they attend to fanciful images, not the effects of social institutions. Nothing is more certain, from the history of nations and nature of man, than that some forms of government are better fitted for being well administered than others.
We ought to consider what is the end of government, before we determine which is the best form. Upon this point all speculative politicians will agree, that the happiness of society is the end of government, as all divines and moral philosophers will agree that the happiness of the individual is the end of man. From this principle it will follow, that the form of government which communicates ease, comfort, security, or, in one word, happiness, to the greatest number of persons, and in the greatest degree, is the best.
_________________ There's just no mercy in your eyes There ain't no time to set things right And I'm afraid I've lost the fight I'm just a painful reminder Another day you leave behind
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Human Bass wrote:
aprilfifth wrote:
Man I love John Adams. Thanks again.
Quote:
"For forms of government let fools contest, That which is best administered is best."
Nothing can be more fallacious than this. But poets read history to collect flowers, not fruits; they attend to fanciful images, not the effects of social institutions. Nothing is more certain, from the history of nations and nature of man, than that some forms of government are better fitted for being well administered than others.
We ought to consider what is the end of government, before we determine which is the best form. Upon this point all speculative politicians will agree, that the happiness of society is the end of government, as all divines and moral philosophers will agree that the happiness of the individual is the end of man. From this principle it will follow, that the form of government which communicates ease, comfort, security, or, in one word, happiness, to the greatest number of persons, and in the greatest degree, is the best.
"For forms of government let fools contest, That which is best administered is best."
Nothing can be more fallacious than this. But poets read history to collect flowers, not fruits; they attend to fanciful images, not the effects of social institutions. Nothing is more certain, from the history of nations and nature of man, than that some forms of government are better fitted for being well administered than others.
We ought to consider what is the end of government, before we determine which is the best form. Upon this point all speculative politicians will agree, that the happiness of society is the end of government, as all divines and moral philosophers will agree that the happiness of the individual is the end of man. From this principle it will follow, that the form of government which communicates ease, comfort, security, or, in one word, happiness, to the greatest number of persons, and in the greatest degree, is the best.
I'm not sure how much of that post is a joke, so I'll just ask if the security, comfort, and promotion of happiness among citizens is not the proper end of government, what is?
_________________ "Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires." -- John Steinbeck
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I went to church with this fellow as a kid. My dad was friends with him. He is listed near the bottom in the Realism, Naturalism, and Process Philosophy section.
Charles Hartshorne (1897-2000) Biography /// Another biography /// Memorial. Professor of Philosophy at Chicago (1928-55), Emory (1955-62), and Texas (1962-78). Writings: Beyond Humanism: Essays in the New Philosophy of Nature (1937), Man's Vision of God and the Logic of Theism (1941), The Divine Relativity: A Social Conception of God (1948), Reality as a Social Process (1953), The Logic of Perfection (1965), A Natural Theology for Our Time (1967), Creative Synthesis and Scientific Method (1970), Insights and Oversights of Great Thinkers: An Evaluation of Western Philosophy (1983), Omnipotence and Other Theological Mistakes (1983), Creativity in American Philosophy (1984), Wisdom as Moderation (1987). Commentary: Charles Hartshorne, Existence and Actuality, Hartshorne and Unitarianism
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aprilfifth wrote:
Man I love John Adams. Thanks again.
Quote:
"For forms of government let fools contest, That which is best administered is best."
Nothing can be more fallacious than this. But poets read history to collect flowers, not fruits; they attend to fanciful images, not the effects of social institutions. Nothing is more certain, from the history of nations and nature of man, than that some forms of government are better fitted for being well administered than others.
We ought to consider what is the end of government, before we determine which is the best form. Upon this point all speculative politicians will agree, that the happiness of society is the end of government, as all divines and moral philosophers will agree that the happiness of the individual is the end of man. From this principle it will follow, that the form of government which communicates ease, comfort, security, or, in one word, happiness, to the greatest number of persons, and in the greatest degree, is the best.
Apparently this guy wasn't reading contemporary European philosophy in his time, though he seems to be brushed up on the utilitarianism that won't be published for another 50 years.
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