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Reid apologizes for racial remarks about Obama during campaign
From Mark Preston, CNN Political Editor
January 9, 2010 11:32 p.m. EST

Washington (CNN) -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid apologized Saturday for making racially insensitive remarks about Barack Obama during the presidential campaign.

Journalists Mark Halperin and John Heilemann reported the remarks in their new book, "Game Change," which is scheduled to be in bookstores Tuesday.

The authors quote Reid as saying privately that Obama, as a black candidate, could be successful thanks, in part, to his "light-skinned" appearance and speaking patterns "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one."

"He [Reid] was wowed by Obama's oratorical gifts and believed that the country was ready to embrace a black presidential candidate, especially one such as Obama -- a 'light-skinned' African American 'with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one,' " Halperin and Heilemann say.

"Reid was convinced, in fact, that Obama's race would help him more than hurt him in a bid for the Democratic nomination," they write.

In a statement to CNN, Reid said, "I deeply regret using such a poor choice of words."

"I sincerely apologize for offending any and all Americans, especially African Americans for my improper comments.

"I was a proud and enthusiastic supporter of Barack Obama during the campaign and have worked as hard as I can to advance President Obama's legislative agenda," the senator from Nevada said.

Reid pointed to his efforts to integrate the Las Vegas Strip and the gaming industry, among other legislation favored by African-American voters.

"I have worked hard to advance issues important to the African American community."

The senator called Obama Saturday afternoon to apologize for the racially insensitive remarks.

"Harry Reid called me today and apologized for an unfortunate comment reported today," Obama said in a statement.

"I accepted Harry's apology without question because I've known him for years, I've seen the passionate leadership he's shown on issues of social justice and I know what's in his heart. As far as I am concerned, the book is closed."

Reid, who waited to formally endorse Obama until after the tough presidential primary battle ended in 2008, is facing an uphill re-election fight this year in his home state.

An aide to the senator told CNN that Reid offered apologies to several prominent African-Americans, including House Democrats Jim Clyburn of South Carolina and Barbara Lee of California; the Rev. Al Sharpton; CNN political contributor and Democratic strategist Donna Brazile; NAACP chairman Julian Bond; and the head of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, Wade Henderson.

Nevada's state Senate Majority Leader Steven Horsford, who is African-American, reaffirmed his support for Reid in a statement Saturday.

"While I am disappointed in Senator Reid's comment and choice of words, I accept his apology," said Horsford, a Democrat. "I have known Senator Reid for many years, and he has consistently been supportive of advancing the interests of the African-American community as he has for all Nevadans and all Americans."

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i heard he's not the biggest fan of the Rooney rule

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Clearly, this is just as bad, if not worse, than Trent Lott endorsing Strom Thurmond's 1948 Presidential bid.

Pointing out racism is racist!!1!!

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On the news reporters have been saying that Reid said this publicly, while most Americans would not say this in private conversation. I think most people with a grasp on reality had said during Obama's campaign, in private conversation, "he can win because he doesn't come off that black". I mean, as a politician he shouldn't have said that, but it really wasn't much of a ridiculous thing to say.

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Most Americans would say much worse in a private conversation.

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On the news reporters have been saying that Reid said this publicly, while most Americans would not say this in private conversation. I think most people with a grasp on reality had said during Obama's campaign, in private conversation, "he can win because he doesn't come off that black". I mean, as a politician he shouldn't have said that, but it really wasn't much of a ridiculous thing to say.

He's so clean!

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True story: I worked as an intern for Mr Reid one summer in college in D.C.

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i mean, i'm not shocked. i would hardly call this racist; behind the times, whatever, maybe a slight prejudice, yeah. but not racist, or at least not in the way that matters.

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Not even prejudice. He didn't say he wouldn't vote for someone with a heavy negro dialect - he implied others wouldn't.

Tell me, if his job was pollster and was asked what are the odds Barack Obama could become president, would it be politically incorrect identifying all the reasons in his favor and against his favor in an objective manner? Of course not.

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Not even prejudice. He didn't say he wouldn't vote for someone with a heavy negro dialect - he implied others wouldn't.

Tell me, if his job was pollster and was asked what are the odds Barack Obama could become president, would it be politically incorrect identifying all the reasons in his favor and against his favor in an objective manner? Of course not.

yeah. i was just talking about using a word that is outdated and seen by some to have prejudiced overtones. it's a stupid comment by virtue of the usage of the wrong term; otherwise, i don't think there's anything wrong with what he said.

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given2trade wrote:
Not even prejudice. He didn't say he wouldn't vote for someone with a heavy negro dialect - he implied others wouldn't.

Tell me, if his job was pollster and was asked what are the odds Barack Obama could become president, would it be politically incorrect identifying all the reasons in his favor and against his favor in an objective manner? Of course not.

yeah. i was just talking about using a word that is outdated and seen by some to have prejudiced overtones. it's a stupid comment by virtue of the usage of the wrong term; otherwise, i don't think there's anything wrong with what he said.


I would agree with that, though if he said black instead of negro they would still be outrage right now. I think the main part is that OH MY GOD HE TALKED ABOUT RACE AND POLITICS! But yah, you're right. Negro is an inappropriate word. If he said nigger he would most definitely have to resign.

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In America, objective talk about race is not allowed. Unless it's negative and about caucasians.

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In America, objective talk about race is not allowed. Unless it's negative and about caucasians.


Yup, and that's thanks to people like Barack Obama.

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given2trade wrote:
dkfan9 wrote:
given2trade wrote:
Not even prejudice. He didn't say he wouldn't vote for someone with a heavy negro dialect - he implied others wouldn't.

Tell me, if his job was pollster and was asked what are the odds Barack Obama could become president, would it be politically incorrect identifying all the reasons in his favor and against his favor in an objective manner? Of course not.

yeah. i was just talking about using a word that is outdated and seen by some to have prejudiced overtones. it's a stupid comment by virtue of the usage of the wrong term; otherwise, i don't think there's anything wrong with what he said.


I would agree with that, though if he said black instead of negro they would still be outrage right now. I think the main part is that OH MY GOD HE TALKED ABOUT RACE AND POLITICS! But yah, you're right. Negro is an inappropriate word. If he said nigger he would most definitely have to resign.


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given2trade wrote:
Not even prejudice. He didn't say he wouldn't vote for someone with a heavy negro dialect - he implied others wouldn't.

Tell me, if his job was pollster and was asked what are the odds Barack Obama could become president, would it be politically incorrect identifying all the reasons in his favor and against his favor in an objective manner? Of course not.

Or if Harry Reid was a political strategist him saying this would mean he's decent at his job.

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cutuphalfdead wrote:
On the news reporters have been saying that Reid said this publicly, while most Americans would not say this in private conversation. I think most people with a grasp on reality had said during Obama's campaign, in private conversation, "he can win because he doesn't come off that black". I mean, as a politician he shouldn't have said that, but it really wasn't much of a ridiculous thing to say.

He's so clean!

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thodoks wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
On the news reporters have been saying that Reid said this publicly, while most Americans would not say this in private conversation. I think most people with a grasp on reality had said during Obama's campaign, in private conversation, "he can win because he doesn't come off that black". I mean, as a politician he shouldn't have said that, but it really wasn't much of a ridiculous thing to say.

He's so clean!

so fresh


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dscans wrote:
thodoks wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
On the news reporters have been saying that Reid said this publicly, while most Americans would not say this in private conversation. I think most people with a grasp on reality had said during Obama's campaign, in private conversation, "he can win because he doesn't come off that black". I mean, as a politician he shouldn't have said that, but it really wasn't much of a ridiculous thing to say.

He's so clean!

so fresh


articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy

You're so Ann Frank

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cutuphalfdead wrote:
On the news reporters have been saying that Reid said this publicly, while most Americans would not say this in private conversation. I think most people with a grasp on reality had said during Obama's campaign, in private conversation, "he can win because he doesn't come off that black". I mean, as a politician he shouldn't have said that, but it really wasn't much of a ridiculous thing to say.



This WAS actually said in private conversation, not publically. And there isn't anything racist about it. It's the truth.

I don't care what color you are. There are certain words, tones and grammars that you use in everyday conversation, and others that you use in public professional situations. I don't care how intelligent you are, when you ignore these rules, you sound uneducated and dumb. When my white girlfriend told me she had to , "conversate to her baby daddy", I nearly threw up. But there it is. I thought Sara Palin ignored this rule, and sounded like a friggin idiot. No yelled racism when she was compared to white trash for acting trashy. And I don't think it's racism for pointing out that Obama didn't act like the lowest version of his own race. If that makes sense.

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