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 Post subject: Obama and religion
PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:15 am 
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This is some pretty strong rhetoric.

http://pewforum.org/news/display.php?NewsID=19492

January 17, 2010
Obama tells church faith `keeps me calm'

WASHINGTON -- President Obama addressed how his faith guides him and the importance of hard work as he marked the birthday of the late Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. at a Washington church on Sunday (Jan. 17).

"Folks ask me sometimes why I look so calm," he said at Vermont Avenue Baptist Church, a historic congregation that was visited by King.

"I have a confession to make here. ... There are times when it feels like all these efforts are for naught, and change is so painfully slow in coming, and I have to confront my own doubts. But let me tell you during those times, it's faith that keeps me calm. It's faith that gives me peace."


The president spoke for almost half an hour in the usual spot for the sermon on the church's program, addressing about 500 people gathered in the Family Life Center of the congregation founded by freed slaves in 1866. At times he spoke like a preacher, opening his speech with "Good morning. Praise be to God," and concluding with "through God all things are possible."

He spoke of holding the kind of "faith that breaks the silence of an earthquake's wake with the sound of prayer and hymns sung by the Haitian community," as the congregation applauded in agreement.

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 Post subject: Re: Obama and religion
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pretty well written article

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/1 ... 52633.html

"It may be hard to comprehend the twisted logic that led to this tragedy. But this much we do know - no faith justifies these murderous and craven acts; no just and loving God looks upon them with favor. And for what he has done, we know that the killer will be met with justice - in this world, and the next."

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 Post subject: Re: Obama and religion
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dkfan9 wrote:
pretty well written article

I think an important question to ask is how Obama is using the word "faith." Does he mean belief or does he mean the community and everything else surrounding the belief?

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 Post subject: Re: Obama and religion
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corduroy_blazer wrote:
dkfan9 wrote:
pretty well written article

I think an important question to ask is how Obama is using the word "faith." Does he mean belief or does he mean the community and everything else surrounding the belief?

or just political pandering

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Mecca wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
dkfan9 wrote:
pretty well written article

I think an important question to ask is how Obama is using the word "faith." Does he mean belief or does he mean the community and everything else surrounding the belief?

or just political pandering

he's a Sheep... and the Lord is his Shepard.

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 Post subject: Re: Obama and religion
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corduroy_blazer wrote:
Obama tells church faith `keeps me calm'


*mosque

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flavdave wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
Obama tells church faith `keeps me calm'


*mosque

:lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Obama and religion
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I wonder if we'll see an agnostic/atheist president in our lifetime.

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given2trade wrote:
I wonder if we'll see an agnostic/atheist president in our lifetime.

Spoiler: show
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Are you planning on being cryogenically preserved?

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given2trade wrote:
I wonder if we'll see an agnostic/atheist president in our lifetime.

Spoiler: show
LOL!

Are you planning on being cryogenically preserved?


If I keep up these stock market returns, I plan on cryogenically preserving all RM members with >10,000 posts.

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given2trade wrote:
Buffalohed wrote:
given2trade wrote:
I wonder if we'll see an agnostic/atheist president in our lifetime.

Spoiler: show
LOL!

Are you planning on being cryogenically preserved?


If I keep up these stock market returns, I plan on cryogenically preserving all RM members with >10,000 posts.

Image

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EllisEamos wrote:
given2trade wrote:
Buffalohed wrote:
given2trade wrote:
I wonder if we'll see an agnostic/atheist president in our lifetime.

Spoiler: show
LOL!

Are you planning on being cryogenically preserved?


If I keep up these stock market returns, I plan on cryogenically preserving all RM members with >10,000 posts.

Image

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given2trade wrote:
Buffalohed wrote:
given2trade wrote:
I wonder if we'll see an agnostic/atheist president in our lifetime.

Spoiler: show
LOL!

Are you planning on being cryogenically preserved?


If I keep up these stock market returns, I plan on cryogenically preserving all RM members with >10,000 posts.

:(


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edzeppe wrote:
given2trade wrote:
Buffalohed wrote:
given2trade wrote:
I wonder if we'll see an agnostic/atheist president in our lifetime.

Spoiler: show
LOL!

Are you planning on being cryogenically preserved?


If I keep up these stock market returns, I plan on cryogenically preserving all RM members with >10,000 posts.

:(

Sucks to be you!

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 Post subject: Re: Obama and religion
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Sorry. There has to be a cutoff.

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given2trade wrote:
Sorry. There has to be a cutoff.

BANNED


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given2trade wrote:
Sorry. There has to be a cutoff.

and Ted Williams weeps...

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EllisEamos wrote:
given2trade wrote:
Sorry. There has to be a cutoff.

and Ted Williams weeps...



why, the cutoff is post count, not world series titles.


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