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 Post subject: Sean Penn and Hugo Chavez
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:16 am 
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I read this today online. Apparently Penn wants people jailed if they call Chavez a dictator.

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First Amendment be damned . . . If Oscar-winning actor Sean Penn had his way, any journalist who called Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez a dictator would quickly find himself behind bars.

Penn, appearing on HBO's "Real Time with Bill Maher" on Friday, defended Chavez during a segment in which he detailed his work with the JP Haitian Relief Organization, which he co-founded.

"Every day, this elected leader is called a dictator here, and we just accept it, and accept it" said Penn, winner of two Best Actor Academy Awards. "And this is mainstream media, who should -- truly, there should be a bar by which one goes to prison for these kinds of lies."

It was just the beginning of a busy weekend for Penn. When asked on CBS' "Sunday Morning" about those who question his motives for his humanitarian work in Haiti, he said:

"Do I hope that those people die screaming of rectal cancer? Yeah. You know, but I'm not going to spend a lot of energy on it."

Judge Andrew Napolitano, Fox News' senior judicial analyst, said the same constitutional protection that applies to journalists also applies to Penn, who can say pretty much anything he wants in the "political arena" -- aside from an immediate incitement of violence.

"What he is saying is protected, as wacky and weird as it is," Napolitano told FoxNews.com. "But the substance of what he's saying would be absolutely contrary to the First Amendment, which fully protects all political opinions. So if a journalist says Dick Cheney should go to jail, the journalist is privileged to say that."

"Mr. Penn is calling for a communist-like regime in which journalists who criticize the government are sent to jail because of that criticism," Napolitano added. "That is utterly un-American and hasn't happened here since the Civil War."

Lis Wiehl, a former federal prosecutor and Fox News legal analyst, echoed Napolitano’s comments, saying Penn’s statement is "completely counter" to First Amendment protections.

"Unless you're yelling 'fire' in a crowded theatre, i.e. stirring up immediate violence, you have the right as an American to voice your opinion, even if others (including Penn) disagree," she wrote FoxNews.com. "And, yes, Penn has the right to voice his opinion as well -- that's the beauty of the First Amendment. And, don't forget, truth is an absolute defense to any defamation or slander lawsuit."

According to a study by the Business and Media Institute, news coverage pertaining to Chavez from 1998 to 2006 found the Venezuelan president's human rights record was mentioned in only 10 percent of stories, and he was described as a leftist in 12 percent of stories.

Napolitano, meanwhile, said Penn apparently prefers "thuggery" to democracy.

"In light of his ignorance of freedom of speech, his wishing rectal cancer on his detractors, and his embracing tyrants, Mr. Penn obviously prefers thuggery to democracy," he continued. "Were he free to do so, he'd be a tyrant. Now we'll see if he can get me jailed for saying that!"

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 Post subject: Re: Sean Penn and Hugo Chavez
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He is a really good actor so we must listen to what his political views. I mean, how can a good actor be wrong?

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 Post subject: Re: Sean Penn and Hugo Chavez
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source? i'd like to link this on fb

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http://www.google.com

click on the "news"

search "sean penn" chavez"

I'm betting you get a hit!

You're too smart to ask something so dumb.

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 Post subject: Re: Sean Penn and Hugo Chavez
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that post sounds bitter.

aside from that, i wanted that specific article, but then i found it and saw it was sourced to fox news and figured i'd pick a different source so certain people might be more likely to read it (who am i kidding, no one's gonna read it either way) and less likely to let preconceived notions about biases cloud their realization that sean penn is an asshole. welp.

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 Post subject: Re: Sean Penn and Hugo Chavez
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After I posted, I did said search. I found it funny only 5 returns on this newsworthy story.

Most likely, they took him completely out of context.

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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham ... z0heJ1DJv3

more quotes from the interview.

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Who do you know here who’s gone through fourteen of the most transparent elections on the globe, and has been elected democratically, as Hugo Chavez?

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PENN: The collaborative opportunity in Haiti, when you talk about Hugo Chavez, and some of the other people who are demonized [think Castro], and you know, when some of these countries accuse us of an occupation -- where I believe this was strictly a humanitarian action by the United States military, and an incredible one – I’m a little sympathetic. Because every day, this elected leader is called a dictator here, and we just accept it! And accept it. And this is mainstream media, who should – truly, there should be a bar by which one goes to prison for these kinds of lies.


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 Post subject: Re: Sean Penn and Hugo Chavez
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The funniest thing about the extreme liberal hollywood crowd is they somehow don't realize in a socialist or communist society, all of their wealth gets stripped from them too! They think it's only the fortune 500 oil CEOs and the bankers.

Welp, we make millions honestly, by appearing in live action films!

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PENN: The collaborative opportunity in Haiti, when you talk about Hugo Chavez, and some of the other people who are demonized [think Castro], and you know, when some of these countries accuse us of an occupation -- where I believe this was strictly a humanitarian action by the United States military, and an incredible one – I’m a little sympathetic. Because every day, this elected leader is called a dictator here, and we just accept it! And accept it. And this is mainstream media, who should – truly, there should be a bar by which one goes to prison for these kinds of lies.


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lol @ the "think Castro" insert. They can read his mind !1!!1!1!!!!!!!

That being said, this quote is full of lulz.

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and people should care about this why?


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 Post subject: Re: Sean Penn and Hugo Chavez
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seriously, what do you expect of a guy like sean penn? he's friends with eddie vedder ffs.

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given2trade wrote:
dkfan9 wrote:
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PENN: The collaborative opportunity in Haiti, when you talk about Hugo Chavez, and some of the other people who are demonized [think Castro], and you know, when some of these countries accuse us of an occupation -- where I believe this was strictly a humanitarian action by the United States military, and an incredible one – I’m a little sympathetic. Because every day, this elected leader is called a dictator here, and we just accept it! And accept it. And this is mainstream media, who should – truly, there should be a bar by which one goes to prison for these kinds of lies.


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lol @ the "think Castro" insert. They can read his mind !1!!1!1!!!!!!!

That being said, this quote is full of lulz.

yeah i agree with your post.

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corky wrote:
and people should care about this why?

he actually has the potential to influence people i'd guess

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 Post subject: Re: Sean Penn and Hugo Chavez
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even if he didnt, it's still fun to post about. i mean, i'm not treating this as a serious deliberation on the fate of the human race or anything.

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 Post subject: Re: Sean Penn and Hugo Chavez
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Yah, I'm thankful to Sean Penn for giving us this thread.

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Also, Dead Man Walking was a great movie.

Don't get me started on Fast Times...

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 Post subject: Re: Sean Penn and Hugo Chavez
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he sure has come a long way since boning the material girl.

only in america...

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