Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:53 pm Posts: 20537 Location: The City Of Trees
Instead of starting a new thread for every time I think about looking at some issue, I thought I'd start to concentrate it in one location.
Check out this awesome tool the NYT made. I haven't paid as much attention yet to the actual Obama/McCain breakdown, but this was a really well-built tool and it was fascinating to see some of the differences.
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 20059 Gender: Male
thats awesome
interesting that in districts made up of >=19% Catholics Obama had 59% of the total, although that's almost reversed when it's limited to >=71% not surprised that percent college graduates and Obama voters correlate, nor that poverty level and Obama win do. also interesting that correlation between manufacturing jobs and McCain votes is something I didn't know, though I wouldn't say it's a shock.
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Haha, I thought about doing the new 50 states thing once, but I would have needed a massive amount of data to do it and said, fuck that. I like it, though I'd try my damnedest to divide the Northwest a different way.
In the latest sign of the nation’s shifting racial and ethnic composition, births to Asian, black and Hispanic women in the United States are on the verge of surpassing births to non-Hispanic whites.
Minorities accounted for 48 percent of all births in the nation in the 12 months ending July 2008. While it will most likely take years for health statisticians to confirm precisely when the 50 percent benchmark will have been reached, demographers said it could occur this year. Depending on variables like the recession, which has depressed birth rates, it will almost certainly happen within a year or two, they said.
“It looks like ‘majority’ births would drop below 50 percent around 2012,” said Carl Haub, senior demographer for the Population Reference Bureau.
As recently as 1990, non-Hispanic whites accounted for almost two-thirds of births.
The Census Bureau has estimated that minorities will constitute a majority of the nation’s overall population in about three decades and a majority of Americans under age 18 in about one decade.
Since 2000 alone, the proportion of people under age 20 who are non-Hispanic whites dipped to 57 percent, from 61 percent. In 2008, Asian, black and Hispanic children already made up 47 percent of the population under 5 years old.
A study released this week by Professors Kenneth M. Johnson of the University of New Hampshire and Daniel Lichter of Cornell University explored why younger Americans are at the forefront of racial and ethnic changes and what those changes augur, compared with a generation ago.
“The social and economic realities of children had deteriorated, while the circumstances of the elderly had improved,” they write in the journal Population and Development Review. “Will America’s older, largely white population — through the ballot box and collective self-interest — support young people who are now much different culturally from themselves and their own children? Will they vote, for example, to raise taxes for schools that serve young people of ethnic backgrounds different from theirs?”
Even though immigration has declined from earlier projections, other variables are contributing to the racial and ethnic shift.
Among them are a decline in the number of non-Hispanic white and even black children; white and Asian birthrates below the replacement level, which magnifies the impact of higher Hispanic birthrates and immigration; and declining numbers of non-Hispanic white women of child-bearing age (down 6 percent since 2000), while the number of Hispanic women in that category climbed 21 percent. There were about 10 Hispanic births in a recent year for each Hispanic death.
“The big drop in white child-bearing age is probably only beginning to be fully felt in the number of white births, so they may drop more,” said Professor Johnson, who is the senior demographer at New Hampshire’s Carsey Institute. “In contrast, the rapid rise in the number of minority women — especially Hispanics — is likely to push minority births up.”
The vast majority of children in the three major minority groups are not immigrants, and the share of Hispanic children who were born abroad may have peaked. Still, only 39 percent of Hispanic children under 4 years old have two native-born parents.
not exactly shocking developments, but interesting read and to see where we are along the demographic path we're taking.
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Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:14 am Posts: 37778 Location: OmaGOD!!! Gender: Male
Saw this today and thought of this thread also. Be sure to click that last embedded link, it's a very cool map, that I think we've talked about here before.
Instead, we should answer Question 9 by checking the last option — “Some other race” — and writing in “American.” It’s a truthful answer but at the same time is a way for ordinary citizens to express their rejection of unconstitutional racial classification schemes. It’s a truthful answer but at the same time is a way for ordinary citizens to express their rejection of unconstitutional racial classification schemes. In fact, “American” was the plurality ancestry selection for respondents to the 2000 census in four states and several hundred counties.
Guess what region those four states come from? But that question refers to "ancestry", which is kind of funny because all those southerners lied about being Native Americans. Claiming "American" as a race is a whole new level of dumb.
But it shouldn't be a problem for the Census. Anyone writing in "American" as race is obviously white.
And stupid.
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Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:51 am Posts: 17078 Location: TX
punkdavid wrote:
Saw this today and thought of this thread also. Be sure to click that last embedded link, it's a very cool map, that I think we've talked about here before.
Instead, we should answer Question 9 by checking the last option — “Some other race” — and writing in “American.” It’s a truthful answer but at the same time is a way for ordinary citizens to express their rejection of unconstitutional racial classification schemes. It’s a truthful answer but at the same time is a way for ordinary citizens to express their rejection of unconstitutional racial classification schemes. In fact, “American” was the plurality ancestry selection for respondents to the 2000 census in four states and several hundred counties.
Guess what region those four states come from? But that question refers to "ancestry", which is kind of funny because all those southerners lied about being Native Americans. Claiming "American" as a race is a whole new level of dumb.
But it shouldn't be a problem for the Census. Anyone writing in "American" as race is obviously white.
And stupid.
Being that this came from teabaggers, I'm trying to discern some kind of subversive intent to it, but I can't put my finger on it. This seems pretty innocent, what am I missing? Aside from the fact that it's pointless and stupid.
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:14 am Posts: 37778 Location: OmaGOD!!! Gender: Male
Buffalohed wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
Saw this today and thought of this thread also. Be sure to click that last embedded link, it's a very cool map, that I think we've talked about here before.
Instead, we should answer Question 9 by checking the last option — “Some other race” — and writing in “American.” It’s a truthful answer but at the same time is a way for ordinary citizens to express their rejection of unconstitutional racial classification schemes. It’s a truthful answer but at the same time is a way for ordinary citizens to express their rejection of unconstitutional racial classification schemes. In fact, “American” was the plurality ancestry selection for respondents to the 2000 census in four states and several hundred counties.
Guess what region those four states come from? But that question refers to "ancestry", which is kind of funny because all those southerners lied about being Native Americans. Claiming "American" as a race is a whole new level of dumb.
But it shouldn't be a problem for the Census. Anyone writing in "American" as race is obviously white.
And stupid.
Being that this came from teabaggers, I'm trying to discern some kind of subversive intent to it, but I can't put my finger on it. This seems pretty innocent, what am I missing? Aside from the fact that it's pointless and stupid.
Mostly pointless and stupid. The funny part is that it is very possible that it would have the opposite of their desired effect. The write-ins could all get lumped in with "other" and reduce the white population accordingly.
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This could get some discussion going, such as what is continually wrong with the Deep South.
Some notable things about my home state: --Child Immunization Rate: I don't know how the hell it didn't finish dead last--this has been a long and well known problem here. --Dead last in practicing physicians? I don't get that one at all. --Dead last in Combined enrollment rate:I don't know what that stat even means. --Second to last (SD) in Teachers with Advanced Degree: though I don't think it's that important. --Second to last (NV) in Preschool Enrollment: --FAR AND AWAY dead last in Water Consumption: That makes no sense whatsoever in the land of irrigation. There's a fair amount of cattle farming (the worst offender by far) here, but I don't think it's unusual compared to other states.
Other notable things: Infant Mortality Rate: could be mistaken for the Mason-Dixon Line Teenage Pregnancy: extend the Mason-Dixon Line further southwest Tobacco: hello, Appalachia...and Nevada in a healthy island in the west. Uninsured: the West was worse at this than I thought...immigration? Overcrowded Housing Units: oh boy, here come some stereotypes...
Joined: Fri May 06, 2005 7:53 pm Posts: 3320 Location: Wyoming Gender: Male
My aunt is a rightwing nutjob, and she's lobbying my parents (right, but not nuts) to put as little on the census form as is legal, because of "big brother" & Obama's "socialist agenda." my folks think she's paranoid & I think she's being fucking retarded. It's for demographic purposes, the information can't be used against you...not to mention that the data is pretty frigging basic.
It's a "Snapshot of America," right? (Those are stupid fucking commercials.)
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