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 Post subject: Hold the Salt!
PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:27 pm 
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More than 35 years after women marched around with “Government: Get your hands off my body” signs, I may have to print up a new batch. In the early 1970s, the signs were to stand up for a newly pregnant woman’s right to choose what to do with her body. We won that fight. On Jan. 22, 1973, the U.S. Supreme Court, decided in favor of Jane Roe in Roe v. Wade, making first-trimester abortions legal again.

For years, the government has chipped away at my freedom by patting me on the head as it passed patronizing laws about what was in my best interest. But now the government wants to take away my salt, and it’s time to fight back.

I do understand the need to balance free choice with public safety. If I choose to smoke in public, the government can tell me where I must stand because my right to smoke in public ends where someone else’s lungs begin.

I’m less sympathetic when it comes to making sure I buckle my seat belt or wear a helmet when I ride a motorcycle. It should be my choice whether to live as a vegetable.

But not an unsalted one.

The government took away my trans fats, and Oreos and Entenmann’s are no longer worth eating. Shouldn’t I be the one to judge how much I’m willing to risk on that carcinogen?

The government says Americans eat too much salt. It leads to high blood pressure, and that’s unhealthy. So the government is urging food manufacturers to cut the amount of salt they use in processed foods.

Will Big Brother now make Morton’s available only by prescription? Or will I be reduced to skulking in dark corners of the park to blow my paycheck on a couple of grams of salt slid to me in a baggie?

Granted, on average, we Americans are a nation of fat slobs. We eat the wrong foods and too much of them. We don’t move our muscles enough. We would rather text someone than have a voice-to-voice conversation. We prefer the fantasy life of TV shows and online games because having a real life with real friends is too hard.

But shouldn’t that be our choice?

It’s time for us to take back the night. I’ll start with the Fritos.

http://chapelhillwatch.com/?p=215


Don't you think asking manufacturers of food to cut back on the salt gives the consumer more choice? The vast majority of people have no fucking clue how much salt they're eating when the buy boxed food. If they find the taste a little drab and you want your heart to pop like a grape, it's pretty fucking easy to add salt.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:45 pm 
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More than 35 years after women marched around with “Government: Get your hands off my body” signs, I may have to print up a new batch. In the early 1970s, the signs were to stand up for a newly pregnant woman’s right to choose what to do with her body. We won that fight. On Jan. 22, 1973, the U.S. Supreme Court, decided in favor of Jane Roe in Roe v. Wade, making first-trimester abortions legal again.

For years, the government has chipped away at my freedom by patting me on the head as it passed patronizing laws about what was in my best interest. But now the government wants to take away my salt, and it’s time to fight back.

I do understand the need to balance free choice with public safety. If I choose to smoke in public, the government can tell me where I must stand because my right to smoke in public ends where someone else’s lungs begin.

I’m less sympathetic when it comes to making sure I buckle my seat belt or wear a helmet when I ride a motorcycle. It should be my choice whether to live as a vegetable.

But not an unsalted one.

The government took away my trans fats, and Oreos and Entenmann’s are no longer worth eating. Shouldn’t I be the one to judge how much I’m willing to risk on that carcinogen?

The government says Americans eat too much salt. It leads to high blood pressure, and that’s unhealthy. So the government is urging food manufacturers to cut the amount of salt they use in processed foods.

Will Big Brother now make Morton’s available only by prescription? Or will I be reduced to skulking in dark corners of the park to blow my paycheck on a couple of grams of salt slid to me in a baggie?

Granted, on average, we Americans are a nation of fat slobs. We eat the wrong foods and too much of them. We don’t move our muscles enough. We would rather text someone than have a voice-to-voice conversation. We prefer the fantasy life of TV shows and online games because having a real life with real friends is too hard.

But shouldn’t that be our choice?

It’s time for us to take back the night. I’ll start with the Fritos.

http://chapelhillwatch.com/?p=215


Don't you think asking manufacturers of food to cut back on the salt gives the consumer more choice? The vast majority of people have no fucking clue how much salt they're eating when the buy boxed food. If they find the taste a little drab and you want your heart to pop like a grape, it's pretty fucking easy to add salt.



so the government should regulate businesses because people are too stupid to read a label?


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this salt thing sort of pisses me off

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dkfan9 wrote:
this salt thing sort of pisses me off



I think this is an actual example of the slippery slope argument

well, it was accepted enough when states enacted seatbelt laws

and smoking laws

and then trans fat bans

now salt.


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good. maybe canada will follow suit.

i've been wanting canada to pressure food manufacturers on salt levels for years. there was a study in the globe and mail a few months ago showing the different salt levels in the exact same foods in canada and britain. the salt in the british versions were usually half or even a third of the salt in the canadian ones because the british government had acted.


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good. maybe canada will follow suit.

i've been wanting canada to pressure food manufacturers on salt levels for years. there was a study in the globe and mail a few months ago showing the different salt levels in the exact same foods in canada and britain. the salt in the british versions were usually half or even a third of the salt in the canadian ones because the british government had acted.



and of course British Cuisine is world reknowned for its flavor


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Skitch Patterson wrote:
corky wrote:
good. maybe canada will follow suit.

i've been wanting canada to pressure food manufacturers on salt levels for years. there was a study in the globe and mail a few months ago showing the different salt levels in the exact same foods in canada and britain. the salt in the british versions were usually half or even a third of the salt in the canadian ones because the british government had acted.



and of course British Cuisine is world reknowned for its flavor



i'm talking just everyday items. cereals, cookies, fast food, i forget what else.


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i agree on the slippery slope idea---people are ok with things closer to the status quo: political change has to be gradual, in general. if there were no other food regulation, this would be radical, would it not? i don't see how the previous actions re: food regulation can't be seen as largely paving the way for this. slippery slope is a real concept in the political realm, although it is abused often (universal health care--->communist fascism).

although i didn't notice any change in the taste of oreo's in the last many years...

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Skitch Patterson wrote:
corky wrote:
good. maybe canada will follow suit.

i've been wanting canada to pressure food manufacturers on salt levels for years. there was a study in the globe and mail a few months ago showing the different salt levels in the exact same foods in canada and britain. the salt in the british versions were usually half or even a third of the salt in the canadian ones because the british government had acted.



and of course British Cuisine is world reknowned for its flavor

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if you're going to have nationalized health care it's only cost effective to force healthy habits.

Choices are relics of free societies.

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i don't think i buy that. or at least no more than medicare makes it compulsory for old people to go for walks daily (assuming their bosy is in ok for old people shape).

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Electromatic wrote:
if you're going to have nationalized health care it's only cost effective to force healthy habits.

Choices are relics of free societies.

:haha: Jesus christ. It's some fucking salt. Keep a shaker on the counter and salt the shit out of your food at home, if you love the stuff so much.

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1. Healthcare reform
2. Regulate salt
3. ????????
4. GULAG

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just because it's not the end of the world or bound to lead to totalitarianism doesn't make it ok. i mean, arbitrary taxation or limitation of most things isn't the end of the world.

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It isn't arbitrary. The FDA already regulates what can be in food, and how much of it. Salt in large amounts is not good for you. There is a fucking shitload of salt in most prepared food. So the FDA is trying to cut down on the amount of it in our food.

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i'm not saying it's arbitrary in this case, just that you could tax whatever in any way you want and life would still go on; and i say that to show it's not so important whether or not a government regulation is a huge inconvenience to whether or not it's a good thing to do. harming yourself with overconsumption of salt harms yourself. i really don't have an issue people harming themselves.

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I still have to LOL at how anyone can defend trans fats. Just read what they do to your body! And the only reason manufacturers use it, no matter what they tell you, is because it's cheaper than the healthier alternatives. Especially for frying.

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If you don't like the level of salt found in processed food, don't buy processed food. It's not like buying food in it's raw state is hard to do. It's not like food labelling isn't mandatory, so the consumer is exactly as informed as the consumer wants to be.

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Skitch Patterson wrote:
so the government should regulate businesses because people are too stupid to read a label?


When Medicare and Medicaid end up paying for the cardiologist? Yes.

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the consumer is exactly as informed as the consumer wants to be.


what they could be better informed as to is how much is too much. and don't say 100% of whatever the FDA has there cause i consume (and especially used to) multiple times 100% the protein the FDA recommends, even if i adjusted those amounts for my calorie intake, so i don't really trust those numbers for my diet. now if the number is still 100% the amount, that's fine, but i can't take that number at face value when other numbers there don't apply.

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