http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7205300/

Yes yes, lets ban anything offensive, because true Christians can't read a fictional novel. [/i]

aka "fiction"

Exactly. Someone tell the Catholic hierarchy that.

Someone needs to tell the Catholic heirarchy that its the 21st century

Someone needs to tell the Catholic Church that 100 million people have read this book in the last three years and they're a bit slow on the draw.

Or that if your faith is challenged by a work of fiction, you're probably going to hell. The bottom level. Not purgatory hell. Fire in your nut sack hell.

Why are you people calling it "fiction"? A lot of the stuff in that book is true, all the conspiracy theory people have known it for years. My guess is the Vatican just hoped it would go away, but since it's not going away, and now they're making a movie, they'd better denounce it.

What is the line? "Methinks the lady doth protest too much."

Isn't the Catholic's joke of a book fiction too?

Hamlet. Good call. "Oh this too too sullied flesh would melt..." A friend of mine and I are performing the fishmonger scene in a week.

Anyway..yes it's based on information, but in the end the novel does not claim to be history. It's a novel.

Not to mention that the "conspiracy" brought up is amazingly trivial.

arent most of you against the teaching of creationism in the classroom?

Is this going anywhere?

no of course not, cause i can just sit here and say how the cardinal wants to ban it from catholic bookstores is no different than you guys wanting creationism banned from the classroom as eriely similar, but you all would come up with some half-assed response how its infringing on freedom of speech etc...

We're mocking the Catholic Church b/c they are afraid to let people read a fictional book, that they know is fiction.

We don't want creationism in school b/c it would be presenting religion as fact (which it is not).

There is a difference.

Creationism should be banned from schools because there is a constitutional amendment preventing the government from imposing religion in public schools. That's the first difference. And the main reason why people are against it. Honestly, there aren't that many people who feel threatened by someone telling them that God made the world if they think God doesn't exist. But it's unconstitutional and most people want respect for their constitutional rights.

Secondly, we're talking about censorship here. The Cardinal is telling people not to read it. No one is telling you that creationism is wrong or evil. It's just not taught in schools. Likewise, I wouldn't expect to hear a reading from the "Book of the Da Vinci Code" in church next weekend, but that doesn't mean that the book is Satan and everyone should block it from their minds. Time and place. Not outright banning.

i just dont see how its imposing a religion on someone, if the idea of creationism is soooooo falable as people make it out to be, then people should be able to see right through it, its not so much that the church is taking over a school



no we are not talking censorship here. we are talking about someone saying hey, i dont think you should read it. hes not actually stopping anyone from reading it, christ, give me a fucking break

It's not really imposing, but it is anti-constitutional.

Sure, it's a very low form of censorship, but to say that it isn't is foolish. It's an authority figure telling you what is acceptable. Maybe there isn't physical action or consequences involved, but this is a Vatican offical. I expect there will be Catholics who believe him.

You just love to play devil's advocate, don't you?

Creationism is wrong and evil. There I said it.

So is reading.

I can't believe I have to use this link twice in one day!
http://www.masterbooks.net/details/dino.htm

If you are religious then you have already been taught about creationism at church so it does not have to be taught in school. Or maybe it can be taught in in mythology class, along w/ the easter bunny, Santa Claus, Loch Ness monster and Michael Jackson.