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 Post subject: Grand Rapids 2006 Enc 1
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is still the best thing this band has done live since 2000.


that is all.

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Um, no.

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 Post subject: Re: Grand Rapids 2006 Enc 1
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It's not even the best thing they did in 2006.

I know I've talked about how I love how much tighter the band were in 2006, but even I'll readily admit Grand Rapids is disappointingly sloppy.


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Even a tight 2006 performance is still a 2006 performance and the songs will be played as rushed as they ever have been.

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 Post subject: Re: Grand Rapids 2006 Enc 1
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 Post subject: Re: Grand Rapids 2006 Enc 1
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That's right, I judge the whole tour on the few early shows I heard.

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 Post subject: Re: Grand Rapids 2006 Enc 1
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Ya gotta check out those links, chudster.

Good tour, I swear.

See my theory in the 2010 Boots thread that the only reason the 2006 tour isn't salivated over on here is none of the great shows happened in the North-East US. They East Coast leg was kinda okay (with a couple of really good shows in there too, Hartford, Albany and Camden II were great), they started to really warm up on the West Coast leg and were absolutely on fire through Europe and Australia.

It's a shame that it looks like they're done with full-length world tours, I think they need them to really hit a good groove.


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The Grand Rapids setlist is awesome but the show falls short once you listen to it.


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 Post subject: Re: Grand Rapids 2006 Enc 1
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spenno wrote:
Ya gotta check out those links, chudster.

Good tour, I swear.

See my theory in the 2010 Boots thread that the only reason the 2006 tour isn't salivated over on here is none of the great shows happened in the North-East US. They East Coast leg was kinda okay (with a couple of really good shows in there too, Hartford, Albany and Camden II were great), they started to really warm up on the West Coast leg and were absolutely on fire through Europe and Australia.

It's a shame that it looks like they're done with full-length world tours, I think they need them to really hit a good groove.

I would agree with this. Having said that, Camden 1 and MSG 2 in 2008 were fucking incredible, and every night in Europe in 2009 I attended with the exception of Shepherd's Bush were some of the best PJ shows I've seen. Some of those US 2003 shows I attended (LA 1, Council Bluffs, Little Rock and Vegas) were amazing, too, but 2003 was a pretty big tour as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Grand Rapids 2006 Enc 1
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Yeah, I think I'm finding the 2008-2010 boots a bit harder to appreciate cuz I just don't dig the sound of the boots as much - if I'd been at some of those shows, I'm sure I'd think there were some stand-outs too.

I think Ed's voice is one thing that most benefits from a longer tour, which seems like it would be the other way around but hey.


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spenno wrote:
Yeah, I think I'm finding the 2008-2010 boots a bit harder to appreciate cuz I just don't dig the sound of the boots as much - if I'd been at some of those shows, I'm sure I'd think there were some stand-outs too.

I think Ed's voice is one thing that most benefits from a longer tour, which seems like it would be the other way around but hey.


It definitely takes a few shows for his voice to steel up. There's a huge difference between his vocals from the Seattle 2 show from 09 and shows just a week later.


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spenno wrote:
Yeah, I think I'm finding the 2008-2010 boots a bit harder to appreciate cuz I just don't dig the sound of the boots as much - if I'd been at some of those shows, I'm sure I'd think there were some stand-outs too.

I think Ed's voice is one thing that most benefits from a longer tour, which seems like it would be the other way around but hey.

The whole band tend to play a lot tighter the longer they tour. I remember Jeff saying it take 'em about 10 shows to warm up-now we're lucky to get 10 fucking shows without a 6 week or longer break.

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randallanddarcy wrote:
spenno wrote:
Yeah, I think I'm finding the 2008-2010 boots a bit harder to appreciate cuz I just don't dig the sound of the boots as much - if I'd been at some of those shows, I'm sure I'd think there were some stand-outs too.

I think Ed's voice is one thing that most benefits from a longer tour, which seems like it would be the other way around but hey.

The whole band tend to play a lot tighter the longer they tour. I remember Jeff saying it take 'em about 10 shows to warm up-now we're lucky to get 10 fucking shows without a 6 week or longer break.

Exactly.


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 Post subject: Re: Grand Rapids 2006 Enc 1
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I am pleased with the discussion this has engendered but disappointed with the responses.

Not the best thing they did in '06? We're talking Sleight O=>Off He Goes=>Around the Bend=>Parting Ways=>Hard To Imagine=>Crazy Mary=>Alive.

That's not just setting a mood, that's a campfire.

In particular, the Parting Ways/HTI/Crazy Mary segment is unbelievable. Something about Parting Ways into Hard To Imagine just resonates with me, and if you go back and listen to this version of crazy Mary I honestly think its the best the band's ever done (before you tell me I'm full of shit, actually listen to it).

Oh well. To each his own I guess.

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DeLima wrote:
I am pleased with the discussion this has engendered but disappointed with the responses.

Not the best thing they did in '06? We're talking Sleight O=>Off He Goes=>Around the Bend=>Parting Ways=>Hard To Imagine=>Crazy Mary=>Alive.

That's not just setting a mood, that's a campfire.

In particular, the Parting Ways/HTI/Crazy Mary segment is unbelievable. Something about Parting Ways into Hard To Imagine just resonates with me, and if you go back and listen to this version of crazy Mary I honestly think its the best the band's ever done (before you tell me I'm full of shit, actually listen to it).

Oh well. To each his own I guess.


I saw that setlist and was like oh shit! and downloaded it, but after I listened to it it's pretty meh. Parting Ways was good, but other than that...


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 Post subject: Re: Grand Rapids 2006 Enc 1
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still believe this is one of the best 1st encores....

philly 10.3.05

around the bend
harvest moon
hard to imagine
crown of thorns
crazy mary
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 Post subject: Re: Grand Rapids 2006 Enc 1
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I'll take Grand Rapids '06 over the Philly 2005 encore but that's a great one too. I also like:

Footsteps
Once
Alive
State Of Love And Trust
Crown Of Thorns
Leash
Porch

from Gorge I in 2006. Also not as good as Grand Rapids '06 but still great.

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matt reeder wrote:
I'll take Grand Rapids '06 over the Philly 2005 encore but that's a great one too. I also like:

Footsteps
Once
Alive
State Of Love And Trust
Crown Of Thorns
Leash
Porch

from Gorge I in 2006. Also not as good as Grand Rapids '06 but still great.



Until I got the bootleg of my first show, Gorge 1 06 was always my favorite boot. That encore is the best encore they have done in a long time IMO. It goes beyond what you listed, a killer Go, Dirty Frank, Baba, RITFW, and a YL/Little Wing/SSB close.


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mick7184 wrote:
matt reeder wrote:
I'll take Grand Rapids '06 over the Philly 2005 encore but that's a great one too. I also like:

Footsteps
Once
Alive
State Of Love And Trust
Crown Of Thorns
Leash
Porch

from Gorge I in 2006. Also not as good as Grand Rapids '06 but still great.



Until I got the bootleg of my first show, Gorge 1 06 was always my favorite boot. That encore is the best encore they have done in a long time IMO. It goes beyond what you listed, a killer Go, Dirty Frank, Baba, RITFW, and a YL/Little Wing/SSB close.


I know! It was a fun show to be at. :)

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Some other amazing encores:

3/13/94 Chicago - encore 1
Hard to Imagine, Yellow Ledbetter, Rearviewmirror, Alone, Black/instrumental jam/Porch/(Tearing)

4/12/94 Boston - encore 1
Release, Tremor Christ, Once, Fuckin’ Up, Dirty Frank, Yellow Ledbetter, instrumental jam, Rearviewmirror, Elderly Woman, I’ve Got a Feeling/jam

6/22/00 Milan - encore 1
Nothingman, Sleight of Hand, Better Man, Wishlist, Insignificance, Rearviewmirror, Do The Evolution, Garden, State of Love and Trust, Black

9/05/00 Pittsburgh - encore 1
Breakerfall, Go, Once, Mankind, Elderly Woman, Crazy Mary, Wash, I Got You, Insignificance

10/30/09 Philadelphia - encore 1
Just Breathe w/string quartet, Parting Ways w/string quartet, Jeremy w/string quartet, Breath, Light Years, Rearviewmirror

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