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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:06 pm 
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From Roissy's International Truth Day:

- people will only turn against an alpha male when he attacks a weak woman
- it is open season on weak men who do not know their place. attacking them will raise your status. defending them will lower it
- total honesty can only be accomplished anonymously
- sexually attractive people can get away with more. and they will have more willing apologists excusing their actions
- when confronted with uncomfortable truths, most people will resort to the “cultural conditioning” argument. it is fear of the unchangeable that motivates them
- when a woman praises a man it is more often given with the goal of changing his behavior
- when a man praise a woman it is more often given with the goal of earning her sexual favor
- status is everything; nearly everything in life is best understood through the prism of status wars
- there is a sexual market. it operates under the same basic laws of supply and demand.
- marriage is no escape from the sexual market
- the sexual revolution benefited alpha males the most
- prostitution is dating minus self-serving rationalizations
- prostitutes and sluts undercut the only source of women’s power
- ‘crime causes poverty’ is truer than ‘poverty causes crime’
- young single women will always vote liberal as a rule. big government is a husband and father substitute
- shame is a powerful motivator. it is a dying art in the west
- alimony is ransom
- no-fault divorce is the poison in the well of the institution of marriage
- absent total war or economic meltdown, age of marriage will continue to rise, birthrates will continue to fall, and the percentage of the never-married will increase
- success comes to those whose desire is stronger than their fear
- uncontrolled jealousy is your worst enemy. controlled jealousy your best ally.
- hate is as natural as love. like love, it’s most rewarding to throw yourself into it completely
- love can exist without fidelity
- make love when you can, because it is good
- lenin said it best: who? whom?
- proximity + diversity = war
- good people care more for the death of a pet than they do for 100,000 tsunami victims
- there is no meaning of life except to fuck. it is utter pointlessness. you are a machine designed to serve the interests of recombinant dna
- nerd = fat woman
- celibacy is living death
- effeminate men are detestable
- so are aggressive bitchy women
- the exceptions don’t make the rules
- we are animals
- hurting people is fun
- there’s no god
- there’s no soul
- there’s no karma
- we’re all going to die
- and it’s much later than you think


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Waaaaay too many stereotypes about the sexes for me to even consider to read the whole thing.


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In a sense, the entire concept of "society" is meant to be a counterweight to those "truths".

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i don't get the point of this thread

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- lenin said it best: who? whom?

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dscans wrote:
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- lenin said it best: who? whom?

I am the walrus

You're out of your element.

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Yeah, pretty terrible list. As bad as many of them are, I think my favorite is
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hate is as natural as love. like love, it’s most rewarding to throw yourself into it completely

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Yeah, pretty terrible list. As bad as many of them are, I think my favorite is
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hate is as natural as love. like love, it’s most rewarding to throw yourself into it completely

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aprilfifth wrote:
Yeah, pretty terrible list. As bad as many of them are, I think my favorite is
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hate is as natural as love. like love, it’s most rewarding to throw yourself into it completely



You don't think that is true? I think that real bigots get far more personal satisfaction out of their ignorant thoughts than your average forum troll casual racist.

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Can we just lock this fucking thread already?

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hurting people is fun

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This is the only one I don't think is grounded in some dark truth. I don't get it, but I didn't write the list so...

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I'm surprised no one has mentioned that a good peron cares more about the death of a beloved pet, than 100,000 dead in a tsunami. To hell with everyone else, someone close to ME has died! I mean, that's'probably natural, but why would it make you a good person?
I'd'like to know the reason behind some of the author's'thoughts


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Was the person that wrote this, like, fifteen years old?


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Fortuna69 wrote:
I'm surprised no one has mentioned that a good peron cares more about the death of a beloved pet, than 100,000 dead in a tsunami. To hell with everyone else, someone close to ME has died! I mean, that's'probably natural, but why would it make you a good person?
I'd'like to know the reason behind some of the author's'thoughts



See i dont think he is saying to BE a good person you care more about your dog.

i think he is saying that plenty of good people care more about their dog.


there are plenty of truths on the list, but they also are pretty obvious and am not really sure why they needed to be stated or mixed amoung vaguely racist, sexist, and just generally bigoted statements.


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Skitch Patterson wrote:
Fortuna69 wrote:
I'm surprised no one has mentioned that a good peron cares more about the death of a beloved pet, than 100,000 dead in a tsunami. To hell with everyone else, someone close to ME has died! I mean, that's'probably natural, but why would it make you a good person?
I'd'like to know the reason behind some of the author's'thoughts



See i dont think he is saying to BE a good person you care more about your dog.

i think he is saying that plenty of good people care more about their dog.


there are plenty of truths on the list, but they also are pretty obvious and am not really sure why they needed to be stated or mixed amoung vaguely racist, sexist, and just generally bigoted statements.

Some of it is pretty obvious and some of it is just utter bullshit. I needed to read a few times before i realised. :embarrassed:


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broken iris wrote:
aprilfifth wrote:
Yeah, pretty terrible list. As bad as many of them are, I think my favorite is
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hate is as natural as love. like love, it’s most rewarding to throw yourself into it completely



You don't think that is true? I think that real bigots get far more personal satisfaction out of their ignorant thoughts than your average forum troll casual racist.


I would think the opposite is true.




What was racist about any of these "truths"?


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from what I can tell, the vast majority of these ugly truths come out of mankind evolving as a hierarchical society.
taking these one at a time:

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- people will only turn against an alpha male when he attacks a weak woman

one hopes people will turn against any type of man that attacks any type of woman...
and in msot cases, vice-versa- strictly speaking in terms of violent behavior, otherwise I think men and women are both pretty evenly intellectually equipped to deal with verbal attacks from eachother.

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- it is open season on weak men who do not know their place. attacking them will raise your status. defending them will lower it

He's talking about chimps, yeah? I dunno - is it ok to attack a guy who's mentally retarded? Does that raise another guy's status?

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- total honesty can only be accomplished anonymously

If you're a coward, or have no integrity... let's say, total honesty can only be accomplished anonymously if you don't want to deal with the consequences of being totally honest.

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- sexually attractive people can get away with more. and they will have more willing apologists excusing their actions

um, ya. So did this guy just turn on the TV for the first time when he came up with this one? I mean, how ugly of a truth is that in a society where sex is used to sell everything from toothpaste to health insurance... This one should have gone into his list of obvious truths instead of ugly truths.

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- when confronted with uncomfortable truths, most people will resort to the “cultural conditioning” argument. it is fear of the unchangeable that motivates them

I don't even understand this one. Maybe it's a result of my fear of the unchangeable...

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- when a woman praises a man it is more often given with the goal of changing his behavior

when a woman does pretty much anything positive for a man it's with the goal of changing his behavior for fuck sake.

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- when a man praise a woman it is more often given with the goal of earning her sexual favor

when a man does pretty much anything positive for a woman it's with the goal of earning her sexual favor for fuck sake.

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- status is everything; nearly everything in life is best understood through the prism of status wars

yes, welcome to humanity, nice to meet you, pal.

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- there is a sexual market. it operates under the same basic laws of supply and demand
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ditto

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- marriage is no escape from the sexual market

ditto

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- the sexual revolution benefited alpha males the most

the sexual revolution benefitted everyone until it didn't anymore.

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- prostitution is dating minus self-serving rationalizations

maybe he just completed a divorce from a bitter and loveless marriage when he wrote this.

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- prostitutes and sluts undercut the only source of women’s power

yes, because womens' only source of power is obviously their cunt and their ability to obtain power through the discretionary use of it...

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- ‘crime causes poverty’ is truer than ‘poverty causes crime’

I'd say this guy votes Republican more often than not, in which case, crime causes great wealth and power. heh.

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- young single women will always vote liberal as a rule. big government is a husband and father substitute

no, idiot, big government is a mommy subsititute. didn't you learn anything in psych 101?
young single women will vote liberal because it most increases their chances of obtaining more power in the society. (and "always as a rule" is something of an oxymoron)

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- shame is a powerful motivator. it is a dying art in the west

guilt is a powerful motivator- which is related so I'll let that one go for now. And it's a dying art all over the world.

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- alimony is ransom
- no-fault divorce is the poison in the well of the institution of marriage

both of these fall into the bitter divorce theory I mention above.

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- absent total war or economic meltdown, age of marriage will continue to rise, birthrates will continue to fall, and the percentage of the never-married will increase

this is something of a blessing considering there's something like 8 billion people populating the world right now.

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- success comes to those whose desire is stronger than their fear

success comes to those whose desire is stronger than pretty much any other motivation they may have, not just fear.

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- uncontrolled jealousy is your worst enemy. controlled jealousy your best ally.

any type of jealousy is really just one of humanity's more basic instincts run wild- which in most cases is going to be more dangerous than one kept under control.

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- hate is as natural as love. like love, it’s most rewarding to throw yourself into it completely

more rewarding? really? wow - who knew that the accompanying physical side effects of hate like high blood pressure, heart conditions, ulcers, cancers, headaches/migraines etc would be more rewarding?

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- love can exist without fidelity

maybe for one of the two people in love, anyway....

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- make love when you can, because it is good

not such an ungly truth, unless of course the rule above this one is part of his idea here...

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- lenin said it best: who? whom?

yeah, what?


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- proximity + diversity = war

proximity + diversity can also equal more diversity. This statement means nothing without context.

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- good people care more for the death of a pet than they do for 100,000 tsunami victims

all people care more for the death of a pet than 100,000 tsunami victims seeing as how our brains are still the same as they were 10,000 years ago when our world view was only as extended as the size of our village.

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- there is no meaning of life except to fuck. it is utter pointlessness. you are a machine designed to serve the interests of recombinant dna

there is no meaning to life except that which each person decides to place in it. fucking is good, but I doubt anyone could base 85 some odd years of their lives around it and be completely happy, know what I mean?

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- nerd = fat woman

because good looking men are never smart and skinny women are always fuckable?

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- celibacy is living death

yes, Ghandi agrees.

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- effeminate men are detestable

because they bring about your latent homosexual tendencies that you're too much of a pussy to admit to?

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- so are aggressive bitchy women

because they threaten that thin veneer of male dominance you struggle so hard to keep up? ...and I kind of admire how he uses aggressive and bitchy together like they natually go together in reference to women, smart guy.

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- the exceptions don’t make the rules

the rules are set up to handle or explain most cases of an incident, however, since we are not robots, they cannot logically cover all cases, and therefore are not meant to define the exception, only a general trend.

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- we are animals

well... at least this one I agree with.

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- hurting people is fun

oh, see- and just when I was agreeing with you- you had to go an ruin it with this one.

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- there’s no god
- there’s no soul
- there’s no karma
- we’re all going to die

was c_b involved in writing this, perhaps?

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- and it’s much later than you think

so, you're a middle aged, recently divorced man who isn't excelling in his job or his life as much as you feel you should and have finally found a way to rationalize all your anger at the world for not giving you what you think you deserve simply because you're a man, yeah?




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In a sense, the entire concept of "society" is meant to be a counterweight to those "truths".


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hurting people is fun. watching other people get hurt too. just think about an America's Funniest Videos ballsmash showcase. and the concept of ball tapping.

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