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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:01 am 
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This is the thread where we talk about the real stinkbombs. Why? What happened? What made it suck? Even a band as amazing as Pearl Jam lays an egg every now and then.

The one I remember was Chicago 2003. I had such high hopes but when Ed came out it was plainly obvious he was really sick. Musically the band is pretty on but on the whole the show was just off. The setlist was cool (Release, Light Years, Grievance, Present Tense, Arc) but the encores were pretty predictable and not very inspired. Easily the worst of the seven shows I've been to.

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There are more than a few stinkers from the 2003 Australian tour. I first got really into PJ just after the 1998 Aus tour finished (why couldn't it have been a coupla months earlier, why! :cry:) so you could imagine how pumped I was to finally see my favourite band live come 2003.

From the opening flubbed first verse of Small Town, the Melbourne shows I saw in 03 never came even half-way close to reaching the standards I'd hoped for after years of spinning 2000 boots. They just sounded... flat. It took until the Japan leg for them to get their groove on and the US tour speaks for itself.

Looking back over those setlists, they were made of the stuff we'd drool over these days (Sleight of Hand, Breath, Rival, Footsteps) but the uninspired way in which they were performed unfortunately left me a tad disappointed. Needless to all was forgiven after seeing the boys on the 2006 tour :bammer:

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set: Elderly Woman, Interstellar Overdrive/Corduroy, Save You, Given To Fly, Cropduster, Nothing As It Seems, Even Flow, I Am Mine, Love Boat Captain, Lukin/Not For You, Light Years, You Are, Daughter/(Another Brick In The Wall), I Got Shit, 1/2 Full, Once, Blood
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set: Can’t Keep, Breakerfall, Save You, Ghost, Dissident, Elderly Woman, Corduroy, Even Flow, Love Boat Captain, I Am Mine, Thumbing My Way, Wishlist, Better Man, Rival, Whipping, Insignificance, Porch
enc 1: Do The Evolution, Know Your Rights, Breath, Footsteps, Rearviewmirror
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I thought the first US leg in 2006 was pretty mediocre, they really didn't get cooking til the West Coast shows and were on fire through Europe and Australia. I'm convinced the reason that tour gets so little love is that none of the East Coast fanboys saw any of the great shows that year.


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The entire 2003 aussie tour...sorry aussie friends... :oops:

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The entire 2003 aussie tour...sorry aussie friends... :oops:

No apology necessary - those boots are terrible.

I've never really felt bad about missing Adelaide 2003.


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Philly 3

(Ouch! That one hurt, didn't it fanboys?)


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Cameronia wrote:
Philly 3

(Ouch! That one hurt, didn't it fanboys?)

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 Post subject: Re: Worst shows since the bootleg era.
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spenno wrote:
I thought the first US leg in 2006 was pretty mediocre


I disagree. There were plenty of amazing US leg shows that I thought overall made a bigger impression on me than most of the Europe/Australia shows. Grand Rapids/Cleveland/Detroit is an amazing trio.

If I would pick a pretty lousy bootleg from recent memory, it would be Philly II. They were so sloppy in the middle I thought they needed an early encore break. The Evacuation-Come Back-No Way part is very difficult to listen to.


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djerdap wrote:
spenno wrote:
I thought the first US leg in 2006 was pretty mediocre

If I would pick a pretty lousy bootleg from recent memory, it would be Philly II. They were so sloppy in the middle I thought they needed an early encore break. The Evacuation-Come Back-No Way part is very difficult to listen to.


Night 2 was indeed pretty bad, but I think Deep>Habit>Cropduster from night 3 is even more horrifying. They must have been really, really drunk judging by how badly they played. It's certainly not the brilliant moment that people who were there make it out to be.


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Cameronia wrote:
djerdap wrote:
spenno wrote:
I thought the first US leg in 2006 was pretty mediocre

If I would pick a pretty lousy bootleg from recent memory, it would be Philly II. They were so sloppy in the middle I thought they needed an early encore break. The Evacuation-Come Back-No Way part is very difficult to listen to.


Night 2 was indeed pretty bad, but I think Deep>Habit>Cropduster from night 3 is even more horrifying. They must have been really, really drunk judging by how badly they played. It's certainly not the brilliant moment that people who were there make it out to be.

Yeah I've come to terms with the fact that the Philly run was rather underwhelming. Except for Philly 3's encore 1.

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Habit sounds like total ass in Eb. What a letdown. At least they redeemed Deep in Melbourne with a kickass performance.

I'm surprised nobody here has mentioned 2008. That might be the sloppiest tour I've ever heard from them.

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cutuphalfdead wrote:
Cameronia wrote:
djerdap wrote:
spenno wrote:
I thought the first US leg in 2006 was pretty mediocre

If I would pick a pretty lousy bootleg from recent memory, it would be Philly II. They were so sloppy in the middle I thought they needed an early encore break. The Evacuation-Come Back-No Way part is very difficult to listen to.


Night 2 was indeed pretty bad, but I think Deep>Habit>Cropduster from night 3 is even more horrifying. They must have been really, really drunk judging by how badly they played. It's certainly not the brilliant moment that people who were there make it out to be.

Yeah I've come to terms with the fact that the Philly run was rather underwhelming. Except for Philly 3's encore 1.


I think that as a whole, it was very good. As stand alone shows though, 3 stands out some but the others are just good, not great. 4 is kind of a mess even though some of the rarities are great, and one and two are just kind of run of the mill shows.


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I was going to mention Philly, but I felt I'd done it to death already...

matt reeder wrote:
I'm surprised nobody here has mentioned 2008. That might be the sloppiest tour I've ever heard from them.

Yeah, 2008 was bad. I was really bummed out after hearing those boots, it was like they just didn't care at all.


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mick7184 wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Cameronia wrote:
djerdap wrote:
spenno wrote:
I thought the first US leg in 2006 was pretty mediocre

If I would pick a pretty lousy bootleg from recent memory, it would be Philly II. They were so sloppy in the middle I thought they needed an early encore break. The Evacuation-Come Back-No Way part is very difficult to listen to.


Night 2 was indeed pretty bad, but I think Deep>Habit>Cropduster from night 3 is even more horrifying. They must have been really, really drunk judging by how badly they played. It's certainly not the brilliant moment that people who were there make it out to be.

Yeah I've come to terms with the fact that the Philly run was rather underwhelming. Except for Philly 3's encore 1.


I think that as a whole, it was very good. As stand alone shows though, 3 stands out some but the others are just good, not great. 4 is kind of a mess even though some of the rarities are great, and one and two are just kind of run of the mill shows.

Yeah, this.

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spenno wrote:
I was going to mention Philly, but I felt I'd done it to death already...

matt reeder wrote:
I'm surprised nobody here has mentioned 2008. That might be the sloppiest tour I've ever heard from them.

Yeah, 2008 was bad. I was really bummed out after hearing those boots, it was like they just didn't care at all.


The two shows I saw had a good combination of setlists/performances - Camden 1 and Mansfield 1

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