Board index » Watched from the Window, with a Red Mosquito... » Pearl Jam




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 109 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Pearl Jam: Surefire Rock And Roll Hall of Famer (MTV.com)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:22 am 
Offline
Johnny Guitar
 Profile

Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:02 am
Posts: 173
Gender: Male
From here.

Quote:
Pearl Jam, Radiohead And Nine Other Surefire Rock And Roll Hall Of Famers
Green Day, Kid Rock and Coldplay also seem like locks for the Hall, in Bigger Than the Sound.

By James Montgomery (@positivnegativ)

On Tuesday, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame unveiled the nominees for induction in 2011, a list that's as inspiring (Beastie Boys! Tom Waits! Dr. John!) as it is mystifying (LL Cool J?).

Not surprisingly, this year's noms sparked a whole lot of debate — because kvetching about the Rock Hall is an exercise as old as the Hall itself — and for most of the day, I was ready to lend my voice to the argument. After all, any Hall of Fame that does not include among its ranks the likes of Kiss, Rush, Cheap Trick or Def Leppard (or even Joy Division, the Replacements, Hüsker Dü, the Minutemen or Black Flag, for that matter) but does include Madonna is no Hall of mine.

But then, I decided to do something completely different. Rather than complain about all the bands the Rock Hall — and its nebulous voting committee — have snubbed, I decided to focus instead on all the bands it will someday embrace. Ignoring surefire inductees like Guns N' Roses (eligible next year!) and Nirvana, I compiled a list of 11 active bands I truly believe will one day take their rightful place alongside greats like the Beatles, the Rolling Stones and, uh, Traffic. This was a lot tougher to do than you could possibly imagine, since, you know, the state of rock is rather dire these days (let's just say I don't see Nickelback striding to the podium in 2021), but here are my picks, ranked in order of probability.

And while I feel pretty strongly about my list, if the Rock Hall has proven anything over the years, it's that this whole thing is a total crapshoot. So, if I missed anyone, let me know in the comments below. Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got to put on my dragon boots and join my fellow Kiss Army soldiers in our yearly protest outside the Rock Hall. It's not as bad as you might think. Cleveland is lovely this time of year ...

1. Pearl Jam
A mortal lock for first-ballot induction. Thanks to their longevity, ingenuity and morality, PJ became not only the greatest band to emerge from the Seattle scene of the early '90s, but probably the greatest American band of the past two decades. They've fought the good fights (taking on Ticketmaster, George W. Bush, the pro-life movement and world hunger, to name just a few), moved the required units and even threw the tapers a bone too. And through it all, Eddie Vedder has pretty much never cut his hair, except for that one time he inducted the Ramones into the Rock Hall. And even then, he had a Mohawk. That's pretty awesome.
First Year of Eligibility: 2016

2. Radiohead
Take everything I just said about Pearl Jam (except for the "Seattle" and "American" bits) and apply it here too. Since they first emerged on the scene with their unlikely alt-rock hit "Creep," Radiohead have pushed the boundaries further — and with greater fervor — than any of their major-label contemporaries, exploring space prog (OK Computer), avant electro (Kid A) and even, well, straight-ahead rock (In Rainbows). In the process, they've carved out a niche that is uniquely theirs, and when they're inducted, they'll instantly become, like, the fourth weirdest band in the Hall, behind Zappa, the Velvets and the Talking Heads. At least until Sun Ra is voted in.
First Year of Eligibility: 2017

3. Green Day
Up until American Idiot, there wasn't a chance they'd make it. But thanks to that album's globe-uniting success (and social import), Green Day are an unquestionable first-ballot selection. They've got the catalog, the critical love and the kind of career that doesn't come around all that often — one that actually had a fruitful second act. And through it all, they've never been afraid to take a stance or reach unabashedly for the stars. Or launch a Broadway play, for that matter. What will the punx at 924 Gillman have to say when Green Day are inducted? Who cares, really.
First Year of Eligibility: 2014

4. Kid Rock
For real. Bob Ritchie has had the kind of career that defies explanation, stomping through hip-hop, rock and even country, and in the process, he's sold roughly a bajillion records and become a rather unlikely American classic. It doesn't hurt matters that Rock Hall co-founder Jann Wenner is a fan, or that, by working with the likes of Bob Seger and Rick Rubin, Rock has developed the kind of pedigree the Hall is looking for. And with his upcoming Born Free album, he seems to be entering the "serious artist" phase of his career, which only bodes well for his enshrinement.
First Year of Eligibility: 2015

5. Coldplay
Dude, if Genesis can make it in, these guys can too.
First Year of Eligibility: 2023

6. Phish
The Grateful Dead made it in 1994. Phish will make it in 2013 (and the Dave Matthews Band will probably follow them in 2018). For the better part of two decades, they've not only been America's premier live act (don't call them a "jam band"), but they've released a stream of albums that — quiet as it's kept — are actually pretty great. Along the way, they've fashioned the kind of career that's practically beyond summation, though in a pinch, you can probably call them the musical bridge between bands like the Dead and current long-players like My Morning Jacket. And when they do make it in, the jam session will be mighty, indeed.
First Year of Eligibility: 2013

7. Beck
Here's where the list starts to get a bit shaky. Ten years ago, thanks to efforts like Odelay and Sea Change, Beck was a first-ballot selection, the much-fetishized heir to Bob Dylan's throne (only with better mic skillz). In the years since, however, he's seemingly lost a bit of his HOF luster, yet he's still active, and I'm not willing to knock him off the list just yet. He has the back catalog part sewn up, and he's about as close as a figurehead for the WTF DIY FTW 1990s as anyone I can think of, and with another solid album, he's a lock.
First Year of Eligibility: 2017

8. The White Stripes
They're not exactly active, but ever since 2007's Icky Thump, Jack White has single-handedly carried the mantle for the Stripes, and, in the process, he may very well have sewn up their enshrinement. Equal parts bluesman and shaman, he's about as close to a genuine guitar god as this generation has, and the fact that he's none too shy about praising all those dusty guitar-slingers who came before him has certainly earned him more favor in the eyes of HOF voters. Whoever they are.
First Year of Eligibility: 2024

9. Kings of Leon
They've gone about things the way great rock bands are supposed to: releasing a string of critically acclaimed (but commercially vapid) albums, building a fervent fanbase overseas, touring tirelessly and, finally, breaking through to the mainstream. As scions of the great Southern rockers of the past, they carry with them an air of mysticism too, which goes a long way with voters hungry for the rock of yesteryear. Toss in the Wenner factor (he loves them), and, so long as they keep churning out the hits, they're in.
First Year of Eligibility: 2028

10a. Sonic Youth
They're basically the Bert Blylevens of rock: a career that justly deserves enshrinement, yet lacking the groundswell support to make it into the Hall. That's bound to change one of these years, probably when voters realize that Sonic Youth are arguably the most important American rock band of the past three decades, anti-commercial artistes who, somewhat inexplicably, have managed to survive and thrive despite that fact. Their uncompromising ethos has made them figureheads of the indie movement, and their unyielding, effortless cool have made them the band that everyone aspires to be. Surely, all of that is enough to get them into the Hall.
First Year of Eligibility: 2007

10b. The Flaming Lips
Kind of like Sonic Youth, only with an actual hit or three to their names. Perhaps the fact that they've never really been embraced by the critical elite is what's holding them back, though that's generally what happens when you play shows encased inside an inflatable sphere. Ever since forming in Oklahoma City in 1983, they've undergone so many career transformations that they basically defy definition, though it's not exactly a stretch to call them the most proletarian rock band of our time. They do it all, on their own terms, and by whatever means necessary. And, if last year's Embryonic is any indication, they're just hitting their stride. At this rate, they may never stop swerving, which probably means you can look for them to be inducted sometime around 2055.
First Year Of Eligibility: 2009

Who did we miss? Share your surefire Rock Hall inductees in the comments


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam: Surefire Rock And Roll Hall of Famer (MTV.com)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:29 pm 
Offline
User avatar
AnalLog
 Profile

Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:36 pm
Posts: 25824
Location: south jersey
not to be a total fanboy, but yeah i think its a given pj will be in

_________________
Feel the path of every day,... Which road you taking?,...


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam: Surefire Rock And Roll Hall of Famer (MTV.com)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:55 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Yeah Yeah Yeah
 Profile

Joined: Tue May 30, 2006 2:48 pm
Posts: 3115
Location: Edinburgh/Lincoln, UK
PJ is a given.

I can't believe Sonic Youth aren't already in there. Flaming Lips deserve a spot.

Kid Rock is a joke.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam: Surefire Rock And Roll Hall of Famer (MTV.com)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:58 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Global Moderator
 Profile

Joined: Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:02 am
Posts: 44183
Location: New York
Gender: Male
that's an interesting article. The kid rock thing makes me sad though.

_________________
"Better the occasional faults of a Government that lives in a spirit of charity than the consistent omissions of a Government frozen in the ice of its own indifference."--FDR

The perfect gift for certain occasions


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam: Surefire Rock And Roll Hall of Famer (MTV.com)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:12 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Unthought Known
 Profile

Joined: Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:02 pm
Posts: 6405
Location: DC
Gender: Male
iceagecoming wrote:

Kid Rock is a joke.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam: Surefire Rock And Roll Hall of Famer (MTV.com)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:16 pm 
Offline
User avatar
AnalLog
 Profile

Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:36 pm
Posts: 25824
Location: south jersey
Image

_________________
Feel the path of every day,... Which road you taking?,...


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam: Surefire Rock And Roll Hall of Famer (MTV.com)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:21 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Former PJ Drummer
 Profile

Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:16 pm
Posts: 19724
Location: Montreal, QC
Gender: Male
i find the writer's use of ! annoying as shit

_________________
chud wrote:
Posting! Glorious Posting!

durdencommatyler wrote:
iPones, man. Fuck.


Proud member of: Team Binaural and Team Argo


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam: Surefire Rock And Roll Hall of Famer (MTV.com)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:18 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Father Bitch
 Profile

Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:20 am
Posts: 5198
Location: Connecticut
Gender: Male
Of the bands on that list, I think Pearl Jam, Radiohead, Green Day, and Phish are the only "sure-fire" R&R HOF inductees. I can't believe he didn't reserve a spot for DMB as well, even though he did mention them.

I'm not saying the others won't make it, just that I don't they're a given.

_________________
...


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam: Surefire Rock And Roll Hall of Famer (MTV.com)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:24 pm 
Offline
User avatar
AnalLog
 Profile

Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:36 pm
Posts: 25824
Location: south jersey
he really should have put dmb in place of phish

_________________
Feel the path of every day,... Which road you taking?,...


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam: Surefire Rock And Roll Hall of Famer (MTV.com)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:33 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Father Bitch
 Profile

Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:20 am
Posts: 5198
Location: Connecticut
Gender: Male
warehouse wrote:
he really should have put dmb in place of phish


Eh, I dunno. I love DMB and HATE Phish, but I think they're both a lock. They should have been next to eachother in the upper half of the list.

_________________
...


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam: Surefire Rock And Roll Hall of Famer (MTV.com)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:58 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Founding Bitch
 Profile

Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:09 pm
Posts: 13868
Location: Norn Iron
LL Cool J? Really?

_________________
Wilderness 1:49-2:04. Diamond Dust.

Window Washer's Dream - Planet Sonata's Intension


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam: Surefire Rock And Roll Hall of Famer (MTV.com)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:18 pm 
Offline
User avatar
AnalLog
 Profile

Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:36 pm
Posts: 25824
Location: south jersey
Juvenal wrote:
LL Cool J? Really?

mama said knock you out alone makes him hall worthy

_________________
Feel the path of every day,... Which road you taking?,...


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam: Surefire Rock And Roll Hall of Famer (MTV.com)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:53 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Unthought Known
 Profile

Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:52 pm
Posts: 8288
2016? i thought they were supposed to get in earlier than that.

_________________
Sweep the leg!


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam: Surefire Rock And Roll Hall of Famer (MTV.com)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:56 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Team Binaural
 WWW  Profile

Joined: Wed May 24, 2006 5:23 pm
Posts: 12793
Location: Tours, FR
Gender: Male
bmacsmith wrote:
2016? i thought they were supposed to get in earlier than that.


25 years after your first release
which is stupid since if you're really worthy of being labelled "rock and roll" you don't live that long to begin with

_________________
There has never been a silence like this before


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam: Surefire Rock And Roll Hall of Famer (MTV.com)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:03 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Got Some
 YIM  Profile

Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:21 am
Posts: 1909
Location: The Jungle
How is Nirvana an automatic shoe in, but Pearl Jam isnt? well I guess he said they are, but to me, Nirvana and Pearl Jam are like the Beatles and Stones, but too too many critics put Nirvana up on this holy pedistal then seem to remember a few mins later, oh yeah, that other band...

I dont know if the White Stripes will get in, but id imagine Jack White is a lock in some form.
id put Soundgarden above most on that list, and id also say Smashing Pumpkins, and the Chili Peppers (or did they get in already? havnt really kept up on that hall of shame)

_________________
I am the king of the Jungle, they call me Tigerman


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam: Surefire Rock And Roll Hall of Famer (MTV.com)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:13 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Former PJ Drummer
 WWW  Profile

Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:00 am
Posts: 16093
Location: dublin
Gender: Male
Industry circle jerk and kinda pointless and if anything its the official tolling of the 'your band are officially now past it' bell. Still wanna see Pj get in though. Sometimes I think they kinda always crave their 'superiors' approval and Theyve been hangin round just to get in there. Itll be weird to see what newbie annoying bastard upstart they get to induct them.

Is LL Cool J getting in something to do with affirmative action? Hes not rock n roll.

_________________
At the end of the day, it's night.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam: Surefire Rock And Roll Hall of Famer (MTV.com)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:19 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Unthought Known
 Profile

Joined: Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:02 pm
Posts: 6405
Location: DC
Gender: Male
dimejinky99 wrote:
Industry circle jerk and kinda pointless and if anything its the official tolling of the 'your band are officially now past it' bell. Still wanna see Pj get in though. Sometimes I think they kinda always crave their 'superiors' approval and Theyve been hangin round just to get in there. Itll be weird to see what newbie annoying bastard upstart they get to induct them.

Is LL Cool J getting in something to do with affirmative action? Hes not rock n roll.


Run-DMC got in a few years back, opening the door for hip-hop. I think Public Enemy got in too, but I'm not sure.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam: Surefire Rock And Roll Hall of Famer (MTV.com)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:24 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Former PJ Drummer
 WWW  Profile

Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:00 am
Posts: 16093
Location: dublin
Gender: Male
The revolution will be pasturised and homogenised. Yawn.


Radiohead are far too cool to accept an induction to this. They wont take part in this.

_________________
At the end of the day, it's night.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam: Surefire Rock And Roll Hall of Famer (MTV.com)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:34 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Unthought Known
 Profile

Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:52 pm
Posts: 8288
well hopefully the world will end before 2016.

_________________
Sweep the leg!


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam: Surefire Rock And Roll Hall of Famer (MTV.com)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:11 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Global Moderator
 Profile

Joined: Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:02 am
Posts: 44183
Location: New York
Gender: Male
it's impossible for an organization that has to encompass what this has to encompass, especially in an area where there aren't really hard and fast stats that can be used for judgment, to please everyone. But I like that an organization exists that honors and rewards music history

_________________
"Better the occasional faults of a Government that lives in a spirit of charity than the consistent omissions of a Government frozen in the ice of its own indifference."--FDR

The perfect gift for certain occasions


Top
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 109 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next

Board index » Watched from the Window, with a Red Mosquito... » Pearl Jam


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 14 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
It is currently Sun Jul 06, 2025 3:56 pm