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 Post subject: Abortion Doctor Charged With Killing 7 Babies + Woman
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What a story

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/20/us/20 ... tml?src=me

Doctor Is Charged in Killing of Newborns
By SABRINA TAVERNISE
An abortion doctor who served minority and immigrant women in his clinic in Philadelphia was charged with multiple counts of murder on Wednesday in the deaths of a woman and seven newborn babies whose spinal cords had been cut with scissors, the district attorney’s office said.

Prosecutors charged Dr. Kermit Gosnell, 69, with eight counts of murder in the deaths of Karnamaya Mongar, 41, a refugee from Nepal, who received high doses of anesthetic for an illegal late-term abortion performed in 2009 and of seven infants who were born, killed and then disposed of in Dr. Gosnell’s West Philadelphia clinic, the Women’s Medical Society.

Prosecutors laid out their case in a 281-page grand jury document that read like a grisly script. Plastic bags and mineral water bottles holding aborted fetuses were found stashed in Dr. Gosnell’s clinic. Jars containing the severed feet of babies lined a shelf, the Philadelphia district attorney, Seth Williams, said in a statement.

Dr. Gosnell, a family practitioner who was not certified in obstetrics, performed late-term abortions, after 24 weeks, which are illegal, and employed staff members who were not trained medical professionals, including a teenage girl, prosecutors said. Nine of his employees were also charged.

“It is very important to remember that Dr. Gosnell is presumed innocent,” a lawyer for Dr. Gosnell, William J. Brennan, said. “I would hope there is not a rush to judgment and that he has an opportunity to review this very lengthy charging document.”

In the grand jury document, prosecutors called Dr. Gosnell’s clinic “a baby charnel house,” riddled with fetal remains and reeking of cat urine, with furniture and blankets stained with blood. Medical equipment was broken and supplies were reused.

“The real business of the ‘Women’s Medical Society’ was not health, it was profit,” the document stated. It detailed a practice of selling prescription painkillers during the day, and at night, performing abortions for cash for women who could not get them elsewhere because they were too pregnant.

When labor was induced and a baby was born, Dr. Gosnell would kill it by cutting into its neck and severing its spinal cord in a process he referred to as “snipping.” In one case involving a 17-year-old who was 30 weeks pregnant, prosecutors said, Dr. Gosnell induced labor, severed the fetus’s spine and put the body in a shoe box. “The doctor joked that the baby was so big, ‘he could walk me to the bus stop,’ ” the document said.


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Dr. Kermit Gosnell, 69, made millions of dollars over 30 years, performing as many illegal, late-term abortions as he could, prosecutors said. State regulators ignored complaints about him and failed to inspect his clinic since 1993, but no charges were warranted against them given time limits and existing law, District Attorney Seth Williams said. Nine of Gosnell's employees also were charged


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we should send this guy to sub-saharan africa.

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yeah this is gross and all over the news here.

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this shit is unholy.
just watched a video on CNN with a report that said he had jars of baby parts in the same fridge that the staff kept their lunch in.

his clinic has been in operation for 30 years.

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These are the types of crimes where having a third-world country's punishment system in place would be useful.

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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
These are the types of crimes where having a third-world country's punishment system in place would be useful.

And what about white-collar crimes that cost millions of people, and those dependent on them, their livelihood and homes?

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corduroy_blazer wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
These are the types of crimes where having a third-world country's punishment system in place would be useful.

And what about white-collar crimes that cost millions of people, and those dependent on them, their livelihood and homes?

I'm not quite sure what this post was trying to achieve.

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thodoks wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
These are the types of crimes where having a third-world country's punishment system in place would be useful.

And what about white-collar crimes that cost millions of people, and those dependent on them, their livelihood and homes?

I'm not quite sure what this post was trying to achieve.

Differences in desired justice for crimes that might be, in consequence, hard to tell apart in their horror.

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corduroy_blazer wrote:
thodoks wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
These are the types of crimes where having a third-world country's punishment system in place would be useful.

And what about white-collar crimes that cost millions of people, and those dependent on them, their livelihood and homes?

I'm not quite sure what this post was trying to achieve.

Differences in desired justice for crimes that might be, in consequence, hard to tell apart in their horror.

Predatory lending is to you as horrible as severing the spine of a fetus?

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thodoks wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
thodoks wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
These are the types of crimes where having a third-world country's punishment system in place would be useful.

And what about white-collar crimes that cost millions of people, and those dependent on them, their livelihood and homes?

I'm not quite sure what this post was trying to achieve.

Differences in desired justice for crimes that might be, in consequence, hard to tell apart in their horror.

Predatory lending is to you as horrible as severing the spine of a fetus?

From what I read, some of them were actual fucking babies.

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cutuphalfdead wrote:
thodoks wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
thodoks wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
These are the types of crimes where having a third-world country's punishment system in place would be useful.

And what about white-collar crimes that cost millions of people, and those dependent on them, their livelihood and homes?

I'm not quite sure what this post was trying to achieve.

Differences in desired justice for crimes that might be, in consequence, hard to tell apart in their horror.

Predatory lending is to you as horrible as severing the spine of a fetus?

From what I read, some of them were actual fucking babies.


Yah, I mean I hate white collar criminals as much as the next guy but jesus christ ceebs...this guy is the anti-christ.

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corduroy_blazer wrote:
thodoks wrote:
corduroy_blazer wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
These are the types of crimes where having a third-world country's punishment system in place would be useful.

And what about white-collar crimes that cost millions of people, and those dependent on them, their livelihood and homes?

I'm not quite sure what this post was trying to achieve.

Differences in desired justice for crimes that might be, in consequence, hard to tell apart in their horror.

Actually, cb, I'd probably be down for 10 lashes of the cane for assholes that rip me off. I mean, apparently I can't make a punishment comment related to this crime without it turning into a discussion about the whole penal system, amirite?

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given2trade wrote:
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hey Matt, how are you?

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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
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hey Matt, how are you?


My spine hasn't been cut with a pair of scissors so I think pretty well, all things considered. Thanks for asking ;)

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