both are brutal sports that have no place in a civilized country.
i don't know what it says about Americans, including myself. But, I enjoy watching two guys kick the crap out of each other. I think its just part of our human culture.
bunch of my friends love this shit... too brutal for my tastes... something about seeing a guy getting the shit kicked out of him turns my stomach...
oh... and im not saying you're wrong, but i'd be tempted to call bullshit on the "safer than boxing" thought... do tell...
off the top of my head:
Boxers suffer many more blows the head. If someone punches you with a bare fist 4 or fives in the face, the chances are you going to get knocked out much faster. With boxing you can a fight a full 12( ?) rounds of shots to the head. Plus, boxers throw a lot of punches to the head as opposed to the face. Blows to the head will damage the brain. In UFC you'll break your hand if you keep hitting someone in the head. So they hit more in the face which is less damaging to the brain. Sure, it looks a lot worse seeing a guy with a busted lip or a bloody face. Thats were boxing is decieving. Most of the damage cannot be seen. And also UFC features a lot of grappling. Grapplers and jujitsu fighters may only throw a few punches a match. Ofcourse there are other circumstances, but yes, for the most part i do believe boxing is more dangerous. Now, this is just from my head. I will research a better source and post it.
According to the American Medical Association Council on Medical Affairs, boxing deaths occur at the rate of 0.13 per 1,000 participants a year, not out of line with other high-risk sports such as motorcycle racing, parachuting or hang gliding. In two editorials published in the January 14, 1983, edition of the "Journal of the American Medical Association," the AMA says about three of every four boxers who have had more than 20 professional bouts show some brain deterioration. "It's not just the deaths but the chronic brain damage that is so frequent," said Dr. George Lundberg, editor of the Journal of the American Medical Association. "The main point is that blows to the head damage the brain."
High incidence of chronic brain damage in the non-heavyweight categories, all because of repeated blows, often over 12 rounds of 3 minutes each! UFC events have none of these characteristics. In Ultimate Fighting there are no rounds, therefore, combatants cannot take a breather every 3 minutes to come out fresh and swinging repeatedly. This single factor is enough to reduce the risk of serious injury by a wide margin. In most cases, even the fittest athletes cannot muster up enough strength to be a serious threat after a few minutes of continuous action. There are no gloves, so a fighter's hands are not protected from delivering 500 punches per fight. Moreover, a hard punch landed by a bare knuckle can easily open up a cut sufficient to terminate the fight (Contrary to popular opinion, boxing would be a much safer sport in terms of chronic brain damage if no gloves were worn).
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i am the biggest MMA fan. i love the UFC been hardcore fan for a few years now. best sport on earth.
for the reason why it is safer than boxin is very simple. boxers have 10 seconds to get back up and prepare themself to fight after they have been knocked out. IN the UFC once you are knocked out...you lost.
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Kevin Costner wrote:
does Joe Rogan announce?
yeah, he has a black belt in tai-kwon do, and has been trainingin MMA...he is very educated in the sport. it's not just for show.
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UFC 61 was the first MMA event I ever sat down and watched in its entirety and I was engaged by every moment of it. My friends grew bored with some of the matches and they were a little disappointed with how quick the ortiz/shamrock fight was over, but this event got me hooked and I instantly became a fan. There is absolutely nothing like it. There is no sport that is more demanding or asks more of you physically and there isn't anything in the world that is more mentally challenging than testing your skills in a 1-on-1 battle.
I've been backtracking and trying to download ufc 1-60. The concept of ufc 1 was to gather a variety of fighters with various backgrounds to see which fighting style prevailed. There were practically no rules and there were no time limits or weight classes in the early days, so the event was considered by many to be controversial and barbaric, which is why it was stricken to PPV. It quickly became obvious that there really is no one style that is above-all and all of the participants began cross-training and became more well-rounded fighters.
The sport has evolved IMMENSELY. Now, they have rounds, time limits, separate weight divisions and a surprisingly large amount of striking and grappling violations. What people don't understand is that the safety of the fighters is paramount. It is much rarer that someone literally gets knocked out. It is more often that a competitor willfully submits or that a figther is suffering consecutive blows that could potentially knock him out if continued, and thus, the fight stops.
Another thing I love about this is how honorable the athletes are. With the exception of some cocky assholes like Tito Ortiz, there is a great amount of mutual respect when the fight is over and the contestants are very good sports. Wrestling was always my favorite sport, so I've had an appreciation for combat athletics for half of my life. I decided I wanted to take part in MMA myself, so my buddy and I have been training (for a very brief time, I can't even kick well yet, haha) at a dojo in Philly. They make you bow when you enter the dojo and before every training exercise.
Anyway, there should be more than three damn ufc threads, haha. Discuss your favorite fighters and classic matches.
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jwfocker wrote:
Mitchell wrote:
Angels Tribe wrote:
Mitchell wrote:
this shit is brutal
believe it or not its safer than boxing
both are brutal sports that have no place in a civilized country.
Very obtuse thing to say.
Don't bother responding to Mitchell's posts like this. I don't even know if he's still banned or not, but even if he does, he just tries to bait people into arguments, during which he'll provide no facts and all metaphorical hyperbole.
bunch of my friends love this shit... too brutal for my tastes... something about seeing a guy getting the shit kicked out of him turns my stomach...
oh... and im not saying you're wrong, but i'd be tempted to call bullshit on the "safer than boxing" thought... do tell...
off the top of my head:
Boxers suffer many more blows the head. If someone punches you with a bare fist 4 or fives in the face, the chances are you going to get knocked out much faster. With boxing you can a fight a full 12( ?) rounds of shots to the head. Plus, boxers throw a lot of punches to the head as opposed to the face. Blows to the head will damage the brain. In UFC you'll break your hand if you keep hitting someone in the head. So they hit more in the face which is less damaging to the brain. Sure, it looks a lot worse seeing a guy with a busted lip or a bloody face. Thats were boxing is decieving. Most of the damage cannot be seen. And also UFC features a lot of grappling. Grapplers and jujitsu fighters may only throw a few punches a match. Ofcourse there are other circumstances, but yes, for the most part i do believe boxing is more dangerous. Now, this is just from my head. I will research a better source and post it.
Whoever wrote that needs to update his site. A lot of the facts are no longer correct, but brings up a lot of very interesting points that are even more valid today.
But still...UFC isn't nearly as "taboo" as it was 10 years ago. Hell, UFC Unleashed is only rated TV-14 on SPike.
EDIT: my bad, I meant to quote the post below this one.
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