http://www.thekcrachannel.com/education ... c&psp=news

I was watching fox the other night....and there was some stupid prosecutor bitch on there bitching about how it was too emotionally disturbing for a 5 year old that throws fits like a crackhead on withdrawal to be cuffed.......if anyone has seen the video, you know it was the right thing to do to put cuffs on the bitch, i think they shoulda put a knee in her back, the principal busted her ass to try to calm this girl down with as little physical contact as possible and this girl just wouldnt calm down, she was rippin shit off the walls, hitting the principal, etc. And when this prosecutor was asked "well what would you have done" , she relies with half ass subject changing answers, she never once stated one thing that was better to do than cuff her, stupid ass.

What they should have done is busted a cap in the little n*%^$#...

i jsut realized the video thats on that news site doesnt show 1/10th of what that little brat did...

Irrelevant. At the time she was handcuffed by 3 fucking police officers she was relatively calm. I though the teachers did great, but the police here are just disgraceful.

She's five years old. FIVE.

Only redeeming factor here is that they didn't use a stun gun.

perhaps i should find a link with the real video....then...you wouldnt be saying such silly things.......cuz that showed about 3 seconds of the bitch acting up...she threw a fit for a good several minutes

This is the same kid, right?
http://www.theskyiscrape.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11733

Just for the record, I spent 3 years in counseling, including time in a locked, inpatient, juvenile treatment center. I've seen kids restrained, tackled, held down for hours by staff in shifts, and locked into padded rooms, but I have never, regardless of how unruly or violent the kid has become, seen police handcuff a child, let alone a five year old.

I have a good feeling that the police are going to pay for this one.

Maybe they should have.
The idea is to prevent the kid from hurting themselves or others right? Handcuffs seem a lot more civil then being held down by 3 grown men.

Start curbing your child's tantrums as soon as they begin, or it will indeed turn into stuff like this. My boy is barely 2 and he understands already that there are consequences for his bad behavior, and he certainly knows the difference between being a "good boy" and a "naughty boy." And if anyone quotes that last sentence out of context I'll fucking maim you.

Actually the philosphy in child care is that human restraint is preferrable over any kind of handcuffs, etc. In that locked facility there the only situation in which someone would be strapped down is if they were actively attempting to kill themselves. I guess it's not fair to say this place wouldn't handcuff, b/c they had a psych unit on site and never would have called the police in. This was actually the kind of place where the police brought children in, not vice versa.

If you put restraints on someone, they kind of lose their ability to struggle and fight anymore. I've had handcuffs on, it's really hard to do anything with your hands behind your back that way.
Ever have an older brother that would sit on you when you were fighting? Is there anything more infuriating? You'd fight like hell to get out of that.
It seems odd to me that you wouldn't immediately immobilize someone and would prefer to let them "fight it out".

I don't know a whole lot of the justification, but it's a widespread philosophy that restraint with your own body is preferred over cuffs or restraints. It's used in schools (other than this one, apparently), social services, counselling, etc. Prior to moving out of the profession, I never worked with anyone that didn't follow that philosphy, and I was in and out of 50+ agencies.

Word.

I'd hate to say it, but I'm siding with the cops. I've been at the hands of kids like that, and I would have given up half my pay for a pair of cuffs.

It's not the kids' faults - it's the parents, and the school system that banns any sort of decipline at all. The kids don't know who is in charge, and that makes them uncomfortable and insecure. Some of them respond to that by trying to take over themselves. Others will then model the dominate child's behavior for stability. The longer that child is in a classroom, the more children will behave that way.

You saw how the teacher was acting when she was alone with the child. It's because she ISNT ALLOWED to do what needed to be done - a firm NO and sit the kid down- hold her if you have to - until she has gotten herself under control. After a few weeks of that, the kid would sit on her own, and eventually learn the extremely important skill of seperating ones self from a frusterating situation until they are calm.

Yeah, the more I think about it. I don't know what else you would expect the cops to do. They don't get all that training that I was talking about. I mean, that training was part of a mental facility that only dealt with crazy kids and no one else. To say the cops should do something other than remove the kid with handcuffs ... I mean, ... what's what they do.

its a no win situation for the cops, they dont put her in cuffs and she takes a pencil and rams it into her ear. they do restrain her in cuffs and look at the shit storm that ensued

yeah, i agree....what happens when the girl grabs a pair of scissors off a desk and comes at one of the teachers trying to "peacefully restrain" her?.....in an ideal world, putting her in handcuffs and having her taken away by police would be enough to scare the fuck out of any 5 year old, but it sounds like the parents in this case are only teaching her that she did nothing wrong and that the police were the ones who were "naughty".....charge the parents and boot her in the head next time.....

It's also the SECOND time that the mother refused to come get the little girl because of this bahavior, and they had to call the police last time as well.

So, mom didn't do ANYTHING to make sure that little girl learned any sort of lesson the first time around, and you bet she didn't learn shit this time, either. Instead, she has mom defending her behavior and blaming everyone but the child and her own neglect.

Oh my!

It's too bad they didn't cuff the parents for doing such a crappy job of raising their kid. I tell you what, if I had been doing the things that kid had acting the way that demon child acted, my parents wouldn't have sued anybody. They would've just given me a what for for acting like a damned idiot.

Cuffs on a 5 yo when psychiatric intervention was so sorely and obviously needed...that makes me sick.

When I was student teaching, I caught one of my students (5 yo) with a knife (his brother gave it to him). I cornered him and waited him out while the "real" teacher went about the business of the day.

A small child can be physically controlled pretty easily, and in fact, a good, gentle "basket hold" (sit on the floor with your legs in front of you, get the kid facing away from you and sitting in front of you, and then wrap your arms and legs around them like a basket) is sometimes what the kid needs.

It has the effect of a "swaddling clothes" on the child, and it often calms them down to be wrapped up like that.

Oh, and my student finally reliquished the knife...it took about an hour of dodging and blocking. I did not need to lay a finger on him.

If he had been throwing shit and freaking like this girl in the story? I would evacuate the classroom, call an ambulance and get the kid the psychiatric treatment he needed.

Everyone let this child down.