Also, B-G-V is itself not a Creationist theory, since it says nothing about a Creator at all, only that any universe/multiverse system with net expansion (like ours) must have a beginning. The authors of the proof are themselves agnostic IIRC.
I do realize that Borde-Guth-Vilenkin said nothing about a creator, but it is used by creationist to debunk various scientific theories and models. My question to you would be why can't the universe/multiverse itself be the first cause? If god can be eternal, why can't the universe? If the first cause originated atemporally, why can't the universe? Why does it have to be god? Why do you seemingly have two set of rules: one set for the universe and one set for when god steps in? I again want to thank you for sharing your point of view.
If the universe/multiverse subsists in a state that causes all events and itself is uncaused, then what is it about the essence of the Simgilarity that warrents it to exist? Why did the Singularity have being, rather than not - and If the Singilarity itself were the First Cause, then by what means did it change?
So you want to give us a reason to exist? Isn't just existing enough? Does there have to be something that warrants us? Seems like an attempt to interject religion. I'm sorry, but I think I'm OK with just being and I don't think just being prevents me from wanting to further study the universe or existence. Perhaps this discussion is now better suited for the "god" thread?
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The iron in our blood and the calcium in our bones are the result of the inner spewing of massive exploding stars. Everything else we're made of also came from the stars.
People are often astonished to hear this.
But, really, where else would we get our stuff from?
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You all really need to watch that episode of one of those space shows on the Science channel where they explore the idea that the earth is a microscopic part of a living thing.
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There's also a great philosophical science film called "Men in Black" where an entire galaxy is stored in a little ball on a cat's collar. It has Will Smith in it. It's kind of a mindblower.
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Total solar eclipse in Australia Spectators flocked to tropical north Queensland to watch the nation’s first total solar eclipse in a decade. The moon’s shadow path on the Australian mainland lasted for a maximum of 2 minutes and 5 seconds.
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Mercury's water ice at north pole finally proven Scientists have finally shown what has been postulated for decades: the planet Mercury holds billions of tonnes of water ice at its north pole.
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