How many lives have to be ruined before we realize the right to bear arms doesn’t protect us from a government equipped with stealth bombers, predator drones, tanks and nuclear weapons?
I agree there is no way an armed citizenry could resist such an army. This logic explains how we were able to stabilize Afghanistan so quickly.
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:46 pm
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Electromatic wrote:
Of course we all have the freedom not to own guns and that's fine too.
I'm not sure about that. Wouldn't there be less violence if we were all required to own and carry a gun? i mean, you're probably likely to shoot at me if you know I might shoot back.
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:49 pm
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corduroy_blazer wrote:
Electromatic wrote:
Of course we all have the freedom not to own guns and that's fine too.
I'm not sure about that. Wouldn't there be less violence if we were all required to own and carry a gun? i mean, you're probably likely to shoot at me if you know I might shoot back.
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:50 pm
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Or maybe I just happen to know that Electro is itching for a gun fight.
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:53 pm
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That's him, on the right:
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:57 pm
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Oh, I don't do gun fights. I'm a lover
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Post subject: Re: Instead of another tired plea for a US gun ban Bob Costas...
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:33 pm
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Electromatic wrote:
Liberty has its costs. Some people can't handle it, stop fucking ruining it for the rest of us.
Actually, one of the most prevalent "costs" of liberty is the ability to ruin it for others. The more freedom you have, the greater your ability to do things that ruin other people's day, limit their ability to make the most of their own freedoms, or just kind of suck as a human being. I'm not arguing for gun control, but the idea that the word 'liberty' all by itself is a defense of anything is a little bit incomplete.
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He'll maybe we should ban football.
I'll support this. Please direct me to your petition, sir, and I will sign it forthwith.
I do my best to not impede other peoples freedom and happiness. All I ask in return is the same.
I agree with you, but you cannot deny that in America, the societal costs of gun ownership are pretty high. This is a cultural problem more than a 'tool availability' problem, but I can understand where the criticism comes from.
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:41 pm
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There is a compound bow problem in this country that needs addressing. At least one individual in Wyoming would be alive if it weren't for the wide availability of compound bows.
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:56 pm
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thodoks wrote:
when it comes to society's most complex and intractable problems, i turn to journalists for the solutions
I especially appreciate all the flak the New York Post freelancer has received for the fellow killed in the subway. How was his death any less preventable from all those starving Ethiopians? This silly business of journalism divorcing individuals from their moral imperative to assit their fellow man has existed before the tabloid. Somehow maintaining a supposed distance and objectivity is more important? The attention that they'll bring to the cause is more useful? Perhaps, but they don't have to be tourists. Just pay a stringer and send some grain. It'll be cheaper and less morally problematic in the end.
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