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I agree it was a weak statement and he shouldn't have to do anything. However, Rove embodies what is wrong w/ politics and this current administration. He is a vile little man.
Rove should resign or apologize? For expressing an opinion? And a weak one at that?
Who is this guy, why should I care, and who on EARTH actually thinks that this opinion is worth him having to resign his job?
Did he use the "N" word too?
What am I missing with this story, because I just don't "get" what the issue actually is? Are there any grown ups running the country at all?
Someone please enlighten me?
c-
This is hilarious, It's in the wake of the Dick Durban lunacy and Howard Deans daily embarrassment of himself and his party.
Rove's comment is tame in comparison.
tis just politics, that's all.
Since the republicans have no balls, he probably will appologise.
It's all nothing really. I love the fact we have people with a 5 year old in a sandbox mentality leading the country, be they republican or democrat.
Everything in this is political bullshit.
Please, people, I don't care what your party affiliation is, next election, vote against the incumbant. vote in independants, greens, libertarians, who ever more closely resembles your beliefs, just don't vote Republican or Democrat.
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Seriously, Karl Rove is the devil, but I don't understand what about THIS statement he should resign over. It was a heated, anti-Democratic comment. There are Republican leaders saying worse stuff than this every day!
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Karl Rove is a savage and an ugly pig. This man is begging for an assasination attempt on his life.
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On Wednesday, Rove also denounced Sen. Dick Durbin's comments comparing interrogation at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp to the methods of Nazis and other repressive regimes. He said the statements have been broadcast throughout the Middle East, putting U.S. troops in greater danger. The Illinois Democrat has since apologized for the remarks.
Dick Durbin apologized for that?
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On Wednesday, Rove also denounced Sen. Dick Durbin's comments comparing interrogation at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp to the methods of Nazis and other repressive regimes. He said the statements have been broadcast throughout the Middle East, putting U.S. troops in greater danger. The Illinois Democrat has since apologized for the remarks.
Dick Durbin apologized for that?
However, in an interview he said:
"If there's a lesson to be learned here it's not that my remarks were wrong or that there's any need for apology.It's the fact that they have successfully twisted them out of context." [/i]
He also added:
"I'm certainly not going to be intimidated by the right-wing message machine". "If I'm going to back off every time they decide they're unhappy with my statements, then I really won't be doing my job. We're going to continue to follow this (and) demand that the administration be held accountable."
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PJinmyhead wrote:
B wrote:
Quote:
On Wednesday, Rove also denounced Sen. Dick Durbin's comments comparing interrogation at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp to the methods of Nazis and other repressive regimes. He said the statements have been broadcast throughout the Middle East, putting U.S. troops in greater danger. The Illinois Democrat has since apologized for the remarks.
Dick Durbin apologized for that?
However, in an interview he said:
"If there's a lesson to be learned here it's not that my remarks were wrong or that there's any need for apology.It's the fact that they have successfully twisted them out of context."
He also added:
"I'm certainly not going to be intimidated by the right-wing message machine". "If I'm going to back off every time they decide they're unhappy with my statements, then I really won't be doing my job. We're going to continue to follow this (and) demand that the administration be held accountable."
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turkey sub jr. wrote:
If there was no need for an apology, then why did he apologize? Fuggin' guy!
It appears as though he said, "I'm sorry ... that you ASSHOLES can't handle the facts!" and the AP went ahead and called that an apology.
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B wrote:
turkey sub jr. wrote:
If there was no need for an apology, then why did he apologize? Fuggin' guy!
It appears as though he said, "I'm sorry ... that you ASSHOLES can't handle the facts!" and the AP went ahead and called that an apology.
So his blubbering and tears were because he was calling someone else holes of the ass because they couldn't handle facts? If I were saying that I certainly wouldn't be on the verge of a cry fest.
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turkey sub jr. wrote:
B wrote:
turkey sub jr. wrote:
If there was no need for an apology, then why did he apologize? Fuggin' guy!
It appears as though he said, "I'm sorry ... that you ASSHOLES can't handle the facts!" and the AP went ahead and called that an apology.
So his blubbering and tears were because he was calling someone else holes of the ass because they couldn't handle facts? If I were saying that I certainly wouldn't be on the verge of a cry fest.
Christ, the only reason he apologized is because Mayor Daley from Chicago publicly outted him and called for an apology. Before his Hollywood-produced tear-factory the other day, he merely stated that he was sorry "the words were misconstrued," not that he spoke them -- essentially placing blame for his own stupid comments on someone else. For everyone that says Karl Rove is an asshole, I don't see how you can use the difference in politics to excuse something like Durbin said. They are one in the same -- it just so happens their politics differ.
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turkey sub jr. wrote:
B wrote:
turkey sub jr. wrote:
If there was no need for an apology, then why did he apologize? Fuggin' guy!
It appears as though he said, "I'm sorry ... that you ASSHOLES can't handle the facts!" and the AP went ahead and called that an apology.
So his blubbering and tears were because he was calling someone else holes of the ass because they couldn't handle facts? If I were saying that I certainly wouldn't be on the verge of a cry fest.
Where's he crying? Are you thinking of Voinovich?
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B wrote:
turkey sub jr. wrote:
B wrote:
turkey sub jr. wrote:
If there was no need for an apology, then why did he apologize? Fuggin' guy!
It appears as though he said, "I'm sorry ... that you ASSHOLES can't handle the facts!" and the AP went ahead and called that an apology.
So his blubbering and tears were because he was calling someone else holes of the ass because they couldn't handle facts? If I were saying that I certainly wouldn't be on the verge of a cry fest.
Where's he crying? Are you thinking of Voinovich?
He shed a couple of tears on the Senate floor the other day. It was a poor acting job.
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Chris_H_2 wrote:
B wrote:
turkey sub jr. wrote:
B wrote:
turkey sub jr. wrote:
If there was no need for an apology, then why did he apologize? Fuggin' guy!
It appears as though he said, "I'm sorry ... that you ASSHOLES can't handle the facts!" and the AP went ahead and called that an apology.
So his blubbering and tears were because he was calling someone else holes of the ass because they couldn't handle facts? If I were saying that I certainly wouldn't be on the verge of a cry fest.
Where's he crying? Are you thinking of Voinovich?
He shed a couple of tears on the Senate floor the other day. It was a poor acting job.
On Wednesday, Rove also denounced Sen. Dick Durbin's comments comparing interrogation at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp to the methods of Nazis and other repressive regimes. He said the statements have been broadcast throughout the Middle East, putting U.S. troops in greater danger. The Illinois Democrat has since apologized for the remarks.
Dick Durbin apologized for that?
However, in an interview he said:
"If there's a lesson to be learned here it's not that my remarks were wrong or that there's any need for apology.It's the fact that they have successfully twisted them out of context."
He also added:
"I'm certainly not going to be intimidated by the right-wing message machine". "If I'm going to back off every time they decide they're unhappy with my statements, then I really won't be doing my job. We're going to continue to follow this (and) demand that the administration be held accountable."
If there was no need for an apology, then why did he apologize? Fuggin' guy!
He apologized and then realized that the criticism was a case of hyper-sensitivity about remarks critical of US behaviour and intended to distract from the larger issue.
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turkey sub jr. wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
B wrote:
turkey sub jr. wrote:
B wrote:
turkey sub jr. wrote:
If there was no need for an apology, then why did he apologize? Fuggin' guy!
It appears as though he said, "I'm sorry ... that you ASSHOLES can't handle the facts!" and the AP went ahead and called that an apology.
So his blubbering and tears were because he was calling someone else holes of the ass because they couldn't handle facts? If I were saying that I certainly wouldn't be on the verge of a cry fest.
Where's he crying? Are you thinking of Voinovich?
He shed a couple of tears on the Senate floor the other day. It was a poor acting job.
Turkey Sub Jr....vindicated!!
Sorry, my experience here is based on print media.
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Friday - Rove Confirms: U.S. Losing War in Iraq That's all his foul, necrophiliac obscenity of earlier this week can mean.
Speaking to members of New York's Conservative Party, Karl Rove said, "Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers. [Conservatives] saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war."
It's obviously an attempt to re-stoke the dying embers of war-lust in this country, to re-ignite the blazing lie that Iraq had anything to do with September 11th. It is also, of course, a slander not only on liberals, but on many of the victims' families, some of whom have opposed both wars. But Rove obviously doesn't care about that.
It's also, of course, a lie. No liberal of any note wanted to offer therapy for the attackers. No liberal of any note wanted to offer understanding for our attackers. So, he's lying. About September 11th. Hardly a new tactic for the administration that let it happen.
What Rove could have claimed was that liberals wanted understanding of our attackers. Why? Well, it might have helped us to do things like, for instance, capture Osama bin Laden.
It also might have helped Rove and his team of foul, corrupt sons of bitches aim their war lust at, for instance, al Qaeda, rather than content itself with taking out one sponsoring regime and then turning on an ever-more-clearly-unrelated regime far, far away.
And one last untruth Rove managed to squeeze in there. The nation's top conservative, when he saw the savagery of the attacks, did not, in fact, prepare for the war. He stayed in his seat. With a children's book in his hand. And he continued to sit there for several minutes while a classroom of children continued to read him a story called "The Pet Goat." Then he ran away, shirking his responsibilities (again) while others in (and out of) the military chain of command did his work for him (again).
And if Karl Rove wants to know what liberals really did on 9/11, well, New York is a liberal city. Liberals died on 9/11. Liberals risked and gave their lives for their fellow Americans on 9/11. And liberals pulled the dead out from the rubble before, and after, Rove's boss and puppet came to stand on their remains and reap the first political harvest from his greatest failure.
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