I finally saw "supersize me".

What a load of sh*t. If this is what pass for a documentary today, it's not wonder our kids are failing. Who the hell can eat 5000 calories a day, never exercise, and not get fat? Eating 5000 calorioes a day from Whole Foods would result in the exact same thing!

I really dont kow alot of people who exercise

Didn't he base his activity (and walking) on the average American's amount of activity?

Big Mac® 7.8 oz (219 g) 560 calories 30 fat

Large French Fries 6 oz (170 g) 520 calories 38 fat

Coca-Cola® Classic (Large)§ 32 fl oz cup 310 calories

Three meals like this and a 5000 calorie day would not be hard to reach.

I'm guessing a sandwich, salad, and drink from Whole Foods is likely to have far less calories and fat.

I think the point was the deception of fast food to most americans. There are alot of people in this country who dont realized the are taking in 5000 calories and they also dont realize how long it takes to burn of 100 calories. If a person runs on a tread mill and 5.0 spead, it will take roughly 15 mins to burn 100 calories. So that will take 12.5 hours of running on the tread mill a day to work off those calories.

Yes. He even took cabs so he wouldn't "overwalk".

That is true, but that's not what I said.

What I said is that the consumption of 5000kCal/day will make you fat regardless of the source. Eating 5000kCal/day at the nicest French restraunt in NYC will have the same effect as eating it at McDonalds.

He is tricking people into thinking it's fast food, and not over eating, that is the issue. He uses this trick to demonize fast food corporations, instead of pointing to individuals inability to stop shovling food in their face.

What you're saying is true, but I don't agree that he's trying to decieve anyone. No one considers a sandwich, a side, and a drink overeating, but if you have that everytime at McDonalds, you're blowing your caloric intake away. Sure, McDonalds makes their nutritional information available, but very few people know how to process that information. Hell, at the start of this thread, I didn't know what 5000 calories meant.

5000 calories a day is detrimental to a person, but more so when it's high fat like most fast food, and besides, people easily underestimate the calories/fat of what their actually eating.

The point isn't that 5000 calories of McDonalds food makes you fat. The point is that eating McDonalds for 3 meals a day equals a LOT more fat and calories than 3 meals a day from Whole Foods.

Please, nobody come in here and post about how Whole Foods isn't really THAT good, we're just using it as a point of comparisson and an example.

Really its both people and corporations that are to blame. Obviously people ultimately should eat better and be more concerned with their health, thats a given. But just because you can sell shitty-fatty food doesn't mean you should. Those corporations are making money off the heart-attacks of americans. Its a fucking vicious cycle.

That's true. I felt the message of that movie was NOT, "Close down McDonalds."

It was more like, "Stop eating at McDonalds, you fat slobs!"

He talked plenty about personal responsibility. Did you make up your mind about the movie before you watched it?

I haven't seen it, but I would be disappointed if he is ONLY pointing the finger at fast food companies. It is true that fast food companies encourage overeating, simply because they can push more food and make more money that way. But Americans eat too much regardless of where they get it from. Every restaurant in America gives portions that are obscenely large, and everybody in America casually eats snack food most of the day anyway. Couple that with the "clean-plate" ethos, numerous holidays where we literally stuff ourselves, as well as our tendency to sit around and do nothing for long periods of time, and its no wonder that so many people are so goddamn fat.

that should be their new slogan

Corporations are to blame how? People choose to buy or not by a product. They can sell whatever they like so long as it is not dangerous. Anything that is abused in the manner he did will become dangerous even if it is not. It's stupid people who are the "victims" here and those who were conned by this film.

That's like saying it's the beer makers fault for alcoholism.



I must have missed that part. I would suggest that Mr. Spurlock had made up his mind about what would happen before this experiment began.



That's the whole problem.

It's should NOT be: "Stop eating at McDonalds you fat slobs!"
It should be: "Stop eating so much you fat slobs!".

I think McDonalds was put in there simply to demonize corporations. I would again argue that if he consumed 5000 Calories per day at any organic food market, that exact same thing would happen.

But if someone at the same meal (sandwich, side, drink) at another location. It wouldn't be nearly as detrimental to their health.

Spurlock also interviews a guy who adores McDonald's food, and he had a extremely low cholesterol count (which is very important--for example, I have a high metabolism, but if family history is an indication, I'll have high cholesterol as well if my diet is poor).

I enjoyed the movie quite a lot, and I didn't see that much anti-corporate stuff there. This is coming from someone who's not hugely anti-corporate, either.

I am not ness. blaming corps but do they not have some responsibility to there community? The only thing relieving McDonalds from a law suit is probably the fact that they do post the nutritional values. Kinda like surgeon general warning on cigs.

Panera:

Frontega Chicken Panini Calories: 860 Total Carbohydrate: 71g
Chocalate Chip cookie: 420 cal
Assuming a 32oz Coke is identical at the two places (310 calories),

Total = 1590 cal

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Subway:

12" Meatball 1120 Calories (48g fat)
Sugar cookie: 230 calories
32oz Coke 310 calories
Total = 1660

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Chili's

Ground peppercorn burger: ~1100 calories
Fries: ~350 cal
32oz Coke 310 calories
(you get the picture)


The point is it doesn't matter where you eat. It matters what you eat. If he was genuine, he would have also done a normal calories intake (2500-3000) at McDonalds to show the effect of personal choice.

I just felt manipulated after watching. Similar "Bowling for Columbine". I argee with MM that "fear of each other" is a huge problem and we are be sold this fear by the media. I just felt it was portrayed in a way that showed the wrong people as the enemies. Samething here. It's American's inability to put the fork down that is the problem, not fast food.