I'm sick of jerkoffs like Puff Daddy and Drew Barrymore trying to reach people to vote. It pisses me off that the people that watch this shit vote because half of them dont know what the fuck is going on. They should make voting intelligence mandetory in school. If I have to take a fucking mandetory cooking class and they call it "Life Skills" then we should take mandetory political classes that way people dont complain about learning useless junk. Just because more people are registering doesnt mean its positive. Because its so easy to register some people voting now may be just voting cuz its their parents or their boyfriend or girlfriend or friends vote a certain way. There are so many people registering so easily and the only increase of voting "info" is coming from fucking MTV and FoxNEWS, so being informed is far fetched. Not that I am any more intelligent than the next guy but seeing some people defending themselves in college discussions defend outsourcing by saying "you think I could go to Wal-Mart and get a 27" TV for 180 bucks if it was made in America" made me sick. And also if i see Sean Hannity point his finger at vietnam vet and tell him hes lying and he didnt commit warcrimes I will go to Fox News and punch that fucker in the face. Whew, k im done venting, anyone else agree with me or no?

"The Constitution gives you the right to be a moron." --Bill O'Reilly

I do wish that people would become more informed in the issues, but I could never tell anyone that they shouldn't vote.

I also agree with not being able to tell people they cant vote. But voting without knowledge is a disservice to democracy in my opinion.

IMO it's more of a disservice not to vote.

So some kid who turns 18 and votes "cus its who my parents want" is democracy?

Leaving aside the issue of whether people can vote, because I imagine most people are of the opinion that anyone should be able to vote, what is your opinion of encouraging as many people to vote as possible?

Yep. It's their choice to mimic their parents.

Encouraging them to vote is a great thing. I do think that the message shouldn't be "just vote", but to also explain why voting is so important. It's a tough thing to convince in just a short period of time, of course.

You could easily argue knowledge is important, but it is also knowlegeable to know politicians lie.. but, yes listin carefully to both sides of the arguement first.

With all respect I think thats kinda gross (so is you avator). voting by mimicing (is that spelled right?) is as far from democracy as you can get. While constitutionally is right, if we did everything constitutionally thsi place would be shittier....."feel this world with your heart and not your brain" if i may quote

EDIT: by constitutionally i mean if we accepted everything without attempting change, i ralize it was ironic since everything is done constitutionally

My opinion is, only vote if you really care. If you care enough, you'll look around for all the knowlege you really need.

Agreed, it shouldn't be "just vote", but I think it's pretty apparent that that's what a lot of it has become. Or maybe it's always been that way. It's pretty disheartening if you ask me. Democracy is about more than having a vote in the democratic process, it's about all the discussion and argument that accompanies it.

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My "problem" with votinig is not those who encourage others to do so....


.... my "problem" with voting is NOT being given a "NONE OF THE ABOVE" option to select, but instead being forced to select someone that you may not believe can do a good job, simply because that person "might" do a slightly better job than whoever you "don't" like or want.

That isn't a "vote", at least, its not a vote of confidence. Would you want a surgeon to operate on you who was given his job not by way of merit or past achievements, nor by school grades or previous jobs held, but because whoever was "hiring" simply needed a body, any body, to fill the position (for lack of choices)? Of course not.

So why should our elected officials be the same? For any list of people, even if it is a choice between just two candidates for a given elected position, I want a third box that says "none of these".... if the percent of votes in that box is higher than what the individuals received, then there should be a "do over" in that category with NEW (different) candidates, until we truely "vote" someone into that position because we WANT that person and/or believe they will do the job well..... not simply because we need a "body".

That's "my" problem with voting.

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Whats up with the PDiddy shirt "Vote or Die"?????

CNN did a poll about 2 hours age about the turnout of voters 18-29. it has so far been 17%. it was 17% in the 2000 election also.

so i guess nobody's really paying attention to p.diddy, drew barrymore and every other celebrity that's encouraging voter registration.

watching the election coverage makes me depressed.

my problem with voting....

too many ppl are just too uninformed and vote (as someone else said) because it's who their parents, gf/bf, whoever is voting for. Or they vote based simply on the person's party.

Also there seems to be no real accountability. Look at how they said some of the electronic voting machines already had votes on them before the polls opened! Plus all sorts of other shit with those devices. Couple that with the CEO of an electronic voting machine manufacturer promising his state's electoral votes to bush and katherin harris exempting electronic voting machines from being recounted, because they "are 100% accurate"....I just see way too much room for fraud when there's no trail. It would be too simple to have a line of code that changes votes. There's already been reports this election of ppl voting for someone electronically and recording someone else.

Our ENTIRE political system is nothing but a scam pulled on us. Why the fuck does the world's only super power decide its elections on 'the lesser of 2 evils'?? But it's our own fault for being so apathetic, that's what they count on. They know they can just give us some bullshit story like ben and j-lo or something and we'll all be distracted and forget.

I mean bush fuckin flat out LIED several times and gets away with it. He lied by citing IAEA reports that don't exist, lied by saying the CIA never told anyone they disagreed with what was being said in their speeches pushing for war with iraq (then when a few memos are leaked from the CIA to the WH, NSC and speech writers they just shrug and say 'sorry, they slipped our minds!')....

it's our fault for living in the United States of Apathy