It seems they would be better off to ban Cell Phone Usage in cars,...most people smoking I've seen just have a stick between their fingers and both hands on the wheel,... a far better position than most people I see on cell phones, weaving in their lane or out of it, driving too fast or way too slow, cutting people off, not stopping when they're supposed to..... I haven't noticed smokers having as difficult a time as cell phone users.
No numbers on "smoking" related accidents in this article; I suspect/speculate, given the years and years of smoking while driving versus the relatively new introduction of cell phone technology, the number of smoking related accidents would be very very very small, if it exists at all.
Seems pretty weak legislation, who would even enforce it?
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If they are going to make that step they should go ahead and ban any distraction in the car.
Essentially it's pointless legislation more goverment bullshit, it won't stop anything but it will be another fine to tack on, I wonder if they are going to add listening to music and eating to the list of banned distractions.
you know what would really be nice? If they fucking stopped paying price supports on tobacco.
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Electromatic wrote:
If they are going to make that step they should go ahead and ban any distraction in the car.
Essentially it's pointless legislation more goverment bullshit, it won't stop anything but it will be another fine to tack on, I wonder if they are going to add listening to music and eating to the list of banned distractions.
This man is on the ball!
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It seems they would be better off to ban Cell Phone Usage in cars,...most people smoking I've seen just have a stick between their fingers and both hands on the wheel,... a far better position than most people I see on cell phones, weaving in their lane or out of it, driving too fast or way too slow, cutting people off, not stopping when they're supposed to..... I haven't noticed smokers having as difficult a time as cell phone users.
No numbers on "smoking" related accidents in this article; I suspect/speculate, given the years and years of smoking while driving versus the relatively new introduction of cell phone technology, the number of smoking related accidents would be very very very small, if it exists at all.
Seems pretty weak legislation, who would even enforce it?
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Having read your 1st sentence I'm guessing talking on mobiles while driving isn't banned in your country? It's banned in Britain, along with eating and drinking whether it be alcoholic or not, even water, and smoking while driving is legal. Madness.
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tommyphillips wrote:
hmm cell phones or mobiles as we call them are banned in cars here.
Smoking should be banned at the drive thru window of fast food outlets.
Guess I better get to work on a design for a hands free smoking device. There is money to be made!
On a serious note--I think they proved that the main danger with cell phones isn't having one hand tied up, it's the actual brain power that it takes to have a conversation that diverts your concentration from the road. I don't care for smoking at all, but banning people from doing it in their own cars is just asinine, unless they prove that there is a direct correlation between smokers and car accidents. On the contrary, one could argue that a nic fitting commuter would be far more detremental to the general safety of the driving population than a person using one hand to smoke. People these days...
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It seems they would be better off to ban Cell Phone Usage in cars,...most people smoking I've seen just have a stick between their fingers and both hands on the wheel,... a far better position than most people I see on cell phones, weaving in their lane or out of it, driving too fast or way too slow, cutting people off, not stopping when they're supposed to..... I haven't noticed smokers having as difficult a time as cell phone users.
No numbers on "smoking" related accidents in this article; I suspect/speculate, given the years and years of smoking while driving versus the relatively new introduction of cell phone technology, the number of smoking related accidents would be very very very small, if it exists at all.
Seems pretty weak legislation, who would even enforce it?
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Having read your 1st sentence I'm guessing talking on mobiles while driving isn't banned in your country? It's banned in Britain, along with eating and drinking whether it be alcoholic or not, even water, and smoking while driving is legal. Madness.
Yes, mobiles while driving is not banned in the USA. Eating / Drinking is also not banned. Headphones are supposed to be illegal, but officers probably don't have enough resources to ticket for it; the best they can do is give a ticket for not wearing one's safety belt.
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On the bright side, it might make it easier to sell your car when you're done with it. There's absolutely no way I'll buy a car that has been smoked in.
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On the bright side, it might make it easier to sell your car when you're done with it. There's absolutely no way I'll buy a car that has been smoked in.
Perhaps the group of people behind the proposed legislation are used car salesmen?
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Peeps wrote:
i would wager that probably 93-98% of all people who smoke do not use the ashtray provided in their car, instead they litter the roads.
im for this
i don't use the ashtray because my car was a rental car before i bought it and they took it out. i do what's called a "field strip" and place the but in a trash bag i keep in my car.
and i smell because i smoke.
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Yes, mobiles while driving is not banned in the USA. Eating / Drinking is also not banned. Headphones are supposed to be illegal, but officers probably don't have enough resources to ticket for it; the best they can do is give a ticket for not wearing one's safety belt.
that's because it's not a federal issue. some states and wash d.c. ban cell phone use. lots of states have limited bans, e.g. bans on school bus drivers. also, at least delaware has an attentive driving law, which can prohibit cell phone use, and presumably eating and drinking as well.
as for this issue, i don't really care. people should at least have good enough manners to roll their windows down.
If they are going to make that step they should go ahead and ban any distraction in the car.
Essentially it's pointless legislation more goverment bullshit, it won't stop anything but it will be another fine to tack on, I wonder if they are going to add listening to music and eating to the list of banned distractions.
you know what would really be nice? If they fucking stopped paying price supports on tobacco.
They should just not give drivers licenses to STUPID PEOPLE, that can be easily distracted and can't multi-task. Geez.
If they are going to make that step they should go ahead and ban any distraction in the car.
Essentially it's pointless legislation more goverment bullshit, it won't stop anything but it will be another fine to tack on, I wonder if they are going to add listening to music and eating to the list of banned distractions.
you know what would really be nice? If they fucking stopped paying price supports on tobacco.
They should just not give drivers licenses to STUPID PEOPLE, that can be easily distracted and can't multi-task. Geez.
i'm pretty sure multi-tasking while driving is what people are trying to get rid of.
If they are going to make that step they should go ahead and ban any distraction in the car.
Essentially it's pointless legislation more goverment bullshit, it won't stop anything but it will be another fine to tack on, I wonder if they are going to add listening to music and eating to the list of banned distractions.
you know what would really be nice? If they fucking stopped paying price supports on tobacco.
They should just not give drivers licenses to STUPID PEOPLE, that can be easily distracted and can't multi-task. Geez.
i'm pretty sure multi-tasking while driving is what people are trying to get rid of.
Okay so get rid of the talking to your passengers, get rid of trying to change the radio station, turning on the A/C.
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