I am there with you bro.
Let me ask you a question... Are you going to celebrate a Bush Defeat as a victory for mankind? I am . I am going to drive around and take to the streets celebrating like the Red Sox Just won the world series after 1,000 years. Isn't the thought of Bush on National conceding the election just about enough to make your pants go crazy? Fuck that would be so great. It's going to be hard not to beat-up Bush supporters if kerry wins . We have been beaten long enough by them. I LOVE BEING AMERICAN
yer damn right i will celebrate! I will play that bill hicks bit when daddy bush lost about the republican beast finally being killed as loud as possible!
That is if bush is allowed to lose this time....remember Florida law clearly said there HAD to be a statewide recount, yet the supreme court said no and the conservatives said we must follow what the court system says. Then when the courts ruled getting rid of California's governor was wrong they flip flopped and said the courts have no place in elections and we must follow what state law says instead. They like to have it both ways, depending on which suits them best
_________________ "There are better things
to talk about
Be constructive
Bear witness
We can use
Be constructive
With yer blues
Even when it's only warnings
Even when you're talking war games"
yer damn right i will celebrate! I will play that bill hicks bit when daddy bush lost about the republican beast finally being killed as loud as possible!
That is if bush is allowed to lose this time....remember Florida law clearly said there HAD to be a statewide recount, yet the supreme court said no and the conservatives said we must follow what the court system says. Then when the courts ruled getting rid of California's governor was wrong they flip flopped and said the courts have no place in elections and we must follow what state law says instead. They like to have it both ways, depending on which suits them best
??? The dems didn't want a statewide recount. They only wanted certain counties. That's why they got bitch-slapped.
yer damn right i will celebrate! I will play that bill hicks bit when daddy bush lost about the republican beast finally being killed as loud as possible!
That is if bush is allowed to lose this time....remember Florida law clearly said there HAD to be a statewide recount, yet the supreme court said no and the conservatives said we must follow what the court system says. Then when the courts ruled getting rid of California's governor was wrong they flip flopped and said the courts have no place in elections and we must follow what state law says instead. They like to have it both ways, depending on which suits them best
??? The dems didn't want a statewide recount. They only wanted certain counties. That's why they got bitch-slapped.
when in doubt switch the argument....yes, that is true...wow BOTH poltiical parties suck, whoda thunk it!? oh, right, obviously most of america who still cling to the bullshit 2 party sham.
So the dems wanted a selective recount....what does that got to do with what i said?
Your opinions on what Andy Card said?
_________________ "There are better things
to talk about
Be constructive
Bear witness
We can use
Be constructive
With yer blues
Even when it's only warnings
Even when you're talking war games"
yer damn right i will celebrate! I will play that bill hicks bit when daddy bush lost about the republican beast finally being killed as loud as possible!
That is if bush is allowed to lose this time....remember Florida law clearly said there HAD to be a statewide recount, yet the supreme court said no and the conservatives said we must follow what the court system says. Then when the courts ruled getting rid of California's governor was wrong they flip flopped and said the courts have no place in elections and we must follow what state law says instead. They like to have it both ways, depending on which suits them best
??? The dems didn't want a statewide recount. They only wanted certain counties. That's why they got bitch-slapped.
when in doubt switch the argument....yes, that is true...wow BOTH poltiical parties suck, whoda thunk it!? oh, right, obviously most of america who still cling to the bullshit 2 party sham.
So the dems wanted a selective recount....what does that got to do with what i said?
Your opinions on what Andy Card said?
what does that "got" to do with what you said? Well, it completely negates your last comment, that's all.
yer damn right i will celebrate! I will play that bill hicks bit when daddy bush lost about the republican beast finally being killed as loud as possible!
That is if bush is allowed to lose this time....remember Florida law clearly said there HAD to be a statewide recount, yet the supreme court said no and the conservatives said we must follow what the court system says. Then when the courts ruled getting rid of California's governor was wrong they flip flopped and said the courts have no place in elections and we must follow what state law says instead. They like to have it both ways, depending on which suits them best
??? The dems didn't want a statewide recount. They only wanted certain counties. That's why they got bitch-slapped.
when in doubt switch the argument....yes, that is true...wow BOTH poltiical parties suck, whoda thunk it!? oh, right, obviously most of america who still cling to the bullshit 2 party sham.
So the dems wanted a selective recount....what does that got to do with what i said?
Your opinions on what Andy Card said?
what does that "got" to do with what you said? Well, it completely negates your last comment, that's all.
Andy Card? He's wrong. What's to debate?
it does?? my last comment was "They like to have it both ways, depending on which suits them best" and i don't see how you bringin up 'the dems do it too!!' negates anything but valid debate. Instead of dealing with that you just point and say 'well he did it too mommy!!' Furthermore I pointed out how they adopted 2 conflicting stances on similiar issues and acted like thinking the opposite way they were at that time was soooo wrong.
_________________ "There are better things
to talk about
Be constructive
Bear witness
We can use
Be constructive
With yer blues
Even when it's only warnings
Even when you're talking war games"
yer damn right i will celebrate! I will play that bill hicks bit when daddy bush lost about the republican beast finally being killed as loud as possible!
That is if bush is allowed to lose this time....remember Florida law clearly said there HAD to be a statewide recount, yet the supreme court said no and the conservatives said we must follow what the court system says. Then when the courts ruled getting rid of California's governor was wrong they flip flopped and said the courts have no place in elections and we must follow what state law says instead. They like to have it both ways, depending on which suits them best
??? The dems didn't want a statewide recount. They only wanted certain counties. That's why they got bitch-slapped.
when in doubt switch the argument....yes, that is true...wow BOTH poltiical parties suck, whoda thunk it!? oh, right, obviously most of america who still cling to the bullshit 2 party sham.
So the dems wanted a selective recount....what does that got to do with what i said?
Your opinions on what Andy Card said?
what does that "got" to do with what you said? Well, it completely negates your last comment, that's all.
Andy Card? He's wrong. What's to debate?
it does?? my last comment was "They like to have it both ways, depending on which suits them best" and i don't see how you bringin up 'the dems do it too!!' negates anything but valid debate. Instead of dealing with that you just point and say 'well he did it too mommy!!' Furthermore I pointed out how they adopted 2 conflicting stances on similiar issues and acted like thinking the opposite way they were at that time was soooo wrong.
"remember Florida law clearly said there HAD to be a statewide recount, yet the supreme court said no and the conservatives said we must follow what the court system says."
The dems said "we must follow what the courts say" after the Florida supreme court ignored the law.
I was pointing out the factual inaccuracies in your comments, not making a statement about both sides or anything of that nature.
Listen, you have at least 36 hours until you find out who wins this election. If you don't calm down, you're going to die from a stress induced heart attack and you'll never find out who wins.
yer damn right i will celebrate! I will play that bill hicks bit when daddy bush lost about the republican beast finally being killed as loud as possible!
That is if bush is allowed to lose this time....remember Florida law clearly said there HAD to be a statewide recount, yet the supreme court said no and the conservatives said we must follow what the court system says. Then when the courts ruled getting rid of California's governor was wrong they flip flopped and said the courts have no place in elections and we must follow what state law says instead. They like to have it both ways, depending on which suits them best
??? The dems didn't want a statewide recount. They only wanted certain counties. That's why they got bitch-slapped.
when in doubt switch the argument....yes, that is true...wow BOTH poltiical parties suck, whoda thunk it!? oh, right, obviously most of america who still cling to the bullshit 2 party sham.
So the dems wanted a selective recount....what does that got to do with what i said?
Your opinions on what Andy Card said?
what does that "got" to do with what you said? Well, it completely negates your last comment, that's all.
Andy Card? He's wrong. What's to debate?
it does?? my last comment was "They like to have it both ways, depending on which suits them best" and i don't see how you bringin up 'the dems do it too!!' negates anything but valid debate. Instead of dealing with that you just point and say 'well he did it too mommy!!' Furthermore I pointed out how they adopted 2 conflicting stances on similiar issues and acted like thinking the opposite way they were at that time was soooo wrong.
"remember Florida law clearly said there HAD to be a statewide recount, yet the supreme court said no and the conservatives said we must follow what the court system says."
The dems said "we must follow what the courts say" after the Florida supreme court ignored the law.
I was pointing out the factual inaccuracies in your comments, not making a statement about both sides or anything of that nature.
Listen, you have at least 36 hours until you find out who wins this election. If you don't calm down, you're going to die from a stress induced heart attack and you'll never find out who wins.
factual inaccuracies?? I said in florida they said we must do as the court says, then a months later in california when the courts rule against them suddenly the courts have no place in deciding elections, we must strictly follow what state law says. That, my dead pjdoll, is hypocrisy.
I am pissed because this fucking administration sends out it's chief of staff to deflect any question posed to it about the war, missing explosives or bin laden as denigrating the troops. How about just answering the fucking question and being honest with us instead of giving us more spin
_________________ "There are better things
to talk about
Be constructive
Bear witness
We can use
Be constructive
With yer blues
Even when it's only warnings
Even when you're talking war games"
yer damn right i will celebrate! I will play that bill hicks bit when daddy bush lost about the republican beast finally being killed as loud as possible!
That is if bush is allowed to lose this time....remember Florida law clearly said there HAD to be a statewide recount, yet the supreme court said no and the conservatives said we must follow what the court system says. Then when the courts ruled getting rid of California's governor was wrong they flip flopped and said the courts have no place in elections and we must follow what state law says instead. They like to have it both ways, depending on which suits them best
??? The dems didn't want a statewide recount. They only wanted certain counties. That's why they got bitch-slapped.
when in doubt switch the argument....yes, that is true...wow BOTH poltiical parties suck, whoda thunk it!? oh, right, obviously most of america who still cling to the bullshit 2 party sham.
So the dems wanted a selective recount....what does that got to do with what i said?
Your opinions on what Andy Card said?
what does that "got" to do with what you said? Well, it completely negates your last comment, that's all.
Andy Card? He's wrong. What's to debate?
it does?? my last comment was "They like to have it both ways, depending on which suits them best" and i don't see how you bringin up 'the dems do it too!!' negates anything but valid debate. Instead of dealing with that you just point and say 'well he did it too mommy!!' Furthermore I pointed out how they adopted 2 conflicting stances on similiar issues and acted like thinking the opposite way they were at that time was soooo wrong.
"remember Florida law clearly said there HAD to be a statewide recount, yet the supreme court said no and the conservatives said we must follow what the court system says."
The dems said "we must follow what the courts say" after the Florida supreme court ignored the law.
I was pointing out the factual inaccuracies in your comments, not making a statement about both sides or anything of that nature.
Listen, you have at least 36 hours until you find out who wins this election. If you don't calm down, you're going to die from a stress induced heart attack and you'll never find out who wins.
That is not true. You should not post incorrect information esp. when you state it as if it is fact.
Florida state law does not say that.
And I don't remember that quote from ''the dems", but following the directions of the opinions of the court sounds reasonable and elections are handled by each state according to the Constitution so the Florida Supreme Court would have juridiction. The supreme court acted improperly that is why they limited their ruling and did not permit the presedence to be establish because in had the makings of what the Civil War was all about.
yer damn right i will celebrate! I will play that bill hicks bit when daddy bush lost about the republican beast finally being killed as loud as possible!
That is if bush is allowed to lose this time....remember Florida law clearly said there HAD to be a statewide recount, yet the supreme court said no and the conservatives said we must follow what the court system says. Then when the courts ruled getting rid of California's governor was wrong they flip flopped and said the courts have no place in elections and we must follow what state law says instead. They like to have it both ways, depending on which suits them best
??? The dems didn't want a statewide recount. They only wanted certain counties. That's why they got bitch-slapped.
when in doubt switch the argument....yes, that is true...wow BOTH poltiical parties suck, whoda thunk it!? oh, right, obviously most of america who still cling to the bullshit 2 party sham.
So the dems wanted a selective recount....what does that got to do with what i said?
Your opinions on what Andy Card said?
what does that "got" to do with what you said? Well, it completely negates your last comment, that's all.
Andy Card? He's wrong. What's to debate?
it does?? my last comment was "They like to have it both ways, depending on which suits them best" and i don't see how you bringin up 'the dems do it too!!' negates anything but valid debate. Instead of dealing with that you just point and say 'well he did it too mommy!!' Furthermore I pointed out how they adopted 2 conflicting stances on similiar issues and acted like thinking the opposite way they were at that time was soooo wrong.
"remember Florida law clearly said there HAD to be a statewide recount, yet the supreme court said no and the conservatives said we must follow what the court system says."
The dems said "we must follow what the courts say" after the Florida supreme court ignored the law.
I was pointing out the factual inaccuracies in your comments, not making a statement about both sides or anything of that nature.
Listen, you have at least 36 hours until you find out who wins this election. If you don't calm down, you're going to die from a stress induced heart attack and you'll never find out who wins.
That is not true. You should not post incorrect information esp. when you state it as if it is fact. Florida state law does not say that. And I don't remember that quote from ''the dems", but following the directions of the opinions of the court sounds reasonable and elections are handled by each state according to the Constitution so the Florida Supreme Court would have juridiction. The supreme court acted improperly that is why they limited their ruling and did not permit the presedence to be establish because in had the makings of what the Civil War was all about.
Florida law says if an election is decided by .5% there must be a recount. Bush won Florida by .03%
_________________ "There are better things
to talk about
Be constructive
Bear witness
We can use
Be constructive
With yer blues
Even when it's only warnings
Even when you're talking war games"
That is not true. You should not post incorrect information esp. when you state it as if it is fact. Florida state law does not say that. And I don't remember that quote from ''the dems", but following the directions of the opinions of the court sounds reasonable and elections are handled by each state according to the Constitution so the Florida Supreme Court would have juridiction. The supreme court acted improperly that is why they limited their ruling and did not permit the presedence to be establish because in had the makings of what the Civil War was all about.
What isn't true? Florida law doesn't say what? I honestly can't even follow what you're trying to say anymore. You said florida law says there has to be a statewide recount. I agree with that. The Florida supreme court was going to ignore that, which is what the dems wanted. The supreme court got into it and said "no".
"Under Florida law, a recount is mandatory for all elections where the results are decided by one-half of one percent of the vote."
_________________ "There are better things
to talk about
Be constructive
Bear witness
We can use
Be constructive
With yer blues
Even when it's only warnings
Even when you're talking war games"
"remember Florida law clearly said there HAD to be a statewide recount, yet the supreme court said no and the conservatives said we must follow what the court system says."
The dems said "we must follow what the courts say" after the Florida supreme court ignored the law.
I was pointing out the factual inaccuracies in your comments, not making a statement about both sides or anything of that nature.
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That is Factually inaccurate.
I am new to this board but I am noticing that you tend to muddy debates. Others have accussed you of this in recent post and I agree already
"Under Florida law, a recount is mandatory for all elections where the results are decided by one-half of one percent of the vote."
Gore waved that right. Duh.
and i could give a fuck about what gore did and din't do because.....? How does Gore wavign a right take away from what state law says? christ you act like i sit here supporting gore and holding him up on this pedestal or something.
you keep twisting things, plz focus your mind and try to focus
Florida:
-State law mandated a recount
-The Supreme Court voted no to the recount overruling state law and the conservatives said we must follow the courts
California
-In California when the courts ruled no to getting rid of the Governor these same conservatives said the courts have no place in deciding elections and we MUST follow state law
try hard, i have faith you can comprehend this
_________________ "There are better things
to talk about
Be constructive
Bear witness
We can use
Be constructive
With yer blues
Even when it's only warnings
Even when you're talking war games"
Last edited by VoiceOfReason on Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"remember Florida law clearly said there HAD to be a statewide recount, yet the supreme court said no and the conservatives said we must follow what the court system says."
The dems said "we must follow what the courts say" after the Florida supreme court ignored the law.
I was pointing out the factual inaccuracies in your comments, not making a statement about both sides or anything of that nature.
That is Factually inaccurate.
I am new to this board but I am noticing that you tend to muddy debates. Others have accussed you of this in recent post and I agree already[/quote]
Which part is factually inaccurate? The first line was taken from VoiceofReason's post. The second was an obvious paraphrase based on what the dems wanted after the Florida supreme court decision.
I don't really give a shit if you agree with others or not, nor do I care if you can quote (answering your next post)
keyword: STATEWIDE that is not stated in the law. That is what Katherine sold and Clarence, Tony, Bill and the rest sold us out for
I'm sorry - once again, that was taken from a quote from voice of reason. Shouldn't you go accuse him of muddying the debate, not me? I was merely responding to it.
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