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'It's ridiculous'
Gov. Bush criticizes NCAA ban on FSU's nickname
Posted: Tuesday August 9, 2005 8:54PM; Updated: Tuesday August 9, 2005 8:54PM

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) -- Gov. Jeb Bush criticized NCAA officials on Tuesday for their decision to penalize Florida State for using an American Indian nickname and symbols, saying they instead insulted the university and a proud Seminole Tribe of Florida.

The NCAA's finding that the school's Seminoles nickname is "hostile and offensive," instead of honoring American Indians has the opposite effect, the governor said, because the tribe supports the school's use of its name.

"I think it's offensive to native Americans ... the Seminole Indian tribe who support the traditions of FSU," Bush said on his way into a Cabinet meeting. "I think they insult those people by telling them, 'No, no, you're not smart enough to understand this. You should be feeling really horrible about this.' It's ridiculous."

Meanwhile, attorney Barry Richard, who successfully led the legal challenge on behalf of Republican George W. Bush in the 2000 presidential recount in Florida, has agreed to represent the school in its case against the NCAA, Florida State President T.K. Wetherell said Wednesday.

"We recognize this is an emotional issue in Florida, and in other parts of the country there are people who feel just as strongly being opposed," NCAA spokesman Bob Williams said Tuesday. "We believe this decision was made on sound ground legally though as I said before there is an appeal process in place."

The school's board of trustees are scheduled to meet Wednesday in emergency session to discuss elements of its formal response to the NCAA.

The university has until Feb. 1 to make a formal appeal to the NCAA executive committee.

Florida State, Illinois and Utah are among 18 schools with an American Indian nickname or logo that will be prohibited by the NCAA from displaying them in postseason events, starting in February.

The nicknames will not be allowed on team uniforms and mascots will not be allowed to perform at games, the NCAA announced Friday. Cheerleaders and band members will also be barred from using American Indians on their uniforms beginning in 2008.

The costuming and rigging of the school's symbols, Chief Osceola and the Appaloosa horse, Renegade, are designed by the Seminole Indian Tribe of Florida.

Bush said he fully agrees with Wetherell, who will sue the NCAA if their decision on the use of Seminoles is not rescinded.

"How politically correct can we get?" Bush asked. "The folks that make these decisions need to get out more often."

"If you have the Seminole Tribe and Gov. Bush on your side, how can you go wrong?" Florida State University Vice President Lee Hinkle said Wednesday.

Bush said the NCAA must have better things to do that sit around worrying about the nicknames adopted by its member institutions.

"You know what they ought to be worried about? The graduation rates of most college athletes," the second-term Florida governor said. "Maybe if they had some suggestions on that, that universities could apply and could implement, they could be doing a service to all of us."

Williams noted that student-athletes, on the average, graduate at a higher rate than the average student.

i totally agree with him on this, its funny, go ahead and have it all season long, just not on TV for the end of the season, its fucking stupid

I think the rule is utterly toothless.
Why are the waiting so long to begin enforcement and why only does it apply to certain scenarios? That's the ridiculous part.

What's next? Do we start changing other teams' mascots because they're offensive to animals, historical figures, etc.?

I recently saw where an Indian tribe had named its softball team the Fightin' Whites. I though it was hilarious. People need to stop being so damn sensitive.

It would be one thing if the team name was actually offensive, such as "Injuns"....but I'm sorry, names like "Illini" and "Seminoles" just aren't.

I thought the NCAA had dissolved because they are a limp-dicked joke of a governing body. Maybe they ought to tackle a real problem like steroid use, or the corruption of money in college athletics (oh yeah, that's their lifeblood ), or the fact that they can never come up with a single fucking champion in Division I football.

The NCAA is a corporate monopoly and I can't believe more people in the N&D Forum haven't complained about it.

who cares? i don't believe most student athletes that don't graduate are there to graduate, they're there to get into the pros.

anyway, i always thought the easiest solution to this would be to ask members of the named indian tribes what they want done with their name.
If seeing some white dude do a ceremonial indian dance at halftime doesn't offend the Illini tribe, it probably shouldn't offend the hundreds of white suburban 20 year olds who march all over the quad three times a week, either.

I think this is something that my view has changed on over time. I used to think that it must be pretty offensive to Native Americans, but like Bammer said, I don't think most Native American mascots/team names are, except maybe the Redskins. All of them depict the Native American as a fighter, a warrior, etc. I guess at the end of the day, if anyone should be or could be offended about these team names, it's the Native Americans themselves. If most of them aren't offended, why should I be?

And in related news I heard that "Mets" would no longer be short for Metropolitans, but Metrosexuals in order to keep with the times.

The Mets ARE a bunch of fags, so I'm in agreement here.

Hey goddammit I'm a Mets fan, I'm allowed to poke fun!

Queer!

hahah, brilliant

NOthing was more gay than Jeff Francounier on ESPN last night on 50-50. He's gay and all his gay friends have seats in right field.

well, his 4-4 was pretty gay too.

No one is going to remember that, but that introduction and interview was....flaming!!!

i think i missed it. he does seem like the typical pretty boy though.