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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:45 pm 
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Robertson called for the assassination of Venezuela's president

Pat Robertson, host of Christian Broadcasting Network's The 700 Club and founder of the Christian Coalition of America, called for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

From the August 22 broadcast of The 700 Club:

ROBERTSON: There was a popular coup that overthrew him [Chavez]. And what did the United States State Department do about it? Virtually nothing. And as a result, within about 48 hours that coup was broken; Chavez was back in power, but we had a chance to move in. He has destroyed the Venezuelan economy, and he's going to make that a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent.

You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war. And I don't think any oil shipments will stop. But this man is a terrific danger and the United ... This is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen. We have the Monroe Doctrine, we have other doctrines that we have announced. And without question, this is a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us very badly. We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.

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Lately, I have been watching the 700 Club quite a bit because it is down right entertaining. The wackos on this show, especially Robertson, are pretty much the scum of the Earth as far as i am concerned, yet I laugh my ass off every time they are on the tube.


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Maybe Chavez can pull some strings and have Robertson assassinated.

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Does anyone worthwhile even pay attention to what Robertson has to say?


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Green Habit wrote:
Does anyone worthwhile even pay attention to what Robertson has to say?

Their votes count just as much as yours or mine, unfortunately.

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Jesus was a big fan of the assassination doctrine. Little known fact. :wink:

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PAT ROBERTSON DOES NOT REPRESENT THE VIEWS OF ALL CHRISTIANS.... I actually think he and Jerry Fallwell may vary well be the false prophets that the book of Revelations talks about. But thats just a theory I have....


(yes, the caps are because I'm yelling.)


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Maybe Chavez can pull some strings and have Robertson assassinated.


THAT would rock. God, this guy's a flaming idiot.

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And all of this from a "christian" minister?

Chavez is a legitimately and democraticlly elected president! He has the right to critizise the Bush administration and exercise autonomy, Venezuela is not a pawn of the US.

I think Robertson should reread the Ten Commandments, because they explicitly say "Thou shalt not kill" even if you disagree with someone's politics. There is nothing morally wrong with bein left leaning, socialist, or even communist, it is a different ideology, just like capitalism. Capitalists do not have a monopoly on morality, to the contrary, it seems a socialist form of government is more moral, since it takes care of all, including the less fortunate (but there are drawbacks, every knows that and everyone knows how to argue them).


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Pledge My Grievance wrote:

Chavez is a legitimately and democraticlly elected president! He has the right to critizise the Bush administration and exercise autonomy, Venezuela is not a pawn of the US.




Robertson is an idiot, but I don't know if the last Venezualan election was fair and legitimate. The machines used to elect him were two-way netowrk enabled. In other words, then can send and recieve data about votes in real time (and this data could be modified by the government monitors as it sees fit). The voting machines that were allegedly rigged in the US were not network attached at all, yet many people claimed fraud.

People defend Chavez because, like Castro, he does everything "for the people". When in reality, he does what it takes to get the "masses" to vote for him.

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It's funny. If Robertson were Venezuelan and said the same thing about George Bush, he'd be vacationing at ClubGITMO right about now.

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interesting, i guess the blows his abortion = murder = hell, theory out of the water. For that matter so does assassination.


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"After drinking from the cup of Christ you will find rather a large allotment of M-16's to your right. Please take one, by the way, the chopper lifts off in five minutes for those that feel they can loiter about. I'm looking at you Tommy, for godsakes man get a grip, this is not the place for grab ass. Time is of the utmost importance and we must hurry, the end of Chavez nears."

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Green Habit wrote:
Does anyone worthwhile even pay attention to what Robertson has to say?


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PAT ROBERTSON DOES NOT REPRESENT THE VIEWS OF ALL CHRISTIANS....


Why are you yelling? No one even insinuated that they do represent other Christians prior to your post.


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If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it.


That's a good general policy. I feel that we should assassinate anyone who thinks that the United States wants to assassinate them. Watch how fast health care costs in the US drop. :P

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If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it.


That's a good general policy. I feel that we should assassinate anyone who thinks that the United States wants to assassinate them. Watch how fast health care costs in the US drop. :P

It would solve the mental health crisis among the homeless, substantially lower the costs to the VA, and reduce the number guns in the hands of white supremecist lunatics. I like it. :thumbsup:

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His sole prupose is to make other Republicans look reasonable by comparison.


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If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it.


That's a good general policy. I feel that we should assassinate anyone who thinks that the United States wants to assassinate them. Watch how fast health care costs in the US drop. :P

It would solve the mental health crisis among the homeless, substantially lower the costs to the VA, and reduce the number guns in the hands of white supremecist lunatics. I like it. :thumbsup:


Which reminds me, watch out for those homeless guys, they might be terrorists:

Terrorists May Case Scene As Homeless

By MARK SHERMAN, Associated Press Writer
Mon Aug 22, 5:30 PM ET

Asking for increased vigilance in the wake of the London bombings, the government is warning that terrorists may pose as vagrants to conduct surveillance of buildings and mass transit stations to plot future attacks.

"In light of the recent bombings in London, it is crucial that police, fire and emergency medical personnel take notice of their surroundings, and be aware of 'vagrants' who seem out of place or unfamiliar," said the message, distributed via e-mail to some federal employees in Washington by the U.S. Attorney's office.

It is based on a State Department report that was issued last week. The State Department had no immediate comment Monday.

The warning is similar to one issued by the FBI before July 4, 2004 that said terrorists may attempt surveillance disguised as homeless people, shoe shiners, street vendors or street sweepers.

The e-mail stresses that there is no threat of an attack and that it is intended to be "informative, not alarming."

Homeless people easily blend into urban landscapes, the message said.

"This is particularly true of our mass transit systems, where homeless people tend to loiter unnoticed," the e-mail said.

It referred to a recent incident in Somerville, Mass., in which a police officer became suspicious about someone dressed as a street person. The officer questioned the man, discovered he had a passport from a "country of interest" — typically a Middle Eastern or South Asian nation — and a checkbook with a questionable address, the e-mail said. The investigation is continuing, it said.

Somerville police did not immediate provide comment.

Three British citizens were indicted in the United States earlier this year on charges they conducted surveillance of the New York Stock Exchange and other East Coast financial institutions in 2000 and 2001.

Discovery of the alleged terrorist plan last year prompted the Homeland Security Department to raise the terror alert for the targeted buildings, located in New York, Washington and Newark, N.J. Security in those cities also was tightened.

Homeland Security also raised the terror alert for mass transit following the July 7 bombings in London. The alert was lowered on Aug. 12.
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The Homeland Security Department: Stating the fucking obvious since 2001.

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How can Communism promote Islamic terrorism?! Anyone who knows anything about Karl Marx Communisms founder, knows that his Communist ideology promotes getting rid of religion!

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How can Communism promote Islamic terrorism?! Anyone who knows anything about Karl Marx Communisms founder, knows that his Communist ideology promotes getting rid of religion!

The list of things Pat Robertson thinks he knows something about that he in fact knows nothing about could fill volumes.

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Hallucination wrote:
How can Communism promote Islamic terrorism?! Anyone who knows anything about Karl Marx Communisms founder, knows that his Communist ideology promotes getting rid of religion!

The list of things Pat Robertson thinks he knows something about that he in fact knows nothing about could fill volumes.



I was wondering about this as well, such ignornace.

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