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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:06 pm 
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okay... at a faculty meeting today our principal told us that we are no longer allowed to give a child a band-aid or put it on them... apparently, a lawsuit took place where a school was sued for a teacher administering a band-aid to a student... the youth and his/her parents apparently did not take the band-aid off and apply a new one for like 5 days or so... our principal claims that the student received a bad infection (she even said gangrene but wasnt sure if that's what it was) and his parents ended up suing the school and won the case... the principal claims that the case has already been settled... so, no more teachers giving out or applying band-aids to cut kids

furthermore, i think this lady, our principal, tends to exaggerate and possibly even make up stories... anyway, i figured this is as good as place as any to see if anyone has heard of this case or can find anything about it on the web... i would think that this case would be somewhere on the www, but i couldnt find it on google... im not the best search man, so maybe i just didnt find it.. .anyway, i would feel better knowing that this lady is competely full of shit... if you know how to find obscure articles or just want to help out, see if you can find anything... thanks for any help


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there should be some kind of thing that makes it so parents can't sue a school for whatever happens to their kid outside of school grounds even if whatever started there. Seriously I think parents would love to just drop their kids off at school and come back when they turn 18. Don't you have to do some 'parenting' if you're a....parent? :/

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No luck on findlaw or google news.

I'd ask to see some documentation of this, either a news article, or a directive from somewhere else. Be tactful, obviously this is your superior, but say you have difficulty believing it and you'd like to know more about it.

If she doesn't produce it, or gives some obvious bullshit response, I'd mention that you heard some other teachers talking about how they thought she was completely full of shit with half of the directives she gives, and that insubordination might become a problem if the teachers start to not trust her anymore.

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No luck on findlaw or google news.

I'd ask to see some documentation of this, either a news article, or a directive from somewhere else. Be tactful, obviously this is your superior, but say you have difficulty believing it and you'd like to know more about it.

If she doesn't produce it, or gives some obvious bullshit response, I'd mention that you heard some other teachers talking about how they thought she was completely full of shit with half of the directives she gives, and that insubordination might become a problem if the teachers start to not trust her anymore.


no one questions this lady, cause if you do, she ends up basically talking over you and gets all sorts of pissed off if you talk back at all... so that avenue cannot be taken...

this lady really pisses me off though... she basically slobbers all over NCLB like it's jesus sent to save us... but then she turns around and says shit like, "now, if you have students that arent as smart as others, you need to grade them accordingly... for example, if student A is smart and gets 9 out of 10 problems correct on his quiz, then that should be about the same grade as student B (not so bright) getting 6 out of 10"... this goes against the exact principles of NCLB, but it's like she has no idea... unbelievable how many sides of her mouth she can talk out of... oh well... i'm out after this year, heading back north (thank god)


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I guess this means school nurses are the only ones qualified to put a band-aid on kids.


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My wife, the teacher, recommends sending all kids with any manner of minor cut to the nurse until the nurse goes beserk from administering 200 band-aids a day and shoots the principal.

Seriously, what instruction are you being given in these situations? You can't leave the kid bleeding in the classroom.

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My wife, the teacher, recommends sending all kids with any manner of minor cut to the nurse until the nurse goes beserk from administering 200 band-aids a day and shoots the principal.

Seriously, what instruction are you being given in these situations? You can't leave the kid bleeding in the classroom.


Sadly, at many public schools, this is policy. The teacher must send for the schools health professional on duty. Granted the two minutes it takes to respond could pretty much mean life or death :?

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so, because someone was horribly stupid and didn't change a bandaid for almost a week, no one is allowed to be given one? not only is that stupid, but it's unsanitary. first, a health hazard exists with blood. illnesses are transmitted through blood. i'm sure parents wouldn't be too pleased to find out that kids were being left to bleed all over classrooms. secondly, a lot of kids aren't very diligent about keeping their cuts clean in the first place. without a bandaid all sorts of nasty shit will be getting in there.

i suppose you could just start sending kids to the nurses office for every cut and scrape, but you'll be bogging down the nurse and possibly taking time away from kids who really need to be there, not to mention the fact that little johnny's round trip to the nurse to get a bandaid will cost him at least ten minutes of class time that he needs.

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B wrote:

Seriously, what instruction are you being given in these situations? You can't leave the kid bleeding in the classroom.


we dont have a school nurse... we have about a 1,000 kids in the school (6th through 8th), but no nurse... we have to send them to one of the 3 principals or the safety coordinator (or whatever the hell she is called)


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i always knew a UNC grad couldnt even operate a band-aid correctly :)


kids are coddled entirely too much. i was at my buddies this weekend, and when his oldest girl was acting up and he very slightly raised his voice, his wife shot ice daggers at him.

maybe im old (fashioned) but kids have to learn at an early age that life isnt fair. that if you stomp your feet and cry you are not going to get your way, which is what usually happnes when im out and about.

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pearljamminagain wrote:

"now, if you have students that arent as smart as others, you need to grade them accordingly... for example, if student A is smart and gets 9 out of 10 problems correct on his quiz, then that should be about the same grade as student B (not so bright) getting 6 out of 10"..


:evil: :evil: Well, you wouldn't want to student B to feel bad about themselves. Or student B's parents to sue you for oppressing their child's spirit.

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pearljamminagain wrote:
B wrote:

Seriously, what instruction are you being given in these situations? You can't leave the kid bleeding in the classroom.


we dont have a school nurse... we have about a 1,000 kids in the school (6th through 8th), but no nurse... we have to send them to one of the 3 principals or the safety coordinator (or whatever the hell she is called)


Oh Christ! That's even better. Then do that. Send every fucking papercut to the Principal. They'll be putting bandaids on every kid, every day ... the rule will be changed by the end of the first month of school.

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i always knew a UNC grad couldnt even operate a band-aid correctly :)


kids are coddled entirely too much. i was at my buddies this weekend, and when his oldest girl was acting up and he very slightly raised his voice, his wife shot ice daggers at him.

maybe im old (fashioned) but kids have to learn at an early age that life isnt fair. that if you stomp your feet and cry you are not going to get your way, which is what usually happnes when im out and about.

now:
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honey, we dont scream and cry and say mommies going to die, thats not nice


then:
Quote:
i am going to beat your ass, you wanna cry? ILL GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO CRY ABOUT


how i miss the old days :)


Are you arguing that band-aids shouldn't be given at all because it's just catering to whiny kids?

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Are you arguing that band-aids shouldn't be given at all because it's just catering to whiny kids?


let the little fuckers bleed to death, survival of the fittest etc...


actually, what my rambling was going off about is, let kids be kids, so the kid got an infection, big fucking deal, thats no reason to sue a school, unless the nurse/teacher/other school official, actually cut open said student and poured mercury into the cut

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Peeps wrote:
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Are you arguing that band-aids shouldn't be given at all because it's just catering to whiny kids?


let the little fuckers bleed to death, survival of the fittest etc...


actually, what my rambling was going off about is, let kids be kids, so the kid got an infection, big fucking deal, thats no reason to sue a school, unless the nurse/teacher/other school official, actually cut open said student and poured mercury into the cut


As a member of the public health community, I give that plan a :thumbsdown:

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