1) "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees." –President Bush, on "Good Morning America," Sept. 1, 2005, six days after repeated warnings from experts about the scope of damage expected from Hurricane Katrina (Source)
2) "What I'm hearing which is sort of scary is that they all want to stay in Texas. Everybody is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway so this (chuckle) – this is working very well for them." –Former First Lady Barbara Bush, on the Hurricane flood evacuees in the Houston Astrodome, Sept. 5, 2005 (Source)
3) "It makes no sense to spend billions of dollars to rebuild a city that's seven feet under sea level....It looks like a lot of that place could be bulldozed." –House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.), Aug. 31, 2005 (Source)
4) "We've got a lot of rebuilding to do ... The good news is — and it's hard for some to see it now — that out of this chaos is going to come a fantastic Gulf Coast, like it was before. Out of the rubbles of Trent Lott's house — he's lost his entire house — there's going to be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch." (Laughter) —President Bush, touring hurricane damage, Mobile, Ala., Sept. 2, 2005 (Source)
5) "Considering the dire circumstances that we have in New Orleans, virtually a city that has been destroyed, things are going relatively well." —FEMA Director Michael Brown, Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)
6) "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job." –President Bush, to FEMA director Michael Brown, while touring Hurricane-ravaged Mississippi, Sept. 2, 2005 (Source)
7) "I have not heard a report of thousands of people in the convention center who don't have food and water." –Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, on NPR's "All Things Considered," Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)
"Well, I think if you look at what actually happened, I remember on Tuesday morning picking up newspapers and I saw headlines, 'New Orleans Dodged the Bullet.' Because if you recall, the storm moved to the east and then continued on and appeared to pass with considerable damage but nothing worse." –Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, blaming media coverage for his failings, "Meet the Press," Sept. 4, 2005 (Source)
9) "I mean, you have people who don't heed those warnings and then put people at risk as a result of not heeding those warnings. There may be a need to look at tougher penalties on those who decide to ride it out and understand that there are consequences to not leaving.” –Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA), Sept. 6, 2005 (Source)
10) "You simply get chills every time you see these poor individuals...many of these people, almost all of them that we see are so poor and they are so black, and this is going to raise lots of questions for people who are watching this story unfold." —CNN's Wolf Blitzer, on New Orleans' hurricane evacuees, Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)
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3) "It makes no sense to spend billions of dollars to rebuild a city that's seven feet under sea level....It looks like a lot of that place could be bulldozed." –House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.), Aug. 31, 2005 (Source)
Everyone of those quotes besides this one is stupid as hell. However, this one makes perfect sense. If it needed levees to begin with, we probably shouldn't have developed it. Now that it's a giant flooded bowl, we're going to try to rebuild it just so it can happen again within the next 50 years or so.
Not to be insensitve considering thousands of people call it home, but after this, I don't see why'd you'd want to move back.
1) "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees." –President Bush, on "Good Morning America," Sept. 1, 2005, six days after repeated warnings from experts about the scope of damage expected from Hurricane Katrina (Source)
2) "What I'm hearing which is sort of scary is that they all want to stay in Texas. Everybody is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway so this (chuckle) – this is working very well for them." –Former First Lady Barbara Bush, on the Hurricane flood evacuees in the Houston Astrodome, Sept. 5, 2005 (Source)
3) "It makes no sense to spend billions of dollars to rebuild a city that's seven feet under sea level....It looks like a lot of that place could be bulldozed." –House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.), Aug. 31, 2005 (Source)
4) "We've got a lot of rebuilding to do ... The good news is — and it's hard for some to see it now — that out of this chaos is going to come a fantastic Gulf Coast, like it was before. Out of the rubbles of Trent Lott's house — he's lost his entire house — there's going to be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch." (Laughter) —President Bush, touring hurricane damage, Mobile, Ala., Sept. 2, 2005 (Source)
5) "Considering the dire circumstances that we have in New Orleans, virtually a city that has been destroyed, things are going relatively well." —FEMA Director Michael Brown, Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)
6) "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job." –President Bush, to FEMA director Michael Brown, while touring Hurricane-ravaged Mississippi, Sept. 2, 2005 (Source)
7) "I have not heard a report of thousands of people in the convention center who don't have food and water." –Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, on NPR's "All Things Considered," Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)
"Well, I think if you look at what actually happened, I remember on Tuesday morning picking up newspapers and I saw headlines, 'New Orleans Dodged the Bullet.' Because if you recall, the storm moved to the east and then continued on and appeared to pass with considerable damage but nothing worse." –Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, blaming media coverage for his failings, "Meet the Press," Sept. 4, 2005 (Source)
9) "I mean, you have people who don't heed those warnings and then put people at risk as a result of not heeding those warnings. There may be a need to look at tougher penalties on those who decide to ride it out and understand that there are consequences to not leaving.” –Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA), Sept. 6, 2005 (Source)
10) "You simply get chills every time you see these poor individuals...many of these people, almost all of them that we see are so poor and they are so black, and this is going to raise lots of questions for people who are watching this story unfold." —CNN's Wolf Blitzer, on New Orleans' hurricane evacuees, Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)
Some of those are straight up right, but you miss out on West's quote? Come on, that was the dumbest thing said yet. And Barbara, as dumb as insensitive as it seems to say out loud, if you have driven through the worst parts of NO, and visited the Astrodome, it is straight up true. Even what Hastert said seems ignorant, but really. Why not rebuild New Orleans 20 miles north of its current location and keep this from happening again? It is much easier then building 100 miles of dam, then building a city. A lot of what these people said was insensitive, and things that could have waitied. But they make a bit of sense.
"Well, I think if you look at what actually happened, I remember on Tuesday morning picking up newspapers and I saw headlines, 'New Orleans Dodged the Bullet.' Because if you recall, the storm moved to the east and then continued on and appeared to pass with considerable damage but nothing worse." –Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, blaming media coverage for his failings, "Meet the Press," Sept. 4, 2005 (Source) - Jim
Did you add the "blaming the media coverage for his failings?"
I watched, I heard the quote. Mr. Chertoff was talking about how the disaster didn't happen until after it didn't dodge a bullet. He wasn't scapegoating shit. He was talking about what actually took place. At first glance, it appeared that NO HAD indeed dodged a bullet. He was only describing the timeline. You guys must be really starving at this point to spin this, and Mrs. Bush's quote in this way.
And how is the Hastert and Santorum quotes anything but the God honest truth? Can't say it cause it's not politically correct to make sense some times?
3) "It makes no sense to spend billions of dollars to rebuild a city that's seven feet under sea level....It looks like a lot of that place could be bulldozed." –House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.), Aug. 31, 2005 (Source)
Everyone of those quotes besides this one is stupid as hell. However, this one makes perfect sense. If it needed levees to begin with, we probably shouldn't have developed it. Now that it's a giant flooded bowl, we're going to try to rebuild it just so it can happen again within the next 50 years or so.
Not to be insensitve considering thousands of people call it home, but after this, I don't see why'd you'd want to move back.
I agree with this. Again, not to be insensitive, but it's like rebuilding a time bomb.
Isn't it sort of necessary for NO to be where it is given that it's a major port of entry?
I'm definitely not an engineer, but given that the city itself is below sea level, wouldn't it be possible to move the city back to the point that is above sea level, remove the levies and make what is currently NO the port?
again, not an engineer. please don't slaughter me if this is an absurd idea
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PJDoll wrote:
Serjical Strike wrote:
Isn't it sort of necessary for NO to be where it is given that it's a major port of entry?
I'm definitely not an engineer, but given that the city itself is below sea level, wouldn't it be possible to move the city back to the point that is above sea level, remove the levies and make what is currently NO the port?
again, not an engineer. please don't slaughter me if this is an absurd idea
I don't know either. I think it's safe to say no matter what they decide, it's going to cost a fuckload of money.
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PJDoll wrote:
Serjical Strike wrote:
Isn't it sort of necessary for NO to be where it is given that it's a major port of entry?
I'm definitely not an engineer, but given that the city itself is below sea level, wouldn't it be possible to move the city back to the point that is above sea level, remove the levies and make what is currently NO the port?
again, not an engineer. please don't slaughter me if this is an absurd idea
makes sense to me....if its agreed this is gonna be inevitable again.....would it be the gov't's responisbility to look out for the citizens and request/demand they think of relocation?
1) "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees." –President Bush, on "Good Morning America," Sept. 1, 2005, six days after repeated warnings from experts about the scope of damage expected from Hurricane Katrina (Source)
2) "What I'm hearing which is sort of scary is that they all want to stay in Texas. Everybody is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway so this (chuckle) – this is working very well for them." –Former First Lady Barbara Bush, on the Hurricane flood evacuees in the Houston Astrodome, Sept. 5, 2005 (Source)
3) "It makes no sense to spend billions of dollars to rebuild a city that's seven feet under sea level....It looks like a lot of that place could be bulldozed." –House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.), Aug. 31, 2005 (Source)
4) "We've got a lot of rebuilding to do ... The good news is — and it's hard for some to see it now — that out of this chaos is going to come a fantastic Gulf Coast, like it was before. Out of the rubbles of Trent Lott's house — he's lost his entire house — there's going to be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch." (Laughter) —President Bush, touring hurricane damage, Mobile, Ala., Sept. 2, 2005 (Source)
5) "Considering the dire circumstances that we have in New Orleans, virtually a city that has been destroyed, things are going relatively well." —FEMA Director Michael Brown, Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)
6) "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job." –President Bush, to FEMA director Michael Brown, while touring Hurricane-ravaged Mississippi, Sept. 2, 2005 (Source)
7) "I have not heard a report of thousands of people in the convention center who don't have food and water." –Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, on NPR's "All Things Considered," Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)
"Well, I think if you look at what actually happened, I remember on Tuesday morning picking up newspapers and I saw headlines, 'New Orleans Dodged the Bullet.' Because if you recall, the storm moved to the east and then continued on and appeared to pass with considerable damage but nothing worse." –Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, blaming media coverage for his failings, "Meet the Press," Sept. 4, 2005 (Source)
9) "I mean, you have people who don't heed those warnings and then put people at risk as a result of not heeding those warnings. There may be a need to look at tougher penalties on those who decide to ride it out and understand that there are consequences to not leaving.” –Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA), Sept. 6, 2005 (Source)
10) "You simply get chills every time you see these poor individuals...many of these people, almost all of them that we see are so poor and they are so black, and this is going to raise lots of questions for people who are watching this story unfold." —CNN's Wolf Blitzer, on New Orleans' hurricane evacuees, Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)
okay...
can someone clue me in as to why #9 is so stupid? I would think it makes sense that if every able bodied person who was told to evacuate had evacuated, then they could have had more manpower, money, etc focused on rescuing only those who were UNABLE to leave when told. HEck, maybe they'd even have more manpower to rescue the pets, right?
When people end up taking up valuable resources, time, money etc to be rescued, when they were able to get themselves out before the storm hit, then why shouldn't they have to take some responsibility for that? I seem to remember everyone getting all upset about the runaway b ride and wanted to impose severe monatary penalties on her, right?
So what am I missing? (I just woke up and am sick, so maybe there is something I'm completely overlooking)
And #8? I cant even read that garbled paragraph, so I Dont' really understand what he is trying to say. But I work the night shift at the hospital, and it was a slow night that night so I was checking the internet frequently to look at news and I remember at one point CNNs main story (on cnn.com) was how new orleans had been spared.
anyway.
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Isn't it sort of necessary for NO to be where it is given that it's a major port of entry?
I'm definitely not an engineer, but given that the city itself is below sea level, wouldn't it be possible to move the city back to the point that is above sea level, remove the levies and make what is currently NO the port?
again, not an engineer. please don't slaughter me if this is an absurd idea
makes sense to me....if its agreed this is gonna be inevitable again.....would it be the gov't's responisbility to look out for the citizens and request/demand they think of relocation?
maybe because it is just so slightly below sealevel that if they let it fill back up with water, the ships wouldnt be able to come in because it would be like a reef.. too shallow for tankers, etc to come near shore?
just making that up, but..
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maybe because it is just so slightly below sealevel that if they let it fill back up with water, the ships wouldnt be able to come in because it would be like a reef.. too shallow for tankers, etc to come near shore?
just making that up, but..
yeah, and if they just moved teh city and kept the port when the city drained itd be like escape from New York but in NO....thatd be pretty silly and outlandish i guess......maybe they can just figure out a way to create an anti-hurricane machine
maybe because it is just so slightly below sealevel that if they let it fill back up with water, the ships wouldnt be able to come in because it would be like a reef.. too shallow for tankers, etc to come near shore?
just making that up, but..
yeah, and if they just moved teh city and kept the port when the city drained itd be like escape from New York but in NO....thatd be pretty silly and outlandish i guess......maybe they can just figure out a way to create an anti-hurricane machine
i don't understand this? the city won't drain. they would have to rebuild levees to keep the water back.
and I dont' know what escape from NY is.. so I'm doubley baffled by your post. sorry.
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Pearl Jam Is Good wrote:
Already in Love wrote:
maybe because it is just so slightly below sealevel that if they let it fill back up with water, the ships wouldnt be able to come in because it would be like a reef.. too shallow for tankers, etc to come near shore?
just making that up, but..
yeah, and if they just moved teh city and kept the port when the city drained itd be like escape from New York but in NO....thatd be pretty silly and outlandish i guess......maybe they can just figure out a way to create an anti-hurricane machine
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LittleWing wrote:
You guys must be really starving at this point to spin this, and Mrs. Bush's quote in this way.
And how is the Hastert and Santorum quotes anything but the God honest truth? Can't say it cause it's not politically correct to make sense some times?
Umm are you insane???
For a week all I heard about was how the levees were going to break with anything over a Cat 3. Do you really need to spin this for him to sound completely out of touch?
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1) "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees." –President Bush, on "Good Morning America," Sept. 1, 2005, six days after repeated warnings from experts about the scope of damage expected from Hurricane Katrina (Source)
or how about this?
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"Out of the rubbles of Trent Lott's house — he's lost his entire house — there's going to be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch." (Laughter) —President Bush, touring hurricane damage, Mobile, Ala., Sept. 2, 2005 (Source)
It just goes to show how completely ignorant Bush is of the average person's plight. So one of Lott's houses gets taken out and that's worth mentioning???
Holy shit you guys never cease to amaze me. Did Bush suck your dicks at some point to deserve this level of admiration?? Maybe at some point you'll be able to at least admit the man is horrible when it comes to relating to people. Shit I'll admit that if I hear Nancy Pelosi one more time with her annoying complaining I'll fucking shit myself. Is it too much to ask for the same honesty from your side of the table?
One thing is for sure, you all would do very well in his cabinet. Just a bunch of bobblehead dolls nodding YES YES YES
At some point don't you think someone briefed the president on the impending hurricane and the POSSIBLE of massive destruction? Don't you think he then had a choice as what to do?
"Hmmmm what do y'all think? I'm the President and we could face a serious catastrophe here. Do y'all think I need to look Presidential?? I don't need to leave vacation early do I?
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Post subject: Re: Stupidest Hurricane Katrina Quotes
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:37 pm
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Already in Love wrote:
JimNasium wrote:
9) "I mean, you have people who don't heed those warnings and then put people at risk as a result of not heeding those warnings. There may be a need to look at tougher penalties on those who decide to ride it out and understand that there are consequences to not leaving.” –Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA), Sept. 6, 2005 (Source)
okay...
can someone clue me in as to why #9 is so stupid? I would think it makes sense that if every able bodied person who was told to evacuate had evacuated, then they could have had more manpower, money, etc focused on rescuing only those who were UNABLE to leave when told. HEck, maybe they'd even have more manpower to rescue the pets, right?
When people end up taking up valuable resources, time, money etc to be rescued, when they were able to get themselves out before the storm hit, then why shouldn't they have to take some responsibility for that? I seem to remember everyone getting all upset about the runaway b ride and wanted to impose severe monatary penalties on her, right?
So what am I missing? (I just woke up and am sick, so maybe there is something I'm completely overlooking)
I think it's considered "stupid" in this case because the people who stayed kind of already suffered the consequences. I see what he's attempting to say, but the circumstances surrounding his comment make it sound stupid.
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"Well, I think if you look at what actually happened, I remember on Tuesday morning picking up newspapers and I saw headlines, 'New Orleans Dodged the Bullet.' Because if you recall, the storm moved to the east and then continued on and appeared to pass with considerable damage but nothing worse." –Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, blaming media coverage for his failings, "Meet the Press," Sept. 4, 2005 (Source)
