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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:13 pm 
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I'm sure the Milk Sucks crew will have a field day with this one.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050912/hl_nm/bones_soy_dc

Soy protein cuts bone fracture risk -study

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CHICAGO (Reuters) - Eating soy-based foods lessens the progress of osteoporosis in women after menopause, when hormonal changes can rapidly thin bones and increase the risk of fractures, researchers said on Monday.

Bone loss is particularly quick in women during the five to seven years after menopause when a drop-off in estrogen levels may cause them to lose up to 5 percent of bone mass yearly, the report published in the Archives of Internal Medicine said.

Replacing estrogen through hormone replacement therapy has been found to carry health risks, including stroke, and soy protein has been viewed as a possible alternative.

Other ways for menopausal women to retard bone loss suggested by the U.S.
Food and Drug Administration are to exercise more and increase consumption of calcium and vitamin D.

In the study, a sampling of 24,000 women participating in the three-year Shanghai Women's Health Study found post-menopausal women who ate the most soy protein had a 37 percent lower risk of bone fracture compared to women who consumed the least soy. There were a total of 1,770 bone fractures reported, said study author Xianglan Zhang of Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tennessee.

"In this prospective cohort study of post-menopausal women, we found that soy food consumption was associated with a significantly lower risk of fracture, particularly among women in the early years following menopause," he wrote.

The women were divided into five categories of soy consumption, with those in the highest consuming group eating at least 13 grams per day, while the low-consuming group ate 5 grams per day. Average consumption was 8.5 grams, based on the reported consumption of soy products such as soy milk, tofu, soy sprouts and fresh soybeans.

Soy protein has been found to have beneficial effects on other symptoms of menopause, and may reduce the risks of cardiovascular disease and hormone-related cancers, the report said. But like estrogen, it may stimulate growth of certain cells that may heighten the risk of breast cancer.


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I hate real milk.
I love soy milk (especially the vanilla - it kicks ass in cereal), but it makes me gassy. :oops:
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NaiveAndTrue wrote:
I hate real milk.
I love soy milk (especially the vanilla - it kicks ass in cereal)


:thumbsup:

I haven't had the gassy problem, though.


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Green Habit wrote:
NaiveAndTrue wrote:
I hate real milk.
I love soy milk (especially the vanilla - it kicks ass in cereal)


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I haven't had the gassy problem, though.


I think it's soy in general. It took me 3 days of lunches to figure out that the boca burgers were upsetting my tummy. i think they're very soy based, too.
It's a lose-lose situation, because milk can upset my tummy too, especially if it's hot, like in coffee or tea.

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Nick, if I ever get to go to lunch with you again in Seattle, there's this one "salad" bar we should go to that has, among other wonderful & organic foods, teriyaki-marinated tofu. It is totally addictive.

*plans lunch trip tomorrow*

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NaiveAndTrue wrote:
I think it's soy in general. It took me 3 days of lunches to figure out that the boca burgers were upsetting my tummy. i think they're very soy based, too.


Have you tried Gardenburgers? They own Boca IMO, because they don't try to imitate meat--they're just its own thing. I don't believe there's much soy in them, either.


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JamElizabeth wrote:
Nick, if I ever get to go to lunch with you again in Seattle, there's this one "salad" bar we should go to that has, among other wonderful & organic foods, teriyaki-marinated tofu. It is totally addictive.

*plans lunch trip tomorrow*


Someday, I just need to go to Seattle on a non-PJ trip, so we have time to do fun and exciting things like this. :luv:


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Green Habit wrote:
JamElizabeth wrote:
Nick, if I ever get to go to lunch with you again in Seattle, there's this one "salad" bar we should go to that has, among other wonderful & organic foods, teriyaki-marinated tofu. It is totally addictive.

*plans lunch trip tomorrow*


Someday, I just need to go to Seattle on a non-PJ trip, so we have time to do fun and exciting things like this. :luv:



yes! hey, maybe you should just move here.

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Green Habit wrote:
NaiveAndTrue wrote:
I think it's soy in general. It took me 3 days of lunches to figure out that the boca burgers were upsetting my tummy. i think they're very soy based, too.


Have you tried Gardenburgers? They own Boca IMO, because they don't try to imitate meat--they're just its own thing. I don't believe there's much soy in them, either.


Yeah, totally, they're yummy too.

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JamElizabeth wrote:
Nick, if I ever get to go to lunch with you again in Seattle, there's this one "salad" bar we should go to that has, among other wonderful & organic foods, teriyaki-marinated tofu. It is totally addictive.

*plans lunch trip tomorrow*


:shock:

What is the name of this place Jan? It sounds yummy.

I hate real milk, but my mom drinks at least 3 glasses a day. I like Soy milk too, it's tasty. :li:

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I've never had soymilk before, I'm curious, because I've been slowly eating more and more healthy and organic foods. I've noticed that the organic foods generally taste alot better.


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Mmmm, Iced Caramel Machiatto made with Vanilla Soy.

Ahhhhhhhhh :D

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PJDoll wrote:
Mmmm, Iced Caramel Machiatto made with Vanilla Soy.

Ahhhhhhhhh :D


I was eagerly awaiting your presence in this thread. :luv:


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Soy :thumbsup:

But I like moo milk too :?


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i love soy. before i was vegetarian, i ate a ton of it. i guess i'll have strong bones, but breast cancer or something.

edit: i still eat tons of soy. now that i'm vegetarian, i eat more.

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soy is very tasty. ive never had any gas problems, but my best mate always complains of it after having soy. i can concur on car rides home where she has eaten soy and hour or two before. :cry:


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lemoncoatedafterworld wrote:
i love soy. before i was vegetarian, i ate a ton of it. i guess i'll have strong bones, but breast cancer or something.

edit: i still eat tons of soy. now that i'm vegetarian, i eat more.


thats more like it. :cop:


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No sir, I don't like it. But then again the only kind of milk I like is chocolate. Real chocolate milk is the best!

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No sir, I don't like it. But then again the only kind of milk I like is chocolate. Real chocolate milk is the best!

i really thought you were going to say the only kind you like is breast milk then. :lol:

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No sir, I don't like it. But then again the only kind of milk I like is chocolate. Real chocolate milk is the best!

i really thought you were going to say the only kind you like is breast milk then. :lol:


Chocolate breast milk :li:

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