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Cleveland Doc Wants to Try Face Transplant
A Dozen People to Interview With Cleveland Doc Who Wants to Attempt Unprecedented Face Transplant
By MARILYNN MARCHIONE
The Associated Press

CLEVELAND Sep 17, 2005 — In the next few weeks, five men and seven women will secretly visit the Cleveland Clinic to interview for the chance to have a radical operation that's never been tried anywhere in the world.

They will smile, raise their eyebrows, close their eyes, open their mouths. Dr. Maria Siemionow will study their cheekbones, lips and noses. She will ask what they hope to gain and what they most fear.

Then she will ask, "Are you afraid that you will look like another person?"


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Because whoever she chooses will endure the ultimate identity crisis.

Siemionow wants to attempt a face transplant.

This is no extreme TV makeover. It is a medical frontier being explored by a doctor who wants the public to understand what she is trying to do.

It is this: to give people horribly disfigured by burns, accidents or other tragedies a chance at a new life. Today's best treatments still leave many of them with freakish, scar-tissue masks that don't look or move like natural skin.

These people already have lost the sense of identity that is linked to the face; the transplant is merely "taking a skin envelope" and slipping their identity inside, Siemionow contends.

Her supporters note her experience, careful planning, the team of experts assembled to help her, and the practice she has done on animals and dozens of cadavers to perfect the technique.

But her critics say the operation is way too risky for something that is not a matter of life or death, as organ transplants are. They paint the frighteningly surreal image of a worst-case scenario: a transplanted face being rejected and sloughing away, leaving the patient worse off than before.

Such qualms recently scuttled face transplant plans in France and England.

Ultimately, it comes to this: a hospital, doctor and patient willing to try it.

The first two are now in place. The third is expected to be shortly.

The "consent form" says that this surgery is so novel and its risks so unknown that doctors don't think informed consent is even possible.

Here is what it tells potential patients:

Your face will be removed and replaced with one donated from a cadaver, matched for tissue type, age, sex and skin color. Surgery should last 8 to 10 hours; the hospital stay, 10 to 14 days.

Complications could include infections that turn your new face black and require a second transplant or reconstruction with skin grafts. Drugs to prevent rejection will be needed lifelong, and they raise the risk of kidney damage and cancer.

After the transplant you might feel remorse, disappointment, or grief or guilt toward the donor. The clinic will try to shield your identity, but the press likely will discover it.

The clinic will cover costs for the first patient; nothing about others has been decided.

Another form tells donor families that the person receiving the face will not resemble their dead loved one. The recipient should look similar to how he or she did before the injury because the new skin goes on existing bone and muscle, which give a face its shape.

All of the little things that make up facial expression mannerisms like winking when telling a joke or blushing at a compliment are hard-wired into the brain and personality, not embedded in the skin.


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I don't know. I don't really care what happens to my face after I die, but say my wife dies ... I don't want them putting her face on another person. Can you imagine how disturbing it would be to bump into that person? I know they wouldn't look exactly the same, but surely you'd see enough similarities to be freaked out.

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Michael Jackson is the perfect test subject for this. Even if the doctor completly fucks it up, we will see a major improvement. We can finally make his transformation from black to white a reality.


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C4Lukin wrote:
Michael Jackson is the perfect test subject for this. Even if the doctor completly fucks it up, we will see a major improvement. We can finally make his transformation from black to white a reality.


i think you are on to something, and here it is... i would also like to take all the white kids at my school who think they are black and let them live out their fantasy... i'm thinking this would probably make the doctors happy, too, as they would get to do the surgery twice... because the whiteboys would surely realize it's not all they think it's cracked up to be


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Here's the graphic out of my paper this morning:

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Here's the graphic out of my paper this morning:

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That looks so damn disturbing.
How long before MTV hires this surgeon to give their viewers the chance to look exactly like a celebrity?

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Man, that reminds me of Leatherface.


Creepy.

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Man, that reminds me of Leatherface.


Creepy.

I think its now safe to say that he was a misunderstood pioneer of science.


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where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?

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where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?


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I'm pretty sure that performing something this dangerous on a healthy person for cosmetic reasons will violate pretty much every law designed to protect patients.


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I'm pretty sure that performing something this dangerous on a healthy person for cosmetic reasons will violate pretty much every law designed to protect patients.


Even if said patient is horribly deformed and has signed waivers? I don't think that this is the best use of talented surgeons, but if someone is willing to volunteer to have this procedure done on them, I don't think anyone should stop it.

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