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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 4:38 am 
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I know most of us are joking and a few are serious, but this makes me remember a website someone posted a few years ago on Synergy that talked about an internet coversation with a man who claimed to be from the "future". It was a fun and interesting read, because everything he said seemed reasonably beleivable. People asked him just about everything and he gave an answer that never seemed out of wack... Anyway, I'm not saying I really believed it, but one thing did stick out in my mind the most. He said The United States would get into another Civil War.. and that problems leading to the war would start in near the end of 2004 and into 2005... :shock:


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http://www.johntitor.com


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Thanks! I did remember right!.. This is what he said...

"There is a civil war in the United States that starts in 2005. That conflict flares up and down for 10 years. In 2015, Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective), China and Europe. The United States counter attacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we (in the country) won. The European Union and China were also destroyed. Russia is now our largest trading partner and the Capitol of the US was moved to Omaha Nebraska."


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holy crap! another qoute!..

"What event started the war? Can it be stopped?
(41) The war is a result of faulty politics and desperation from Western leadership during the US civil war. Yes, I suppose you could stop it.

Are some areas of the United States safer than others?
(42) Take a close look at the county-by-county voting map from the last elections."

I remember reading this years ago!.. I need to go to bed, it's getting late. :(


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one can only hope...

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Right back at ya!

That freaked me out.

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Right back at ya!

That freaked me out.

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It's a scary read because the guy is so believable. Even government domains are interested in the site...

THE TIME TRAVEL TALE OF JOHN TITOR

Although there is debate over the exact date it started, on November 02, 2000, a person calling themselves Timetravel_0, and later John Titor, started posting on a public forum that he was a time traveler from the year 2036.

One of the first things he did was post pictures of his time machine and its operations manual. As the weeks went by, more and more people began questioning him about why he was here, the physics of time travel and his thoughts about our time. He also posted on other forums including the old Art Bell site. In his posts John Titor entertained, angered, frightened and even belittled those who engaged him in conversation.

On March 24, 2001, John Titor told us he would be leaving our time and returning to 2036. After that, he was never heard from again. Speculation and investigation about who John Titor was and why he was online continues to this day.

Although it may be easy to dismiss all this as science fiction, most people who read his posts agree that there is something very haunting about John Titor and what he said. In addition, and open to more debate, he also made a series of predictions and comments that eerily seem to be coming true.

Unfortunately, I never spoke directly to John Titor but there are many out there who have and continue to wonder about their experience. As you get deeper into this site, you will find his posts, links to other sites about him, downloads and speculative information attributed to him after he left. I have taken the posts and organized them by date and subject. My editorial work is copyrighted but the unedited posts and the people who experienced it are in the public domain can be found on other sites listed inside.

As you read, please try to keep two things in mind:

1. John appeared to answer nearly every question that was asked of him over the 4-month period he was online. Because of that, many people neglected to read the previous posts and asked similar or exact questions he had already answered. It may offer a glimpse of what a time traveler goes through when having the same conversation again and again.

2. These posts were written before 9-11, the Columbia accident and the second Gulf War. Many people believe John may have known of these events and dropped clues without actually referring to them. It's also widely agreed that he made several predictions about future physics discoveries that have materialized as he stated.

I have included a guest book where you may leave your comments. I will endeavor to respond to any questions you have based on my work as well as to continue adding any relevant information and web links. Please check the guest book for news and developments.

I hope you enjoy your journey with John Titor.

- JTeditor@johntitor.com

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... I keep saying I'm going to go to bed, but now I don't think I'll sleep all night. :(


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Great, now I'm gonna be up all night reading this shit

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Great, now I'm gonna be up all night reading this shit

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I remember this, and i remember he posted his "time machine" leaving. I remember it being blatantly cheesy effects that rivaled sci-fi movies from the 60's.
But hey, nobody really knows...right.

For myself it's very hard to believe because the info he gives is very general. It seems that if it were true he would have given just a few minor details.


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 Post subject: Re: With all this civil war talk..
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LikeAnOcean wrote:
and a few are serious, :shock:



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"I was born in 1998 so the other "me" is 2 on this worldline. There is a saying where I come from, "Every possible thing that can happen or will happen has already happened somewhere"."

Shouldn't he, in theory, be alive already? And, if so, couldn't we search for him?

Creepy nonetheless. :shock:

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"I was born in 1998 so the other "me" is 2 on this worldline. There is a saying where I come from, "Every possible thing that can happen or will happen has already happened somewhere"."

Shouldn't he, in theory, be alive already? And, if so, couldn't we search for him?

Creepy nonetheless. :shock:
lol, you gonna question a 6 year old about things that haven't happened? The parents would call the police and you'd be the crazy one.


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LikeAnOcean wrote:
bullet proof wrote:
"I was born in 1998 so the other "me" is 2 on this worldline. There is a saying where I come from, "Every possible thing that can happen or will happen has already happened somewhere"."

Shouldn't he, in theory, be alive already? And, if so, couldn't we search for him?

Creepy nonetheless. :shock:
lol, you gonna question a 6 year old about things that haven't happened? The parents would call the police and you'd be the crazy one.


What if I kidnapped the potential six year old? Would that make all of the websites about him magically go away?

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bullet proof wrote:
LikeAnOcean wrote:
bullet proof wrote:
"I was born in 1998 so the other "me" is 2 on this worldline. There is a saying where I come from, "Every possible thing that can happen or will happen has already happened somewhere"."

Shouldn't he, in theory, be alive already? And, if so, couldn't we search for him?

Creepy nonetheless. :shock:
lol, you gonna question a 6 year old about things that haven't happened? The parents would call the police and you'd be the crazy one.


What if I kidnapped the potential six year old? Would that make all of the websites about him magically go away?
:shock: Haven't you seen Back to The Future? The consequences would be disasterous!!!


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Look at it this way, if there's no civil unrest in the next year, we'll be able to comfortably dismiss this as bullshit.. but very good bullshit at that.


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THIS is totally creepy. There's a book about this whole thing, and John Titor's mom (from our world) wrote some stuff in it:

"John began posting online with my husband’s computer and email address. After about a week, he started using alternate names and Internet routes for his activity. We expressed concern about our security but he assured us we were safe. He said that not only would no one believe him but also the technology to locate him would not be used or could be defeated for a short period. He also had an unusual amount of trust with the people he spoke with online."

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"How can you possibly criticize me for any conflict that comes to you? I watch every day what you are doing as a society. While you sit by and watch your Constitution being torn away from you, you willfully eat poisoned food, buy manufactured products no one needs and turn an uncaring eye away from millions of people suffering and dying all around you. Is this the "Universal Law" you subscribe to?

Perhaps I should let you all in on a little secret. No one likes you in the future. This time period is looked at as being full of lazy, self-centered, civically ignorant sheep. Perhaps you should be less concerned about me and more concerned about that."

-John Titor


Intriguing..

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"Does the current relationship between Arabs and Jews have anything to do with the coming war?

Real disruptions in world events begin with the destabilization of the West as a result of degrading US foreign policy and consistency. This becomes apparent around 2004 as civil unrest develops near the next presidential election. The Jewish population in Israel is not prepared for a true offensive war. They are prepared for the ultimate defense. Wavering western support for Israel is what gives Israel's neighbors the confidence to attack. The last resort for a defensive Israel and its offensive Arab neighbors is to use weapons of mass destruction. In the grand scheme of things, the war in the Middle East is a part of what's to come, not the cause."
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Misfitte wrote:
"Does the current relationship between Arabs and Jews have anything to do with the coming war?

Real disruptions in world events begin with the destabilization of the West as a result of degrading US foreign policy and consistency. This becomes apparent around 2004 as civil unrest develops near the next presidential election. The Jewish population in Israel is not prepared for a true offensive war. They are prepared for the ultimate defense. Wavering western support for Israel is what gives Israel's neighbors the confidence to attack. The last resort for a defensive Israel and its offensive Arab neighbors is to use weapons of mass destruction. In the grand scheme of things, the war in the Middle East is a part of what's to come, not the cause."
-John Titor
What's really starting to get to me is I read the stuff a few years ago and it's hauntingly starting to come true. We'll have to wait and see how the next year plays out before we can start to freak out.


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