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Post subject: THE WAIT IS OVER!!! POWER RANKINGS HAVE ARRIVED!!!
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:25 pm
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WEEK 13 POWER RANKINGS HAVE ARRIVED!
32. Texans (1-11)(last ranking #32): Houston found yet another amazing way to lose on Sunday. The number one pick looks well within Texas' grasp, unless they go and do something stupid like beating San Francisco in the last game of the season.
31. 49ers (2-10)(#31): What do the Niners have to look forward too? Not a whole lot. Maybe they will get lucky and lose the last game of the year to Houston and get the first shot at drafting Reggie Bush. By the way, last years number one overall pick Alex Smith has zero TDs and eight INTs on the season. Ouch.
30. Jets (2-10)(#29): The Jets lost their seventh consecutive game and fell to 0-7 on the road after scoring only three points against the 31st ranked defense of New England on Sunday. The Jets have had five QBs this season and last season's rushing champ, Curtis Martin, has had only one 100 yard rushing game this season. Sunday was a new low for Martin managing just 29 yards on 15 carries.
29. Packers (2-10)(#26): The Pack continue to lose close games. Injuries have obviously played a major roll but Brett Favre has contributed as well. Through Sunday, Favre leads the NFL in interceptions with 21. Turn overs late in games have cost the Packers multiple times. This leads to the question, when will Green Bay give #1 pick Aaron Rodgers a look at QB? The Pack need to decide if Favre's consecutive games streak is more important then the future of the franchise.
28. Saints (3-9)(#30): New Orleans have fought hard and have been in a few close games, but struggles continue. The Saints have lost 7 of 8 games. Aaron Brooks has thrown 17 INTs, none more costly then the four he threw Sunday against Tampa Bay in a very winnable "home" game in Baton Rouge.
27. Titans (3-9)(#28): Tennessee got steamrolled by Indy on Monday. No shock there. Chris Brown ran for only 32 yards on 11 carries. The Titans as a team had only 40 rush yards in the game. At least Titans fans can look forward to next week against Houston.
26. Lions (4-8)(#21): Detroit has lost five of six. QBs Jeff Garcia and Joey Harrington look completely lost on every play. Steve Mariucci has been fired. One question: How does the man that hired them all, Matt Millen, still have a job?
25. Ravens (4-8)(#22): Baltimore needed a 38 yard field goal with six seconds left to beat the lowly Texans by one point. The Ravens' 0-6 road record, along with Jamal Lewis' 3.2 yards per carry, have the Ravens free falling to their worst finish since their conception in 1996.
24. Eagles (5-7)(#25): How the mighty have fallen. After a 42-0 thrashing at the hands of Seattle on Monday Night, the defending NFC champions are alone at the bottom of the NFC East, and have Eagle nation asking "how bad can it get in Philly?". The Eagles turned the ball over five times. They allowed three defensive TDs. Worst of all, the Eagles looked to give no effort what so ever in the second half of the game. If a professional team can't get up for a Monday Night home game against the team with the best record in the NFC, on the night the Eagles retire Reggie White's #92, WHAT CAN THEY GET UP FOR? So how bad is it in Philly? Really Bad.
23. Bills (4-8)(#24): Buffalo's historic collapse against Miami on Sunday left Bills fans scratching their heads. Before the collapse, things were looking up in Buffalo. JP Loseman had thrown 3 TD passes to Lee Evans in the first quarter and Buffalo was controlling the game. Inexplicably, Buffalo gave up a 20 point lead in the final 12 minutes to fall to 0-6 in road games and looking for answers.
22. Raiders (4-8)(#19): Oakland's consecutive losses and 0-5 mark in the division have left a lot to be desired. Oakland looks to be stuck in the same rut they have been for the last two seasons. After a 4-12 record in 2003, and 5-11 in 2004, Raider Nation was ready for a breakout year in 2005. Being in the beat division in the NFL has them looking forward to 2006.
21. Rams (5-7)(#20): The Rams playoff hopes went out the window with a loss to Washington on Sunday. With Mark Bulger out, rookie Ryan Fitzpatrick couldn't extend the magic of last Sunday's come from behind victory to this week. Steven Jackson rushed for just 24 yards on 11 carries. St.Louis is at Minnesota next week and Dallas to close out the season. Look for the Rams to try to end either teams playoff hopes with an upset win.
20. Cardinals (4-8)(#23): The Cardinals passing offense is very good. Kurt Warner has thrown for over 285 yards in each of Arizona's last five games. Either Larry Fitzgerald or Anquan Boldin have over 100 yards receiving in each of those games. So where have they gone wrong? Everywhere else. The Cardinals single game high rusher this year is JJ Arrington with just 59 yards. An equally troubling problem is defense. The Cards are giving up over 25 points per game, and are constantly trying to fight their way back into games. Look for Arizona to try to improve on defense this off season.
19. Browns (4-8)(#18): Reuben Droughns is the first Cleveland RB to rush for 1,000 yards since 1985. The Browns led Jacksonville 14-3 at halftime but gave up 17 unanswered points in the 3rd quarter to fall to 4-8 on the season. The game cost more then just a loss in the standings. The Browns lost WR Braylon Edwards for the season with a knee injury. After losing TE Kellen Winslow for the majority of the last two seasons, the Brows are wondering who the next first round draft pick to be injured will be. In a bright spot, rookie QB Charlie Frye threw for 226 yards and 2 TDs filling in for an injured Trent Dillfer in the loss.
18. Dolphins (5-7)(#27): Miami has won consecutive games for the first time this season. Their incredible fourth quarter comeback against Buffalo was fueled by Chris Chambers' 15 receptions and 238 yards. Miami's 21 fourth quarter points gave the Dolphins its biggest comeback win since 1974.
17. Redskins (6-6)(#17): Oddly the Redskins are the only NFL team with a .500 record. After beating up on the struggling Rams, the Skins have pulled to 6-6. With four games to play and three against division rivals, Washington will likely have to win out to have a shot at the playoffs. Odds of that happening are slim to none.
16. Falcons (7-5)(#14): Atlanta has lost three of four to fall to third place in the NFC South. Next week against New Orleans is a must win. Atlanta has a tough schedule to finish the season. Their last three games are at Chicago, at Tampa Bay and against Carolina. The Falcons may need to win all of their remaining divisional games to advance to post season play.
15. Steelers (7-5)(#5): The Steelers three game skid has cost a division lead and a possible playoff spot. With the AFC tightly contested, if the playoff were to start today, the Steelers would NOT be in. With a two game deficit in the division and three teams ahead in the Wild Card race, Pittsburgh may have to win out to capture a playoff spot.
14. Patriots (7-5)(#12): The Pats are 3-0 in the AFC East and three of their last four games are against division rivals. This bodes extremely well for the defending Super Bowl Champs. Coming off of those games, look for New England to roll into the post season with momentum on their side. There are a couple of reasons for concern. The Pats have only had one 100 yard rusher in a game this season (Corey Dillon had 106 in week five), and Defensive struggles have the Pats allowing an AFC high 386 yards per game.
13. Cowboys (7-5)(#9): Back to back losses to very good teams (Denver and NY Giants), have hurt Big D a lot. Next weeks big game against Kansas City is close to a must win. Dallas is tying to keep pace with the Giants in the division and Tampa Bay, Minnesota and Atlanta in the Wild Card chase. With just four games to play, slips ups may put the Cowboys on the outside of the playoffs looking in.
12. Vikings (7-5)(#16): Five straight wins and six out of seven, have the once dead Vikings alive and strong in the playoff race. The biggest reasons for the streak are the leadership and decision making of QB Brad Johnson and the surging Viking Defense. Over the five game win streak Minnesota is allowing just 77rush yards per game, while intercepting over 2 passes per game and averaging 3.2 total turnovers per game. The pass rush is much improved (2.8 sacks per game in the streak). These stats look to improve when injured Pro-Bowlers Pat Smoot and Kevin Williams rejoin the team.
11. Buccaneers (8-4)(#13): Tampa need four INTs of Aaron Brooks, including three by Rondee Barber, to escape Baton Rouge with a 10-3 win over the Saints on Sunday. Are the Bucs a paper tiger or a legit contender? The next three weeks, with games against Carolina, New England and Atlanta, will say a lot about how good the Bucs really are.
10. Chiefs (8-4)(#15): Kansas City held off Denver in the final minutes Sunday to pull within one game of the AFC West lead. The Chiefs have won three consecutive games, but the remaining schedule may be the league's toughest. They will go to Dallas and New York to face the Giants over the next two weeks. To finish the season, the Chiefs will host San Diego and Cincinnati. With a schedule this difficult the Chiefs will have to earn their way into the playoffs with big wins.
9. Giants (8-4)(#11): The win over the Cowboys on Sunday solidifies the Giants as the team to beat in the NFC East, and one of the front runners in the NFC. Tiki Barber continues to put up big time numbers. 1,118 rushing yards and a five yard per carry average is very impressive. Eli Manning is coming along quite nicely in the Big Apple too.
8. Jaguars (9-3)(#8): Jacksonville continued its five game winning streak with a come from behind win over Cleveland. Back up QB David Garrard led the Jags to 17 3rd quarter points behind two TD passes and the running of Greg Jones (103 yards on 27 carries). The Jags play Indy next week but then the schedule softens significantly, with the season closing out against San Francisco, Houston and Tennessee. Jags QB Byron Leftwich should be healthy enough to play come playoff time.
7. Bears (9-3)(#6): The Bears have the right numbers. Eight consecutive wins. 4-0 in the division. 8-1 in the conference. Chicago continues to put together a possible record setting year on defense. The Bears picked off Brett Favre twice, forced two fumbles and scored a TD late to ice a 19-7 victory over the Packers. However, not everything is okay in Chicago. Kyle Orton completed only six passes for 68 yards and the offense scored no TDs in the game. Will Chicago stay with Orton now that Rex Grossman is healthy? The QB debate is on in Chi-town.
6. Bengals (9-3)(#10): The Bengals win at Pittsburgh on Sunday answered a lot of questions about their ability to win big games against strong competition. Now alone in first place in the AFC North, and after clinching their first winning season since 1990, Cincinnati controls its playoff destination. With games against Cleveland, Detroit and Buffalo still on the schedule, 12 wins looks likely, and with a win over Kansas City in week 17, 13 wins is possible.
5. Panthers (9-3)(#7): Carolina has won eight of nine games and is alone in first in the NFC South.. DeShaun Foster is making a name for himself as a number one back. Steve Smith is putting up MVP numbers. Still, the biggest reason the Panthers are winning is defense. After Carolina allowed 20 plus points in five of their first six games, the defense has started to lock down on teams and is allowing just 9.67 points per game since then. Over the last four game Carolina has allowed just 31 points (7.75 Points per game). This team has been playing like the Bears, but with a very good offense too.
4. Chargers (8-4)(#4): San Diego over whelmed Oakland on Sunday to win their fifth consecutive game and pull within one of division leading Denver. San Diego's remaining schedule is interesting and difficult. They will play Miami at home next week before traveling to Indianapolis and Kansas City. To close out the season, the Chargers will welcome the Broncos to San Diego in a game that could decide an AFC West division champion.
3. Broncos (9-3)(#2): Denver lost a big game to Kansas City on Sunday to bring their AFC West lead to just one game with four to play. Jake Plummer threw two INT's for the first time since week one, and Denver's struggles against the Chiefs in Arrow Head Stadium continued. The Broncos have the easiest remaining schedule of AFC West contenders. The next three games come against Baltimore, Buffalo and Oakland. This sets up a seemingly large season finale at San Diego.
2. Seahawks (10-2)(#3): Seattle crushed Philly 42-0 on Monday Night to become the first ten win team in the NFC. Swarming defense created five turnovers, including three that were returned for TDs. Shaun Alexander scored his 21st and 22nd TDs of the season tieing an NFL record for most TDs through 12 games. With four games remaining, the Seahawks are looking to wrap up their first ever NFC number one seed.
1. Colts (12-0)(#1): The Colts were the first AFC team to clinch a playoff spot with a 35-3 slaughtering of Tennessee. The Colts are looking stronger every week in their chase to undefeated immortality. With a possible win over Jacksonville next week, Indy will clinch their third straight AFC South title. On Sunday Peyton Manning extended his NFL record to eight consecutive seasons with 25 or more TD passes. Manning's first quarter TD pass to Marvin Harrison also extended their record of 92 TD connection together. Chances of a 16-0 finish is looking better every week.
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interesting.
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PHATJ wrote:
Cal Varnsen wrote:
interesting.
So you agree with the rankings, Cal? That is interesting. I must be on top of my game.
i might make a few minor adjustments, but i would say its pretty good.
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Chris_H_2 wrote:
How do the Bears win decisively yet drop a spot? Do you vote in college football's coaches' poll as well?
By the way, you must have missed that Panthers/Bears' game three weeks ago.
They droped a spot because the Panthers and Bengals are better then Chicago. Chicago's offense is not getting any better. Infact they are getting worse. Also the Panthers(vs. Atlanta) and Bengals(vs. Pittsburgh) beat better competition then the Bears(vs. Green Bay). Oh and the win over the Pack was hardly convincing. It took an INT for a TD late in the fourth quarter for the Bears to lock up a game against a two win team.
BTW, I did not miss that game two weeks ago. That was the only reason the Bears were ahead of Carolina in my last Power Rankings. Carolina is playing better then Chicago. It is that simple. Over the last four games they have allowed fewer points then Chicago. And I don't think anyone in their right mind would argue that Chicago's offense is better then Carolina's.
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PHATJ wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
How do the Bears win decisively yet drop a spot? Do you vote in college football's coaches' poll as well?
By the way, you must have missed that Panthers/Bears' game three weeks ago.
They droped a spot because the Panthers and Bengals are better then Chicago. Chicago's offense is not getting any better. Infact they are getting worse. Also the Panthers and Bengals(vs. Pittsburgh) beat better competition then the Bears(vs. Green Bay). Oh and the win over the Pack was hardly convincing. It took an INT for a TD late in the fourth quarter for the Bears to lock up a game against a two win team.
Chicago's offense has been consistently below average all season. It's defense is the best in the league and is getting better. Chicago beat Carolina, was ranked ahead of Carolina last week, then all of a sudden dropped a notch because Carolina inexplicably became a better team in the matter of a week?
By the way, Chicago's been winning the way it won on Sunday all season long. How does Sunday's performance transform Carolina into a better team?
Do you honestly think Carolina can go into Chicago in January in 10 degree weather and win? They were destroyed in good weather, why the change in position. Deshaun Foster?
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Chris_H_2 wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
How do the Bears win decisively yet drop a spot? Do you vote in college football's coaches' poll as well?
By the way, you must have missed that Panthers/Bears' game three weeks ago.
They droped a spot because the Panthers and Bengals are better then Chicago. Chicago's offense is not getting any better. Infact they are getting worse. Also the Panthers and Bengals(vs. Pittsburgh) beat better competition then the Bears(vs. Green Bay). Oh and the win over the Pack was hardly convincing. It took an INT for a TD late in the fourth quarter for the Bears to lock up a game against a two win team.
Chicago's offense has been consistently below average all season. It's defense is the best in the league and is getting better. Chicago beat Carolina, was ranked ahead of Carolina last week, then all of a sudden dropped a notch because Carolina inexplicably became a better team in the matter of a week?
By the way, Chicago's been winning the way it won on Sunday all season long. How does Sunday's performance transform Carolina into a better team?
Do you honestly think Carolina can go into Chicago in January in 10 degree weather and win? They were destroyed in good weather, why the change in position. Deshaun Foster?
BTW, I did not miss that game two weeks ago. That was the only reason the Bears were ahead of Carolina in my last Power Rankings. Carolina is playing better then Chicago. It is that simple. Over the last four games they have allowed fewer points then Chicago. And I don't think anyone in their right mind would argue that Chicago's offense is better then Carolina's.
AND, my last Power Rankings were TWO weeks ago. There have been TWO games in that time that have pushed Carolina ahead of Chicago.
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PHATJ wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
How do the Bears win decisively yet drop a spot? Do you vote in college football's coaches' poll as well?
By the way, you must have missed that Panthers/Bears' game three weeks ago.
They droped a spot because the Panthers and Bengals are better then Chicago. Chicago's offense is not getting any better. Infact they are getting worse. Also the Panthers and Bengals(vs. Pittsburgh) beat better competition then the Bears(vs. Green Bay). Oh and the win over the Pack was hardly convincing. It took an INT for a TD late in the fourth quarter for the Bears to lock up a game against a two win team.
Chicago's offense has been consistently below average all season. It's defense is the best in the league and is getting better. Chicago beat Carolina, was ranked ahead of Carolina last week, then all of a sudden dropped a notch because Carolina inexplicably became a better team in the matter of a week?
By the way, Chicago's been winning the way it won on Sunday all season long. How does Sunday's performance transform Carolina into a better team?
Do you honestly think Carolina can go into Chicago in January in 10 degree weather and win? They were destroyed in good weather, why the change in position. Deshaun Foster?
BTW, I did not miss that game two weeks ago. That was the only reason the Bears were ahead of Carolina in my last Power Rankings. Carolina is playing better then Chicago. It is that simple. Over the last four games they have allowed fewer points then Chicago. And I don't think anyone in their right mind would argue that Chicago's offense is better then Carolina's.
AND, my last Power Rankings were TWO weeks ago. There have been TWO games in that time that have pushed Carolina ahead of Chicago.
Are your rankings based on the teams who are playing better or that are better overall?
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Chris_H_2 wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
How do the Bears win decisively yet drop a spot? Do you vote in college football's coaches' poll as well?
By the way, you must have missed that Panthers/Bears' game three weeks ago.
They droped a spot because the Panthers and Bengals are better then Chicago. Chicago's offense is not getting any better. Infact they are getting worse. Also the Panthers and Bengals(vs. Pittsburgh) beat better competition then the Bears(vs. Green Bay). Oh and the win over the Pack was hardly convincing. It took an INT for a TD late in the fourth quarter for the Bears to lock up a game against a two win team.
Chicago's offense has been consistently below average all season. It's defense is the best in the league and is getting better. Chicago beat Carolina, was ranked ahead of Carolina last week, then all of a sudden dropped a notch because Carolina inexplicably became a better team in the matter of a week?
By the way, Chicago's been winning the way it won on Sunday all season long. How does Sunday's performance transform Carolina into a better team?
Do you honestly think Carolina can go into Chicago in January in 10 degree weather and win? They were destroyed in good weather, why the change in position. Deshaun Foster?
BTW, I did not miss that game two weeks ago. That was the only reason the Bears were ahead of Carolina in my last Power Rankings. Carolina is playing better then Chicago. It is that simple. Over the last four games they have allowed fewer points then Chicago. And I don't think anyone in their right mind would argue that Chicago's offense is better then Carolina's.
AND, my last Power Rankings were TWO weeks ago. There have been TWO games in that time that have pushed Carolina ahead of Chicago.
Are your rankings based on the teams who are playing better or that are better overall?
Both are looked at and right now Carolina is playing better and they are a better overall team.
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PHATJ wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
How do the Bears win decisively yet drop a spot? Do you vote in college football's coaches' poll as well?
By the way, you must have missed that Panthers/Bears' game three weeks ago.
They droped a spot because the Panthers and Bengals are better then Chicago. Chicago's offense is not getting any better. Infact they are getting worse. Also the Panthers and Bengals(vs. Pittsburgh) beat better competition then the Bears(vs. Green Bay). Oh and the win over the Pack was hardly convincing. It took an INT for a TD late in the fourth quarter for the Bears to lock up a game against a two win team.
Chicago's offense has been consistently below average all season. It's defense is the best in the league and is getting better. Chicago beat Carolina, was ranked ahead of Carolina last week, then all of a sudden dropped a notch because Carolina inexplicably became a better team in the matter of a week?
By the way, Chicago's been winning the way it won on Sunday all season long. How does Sunday's performance transform Carolina into a better team?
Do you honestly think Carolina can go into Chicago in January in 10 degree weather and win? They were destroyed in good weather, why the change in position. Deshaun Foster?
BTW, I did not miss that game two weeks ago. That was the only reason the Bears were ahead of Carolina in my last Power Rankings. Carolina is playing better then Chicago. It is that simple. Over the last four games they have allowed fewer points then Chicago. And I don't think anyone in their right mind would argue that Chicago's offense is better then Carolina's.
AND, my last Power Rankings were TWO weeks ago. There have been TWO games in that time that have pushed Carolina ahead of Chicago.
Are your rankings based on the teams who are playing better or that are better overall?
Both are looked at and right now Carolina is playing better and they are a better overall team.
You have nothing to go by in terms of saying Carolina is a better team overall. They definitely have a better offense than the Bears, but so has 90% of the teams in the NFL. So you have the best defense in the league v. a better offense. If you're looking at something that would tip the scales, wouldn't you look at head to head? The Bear's defense completely shut down Carolina's offense. Again, you can't possibly argue that Carolina can go into Chicago in Janunary and do what it couldn't do in November, can you?
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