Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:15 pm Posts: 25452 Location: Under my wing like Sanford & Son Gender: Male
Very good author, one of the originators of existentialism and the absurd. His The Stranger and The Myth of Sisyphus are two of the best works I've ever read. Any fans?
_________________ Now that god no longer exists, the desire for another world still remains.
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:01 am Posts: 19477 Location: Brooklyn NY
I read the Stranger in High School, didn't really think much of it
_________________
LittleWing sometime in July 2007 wrote:
Unfortunately, it's so elementary, and the big time investors behind the drive in the stock market aren't so stupid. This isn't the false economy of 2000.
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 5:02 am Posts: 3279 Location: Department K, North of 60
OrpheusDescending wrote:
Very good author, one of the originators of existentialism and the absurd. His The Stranger and The Myth of Sisyphus are two of the best works I've ever read. Any fans?
Originators? Not quite true.
But anyway, The Stranger struck me down when I first read it -- at the time, it was such a different reading experience. Truly a great book...
_________________ This isn't just another one of those get rich quick schemes. This scheme is guaranteed to get us rich... and quick!
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:15 pm Posts: 25452 Location: Under my wing like Sanford & Son Gender: Male
Iago wrote:
OrpheusDescending wrote:
Very good author, one of the originators of existentialism and the absurd. His The Stranger and The Myth of Sisyphus are two of the best works I've ever read. Any fans?
Originators? Not quite true.
But anyway, The Stranger struck me down when I first read it -- at the time, it was such a different reading experience. Truly a great book...
In terms of existentialism being a more popular form of expression, I'd credit Camus, especially The Myth of Sisyphus. But it's cool if I'm wrong.
_________________ Now that god no longer exists, the desire for another world still remains.
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 5:02 am Posts: 3279 Location: Department K, North of 60
OrpheusDescending wrote:
Iago wrote:
OrpheusDescending wrote:
Very good author, one of the originators of existentialism and the absurd. His The Stranger and The Myth of Sisyphus are two of the best works I've ever read. Any fans?
Originators? Not quite true.
But anyway, The Stranger struck me down when I first read it -- at the time, it was such a different reading experience. Truly a great book...
In terms of existentialism being a more popular form of expression, I'd credit Camus, especially The Myth of Sisyphus. But it's cool if I'm wrong.
Under this umbrella, I agree...
_________________ This isn't just another one of those get rich quick schemes. This scheme is guaranteed to get us rich... and quick!
I'm a fan. The Stranger is pretty great, especially. I think he cuts right to the heart of existentialism with that passage in the middle of the book, when Mersault is deciding whether or not to shoot the Arab. I don't have time to find it now, but I'll try to post it later.
_________________
vacatetheword wrote:
I'll let you in on a little secret. Sometimes we mis-spell stuff and just tell you Americans 'it's how we spell it here'
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 11:56 am Posts: 1157 Location: England
OrpheusDescending wrote:
Iago wrote:
OrpheusDescending wrote:
Very good author, one of the originators of existentialism and the absurd. His The Stranger and The Myth of Sisyphus are two of the best works I've ever read. Any fans?
Originators? Not quite true.
But anyway, The Stranger struck me down when I first read it -- at the time, it was such a different reading experience. Truly a great book...
In terms of existentialism being a more popular form of expression, I'd credit Camus, especially The Myth of Sisyphus. But it's cool if I'm wrong.
The movement itself started long before Camus, inspired mainly by the works of Kierkegaard and then Hegel and Heidegger. If you're interested in existentialism, or at least its founding principals check out L'Existentialisme est un humanisme by Sartre. Although bear in mind that because of his Communist tendencies, Sartre often tries to reconcile existentialism with Communism so there are often discrepancies between his political and philosophical views. See The Age of Reason for an example of these discrepancies.
Camus is, to me, one of the greatest authors. The Fall and Exile and The Kingdom the latter being a collection of his short stories, are engaging and wonderful to read and I'd highly recommend them both.
Henri Bergson is also fascinating, as long as you don't mind losing a few days.
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:17 am Posts: 785 Location: The Control Room
At the time I read The Stranger, I didn't really connect w/ it. But since then, I've often come back to the stuff (and correct me if I'm screwy on the details here....it's been years) regarding Mersault's seeming lack of emotion of his mother's (?) death. I've often wondered if I'd be able to cry or show the emotion I was feeling in such a situation, and if not, how that might indict me (not literally indicted, but I'm sure you know what I mean).
_________________ I'm intercontinental when I eat french toast.
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:02 am Posts: 84 Location: erm...there...
seen77 wrote:
At the time I read The Stranger, I didn't really connect w/ it. But since then, I've often come back to the stuff (and correct me if I'm screwy on the details here....it's been years) regarding Mersault's seeming lack of emotion of his mother's (?) death. I've often wondered if I'd be able to cry or show the emotion I was feeling in such a situation, and if not, how that might indict me (not literally indicted, but I'm sure you know what I mean).
You mean, in America the title is translated as THE STRANGER?????? Wow. It is The Outsider here. That explains The Law in the Kafka thread.
_________________ "A worthy leader has the desire to serve, not to dominate."
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 1:03 am Posts: 24177 Location: Australia
i've been meaning to read The Stranger for a while now but last time i looked for it in the library i couldn't find a copy in english. i just read a review of matthew lamb's 'left, right, what's wrong' what had some interesting insights into camus. now i'm thinking i may read the rebel first instead. has anyone read it? thoughts?
_________________ Oh, the flowers of indulgence and the weeds of yesteryear, Like criminals, they have choked the breath of conscience and good cheer. The sun beat down upon the steps of time to light the way To ease the pain of idleness and the memory of decay.
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:15 pm Posts: 25452 Location: Under my wing like Sanford & Son Gender: Male
vacatetheword wrote:
i've been meaning to read The Stranger for a while now but last time i looked for it in the library i couldn't find a copy in english. i just read a review of matthew lamb's 'left, right, what's wrong' what had some interesting insights into camus. now i'm thinking i may read the rebel first instead. has anyone read it? thoughts?
Hmmm, other than The Stranger, I've heard The Plague is his best. Also read The Myth of Sisyphus, it's short but fantastic. That's wack that you can't find The Stranger.
_________________ Now that god no longer exists, the desire for another world still remains.
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 1:03 am Posts: 24177 Location: Australia
OrpheusDescending wrote:
vacatetheword wrote:
i've been meaning to read The Stranger for a while now but last time i looked for it in the library i couldn't find a copy in english. i just read a review of matthew lamb's 'left, right, what's wrong' what had some interesting insights into camus. now i'm thinking i may read the rebel first instead. has anyone read it? thoughts?
Hmmm, other than The Stranger, I've heard The Plague is his best. Also read The Myth of Sisyphus, it's short but fantastic. That's wack that you can't find The Stranger.
i found plenty of copies in french
_________________ Oh, the flowers of indulgence and the weeds of yesteryear, Like criminals, they have choked the breath of conscience and good cheer. The sun beat down upon the steps of time to light the way To ease the pain of idleness and the memory of decay.
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:51 am Posts: 15460 Location: Long Island, New York
OrpheusDescending wrote:
vacatetheword wrote:
i've been meaning to read The Stranger for a while now but last time i looked for it in the library i couldn't find a copy in english. i just read a review of matthew lamb's 'left, right, what's wrong' what had some interesting insights into camus. now i'm thinking i may read the rebel first instead. has anyone read it? thoughts?
Hmmm, other than The Stranger, I've heard The Plague is his best. Also read The Myth of Sisyphus, it's short but fantastic. That's wack that you can't find The Stranger.
Should I take this out from the library?
_________________
lutor3f wrote:
Love is the delightful interval between meeting a beautiful girl and discovering that she looks like a haddock
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:36 am Posts: 5458 Location: Left field
Great man, expanded on the themes in more of human and in more detail the phliosophy of Sarte, Neitzche, and ....churchyard, I can't spell his real name, love his work though.
_________________ seen it all, not at all can't defend fucked up man take me a for a ride before we leave...
Rise. Life is in motion...
don't it make you smile? don't it make you smile? when the sun don't shine? (shine at all) don't it make you smile?
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 1:03 am Posts: 24177 Location: Australia
i ended up buying the rebel last week. i'll probably start on it tomorrow night.
_________________ Oh, the flowers of indulgence and the weeds of yesteryear, Like criminals, they have choked the breath of conscience and good cheer. The sun beat down upon the steps of time to light the way To ease the pain of idleness and the memory of decay.
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum