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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:33 am 
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What films do you feel truly deserve an A+? For me, it depends on whether or I'm thinking in terms of how much I enjoyed it or trying to be objective.

If I was talking personally, I gave all of these films an A+:
The Godfather
Star Wars: Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
Pulp Fiction
A Clockwork Orange
Reservoir Dogs
Lost In Translation
The Fearless Vampire Killers
2001: A Space Odyssey
Star Wars: Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
GoodFellas
Aliens
Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Now, if I was being objective, I think I've only seen four films I believe deserve an A+, those being:
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
2001: A Space Odyssey
Adaptation
Citizen Kane

What does everyone else think? Are there any films that get an A+ both objectively and personally? Are you able to differentiate? Thoughts?

EDIT: Oh, and by the way, what kind of criteria do you have for what would qualify as an A+ film? For me, it has to be, as the rating would suggest, flawless. The acting, directing, and other technicalities would have to be perfect, obviously, but it has to go beyond that. It has to be original, daring, honest, thought-provoking, emotional, beautiful, sad...all of these things and more. There are plenty of films that are close to an objective A+ in my opinion, such as Dr. Strangelove, as that film is perfect for what it is - hilarious, dark, intelligent, witty, and it delivers an unsettling social commentary with impeccable satiric flair. However, it fails to have any kind of emotional resonance. Granted, that is not what that type of film is meant to do, but the very fact that it is essentially without emotion disqualifies it in my opinion.

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Birth of a Nation - as repulsive as the racism is, it basically invented cinema as we know it.

City Lights - Chaplin's best all-around film, I think, which makes it one of the best all-around films ever. Still funny and affecting after 76 years.

Seven Samurai- it genuinely lives up to its hype, and has possibly the best battle scene ever filmed

High Noon - an hour and a half that feels more like 10 minutes (and I mean that in the best way possible).

8 1/2 - Fellini's autobiographical hallucination.

Jaws - a perfect suspensful adventure movie.

Blade Runner (DC) - blends the best of noir and sci-fi.


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Raiders of the Lost Ark
2001: A Space Odyssey
The Shawshank Redemption
Psycho
Vertigo
The Empire Strikes Back
Casablanca
Raging Bull
Chung King Express


It's hard to really define what makes an A+ movie. I don't think all my choices are flawless films. Psycho is probably the most flawed of all those I listed, but as a whole, I just feel so strongly about the movie that I rate it with an A+.

Also, I find it impossible to be objective when rating movies or any other kind of art. It seems really strange to step outside of myself and rate movies based on criteria that come from somewhere other than my own heart, soul, and mind.

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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
What films do you feel truly deserve an A+? For me, it depends on whether or I'm thinking in terms of how much I enjoyed it or trying to be objective.

If I was talking personally, I gave all of these films an A+:
The Godfather
Star Wars: Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
Pulp Fiction
A Clockwork Orange
Reservoir Dogs
Lost In Translation
The Fearless Vampire Killers
2001: A Space Odyssey
Star Wars: Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
GoodFellas
Aliens
Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Now, if I was being objective, I think I've only seen four films I believe deserve an A+, those being:
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
2001: A Space Odyssey
Adaptation
Citizen Kane

What does everyone else think? Are there any films that get an A+ both objectively and personally? Are you able to differentiate? Thoughts?

EDIT: Oh, and by the way, what kind of criteria do you have for what would qualify as an A+ film? For me, it has to be, as the rating would suggest, flawless. The acting, directing, and other technicalities would have to be perfect, obviously, but it has to go beyond that. It has to be original, daring, honest, thought-provoking, emotional, beautiful, sad...all of these things and more. There are plenty of films that are close to an objective A+ in my opinion, such as Dr. Strangelove, as that film is perfect for what it is - hilarious, dark, intelligent, witty, and it delivers an unsettling social commentary with impeccable satiric flair. However, it fails to have any kind of emotional resonance. Granted, that is not what that type of film is meant to do, but the very fact that it is essentially without emotion disqualifies it in my opinion.



what magazine did your list come from? with that, i'll add willow and tommy boy.

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scarface anyone?

i'll post a list later...

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bart d. wrote:
Birth of a Nation - as repulsive as the racism is, it basically invented cinema as we know it.

City Lights - Chaplin's best all-around film, I think, which makes it one of the best all-around films ever. Still funny and affecting after 76 years.

Seven Samurai- it genuinely lives up to its hype, and has possibly the best battle scene ever filmed

High Noon - an hour and a half that feels more like 10 minutes (and I mean that in the best way possible).

8 1/2 - Fellini's autobiographical hallucination.

Jaws - a perfect suspensful adventure movie.

Blade Runner (DC) - blends the best of noir and sci-fi.


i agree especially with high noon (best western) and jaws


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The Big So-So wrote:
Fanny and Alexander
Raiders of the Lost Ark
2001: A Space Odyssey
The Shawshank Redemption
Psycho
Vertigo
The Empire Strikes Back
Casablanca
Raging Bull
Chung King Express


It's hard to really define what makes an A+ movie. I don't think all my choices are flawless films. Psycho is probably the most flawed of all those I listed, but as a whole, I just feel so strongly about the movie that I rate it with an A+.

Also, I find it impossible to be objective when rating movies or any other kind of art. It seems really strange to step outside of myself and rate movies based on criteria that come from somewhere other than my own heart, soul, and mind.


jeez you liked vertigo?! yuk. i hated that movie

i agree with most of the list though


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The Big Sleep
High Noon
The Godfather
Shakespeare in Love


i promise i'll work on an extensive list


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i'm gonna have to throw in my two cents and say:

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i judge a movie on how entertaining it is, i dont care who the director is, what the cast is made up of, or who is producing it

i go to be entertained, or rent to kill some time, and hopefully its worth it for me

sliding doors, spiderman (1 and 2), xmen (1 and 2), the first three star wars, raiders of the lost arc, weird science, and probably my favorite movie ever, beetlejuice

im sure im missing otheres but there are

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Hi.

There's this guy named Jean Luc Godard. He's pretty all right. In fact, he was pretty brilliant and revolutionary. His absence from this thread saddens i_i.

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inadvertent imitation wrote:
Hi.

There's this guy named Jean Luc Godard. He's pretty all right. In fact, he was pretty brilliant and revolutionary. His absence from this thread saddens i_i.


I like Godard but I prefer Truffaut. Godard may have come first and was more of a trailblazer, but I think Truffaut made films that were more entertaining while adhering to Godard's revolutionary film ideas.

That being said, "Breathless" is one of the ballsiest movies to ever be made in terms of style and narrative. The sad part is most people who read this will think I'm talking about that awful Richard Gere film from 1983.

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south park blu made me laugh more than any movie ever..earns it an a++++..best movie ever

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Aliens
Munich
Schindler's List
Saving Private Ryan
The Godfather
Raiders of the Lost Ark
The Good, The Bad & The Ugly
Rear Window
Jaws
Phat Beach

Those are the only ones that come to mind, at the moment. For me, I can't really put into words what makes a film A+. I know it when I see it.

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I haven't seen 90% of the movies mentioned in this thread.


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godeatgod wrote:
I haven't seen 90% of the movies mentioned in this thread.


geg for some reason I get the feeling you're a huge fan of the movie "Heathers."

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dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
inadvertent imitation wrote:
Hi.

There's this guy named Jean Luc Godard. He's pretty all right. In fact, he was pretty brilliant and revolutionary. His absence from this thread saddens i_i.


I like Godard but I prefer Truffaut. Godard may have come first and was more of a trailblazer, but I think Truffaut made films that were more entertaining while adhering to Godard's revolutionary film ideas.

That being said, "Breathless" is one of the ballsiest movies to ever be made in terms of style and narrative. The sad part is most people who read this will think I'm talking about that awful Richard Gere film from 1983.


I love Casablanca, The Big Sleep, Star Wars etc. etc. However seriously, everyone needs to AT LEAST go check out the following directors and movies & then meet us back here in this thread. I haven't even seen all the movies these directors made, just a hand fool in fact. But there are so many brilliant movies out there. I couldn't limit myself to just american.

Marcel Carne - Children of Paradise
Luis Bunuel - Belle De Jour
Jean Luc Godard - Breathless
Ingmar Bergman - Seventh Seal
Vittorio De Sica - The Bicycle thief
Federico Fellini - 8 1/2
Fitz Lang - M


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jacktor wrote:
dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
inadvertent imitation wrote:
Hi.

There's this guy named Jean Luc Godard. He's pretty all right. In fact, he was pretty brilliant and revolutionary. His absence from this thread saddens i_i.


I like Godard but I prefer Truffaut. Godard may have come first and was more of a trailblazer, but I think Truffaut made films that were more entertaining while adhering to Godard's revolutionary film ideas.

That being said, "Breathless" is one of the ballsiest movies to ever be made in terms of style and narrative. The sad part is most people who read this will think I'm talking about that awful Richard Gere film from 1983.


I love Casablanca, The Big Sleep, Star Wars etc. etc. However seriously, everyone needs to AT LEAST go check out the following directors and movies & then meet us back here in this thread. I haven't even seen all the movies these directors made, just a hand fool in fact. But there are so many brilliant movies out there. I couldn't limit myself to just american.

Marcel Carne - Children of Paradise
Luis Bunuel - Belle De Jour
Jean Luc Godard - Breathless
Ingmar Bergman - Seventh Seal
Vittorio De Sica - The Bicycle thief

Federico Fellini - 8 1/2
Fitz Lang - M


those are great!...absolutely A+
haven´t seen the other ones though

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