If it were up to me, I'd suspend him for about 2 games. While I understand WHY he did what he did, I think his actions deserve a suspension.
I have a feeling Stern will probably give him a 5 game ban...which will probably get knocked down a bit by the Players Assocation.
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i dont think he should be suspended. if someone was in my wife's/girlfriend's face i would have done the same thing. but stern will probably give him 5
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he SHOULDNT be suspended, but he will, and if Stern gives Tony anything more than 2 games hes a big time asshole. we all know how Stern feels about the NYK to begin with
I dont care how many games he winds up with, what Davis did is alright by me and probably 99% of the world. I was watching the game when it happened, and he was so calm about it even while jumping the scorers table I thought he hurt himslef and was going to the locker room at first.
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I had the same intial reaction as most of the posts above me. However after I thought about it some more I think he should be suspended for about 5 games. Unless the guy was being physical with his wife, which the video doesn't show anything of that nature, I don't understand his actions. A simple pointing out to security is what he should have done. A fan has no place on the floor and a player has no place in the stands. Period. You really have no room for flexibility on this issue. Even though his coming into the stands didn't cause a disruption this time, you don't know what kind of chaos it could cause. Security should be on hand for players to talk to about situations that may arise in the stands and keep everyone where they should be, players and fans alike.
in light of what happened last year, i think this was a stupid move. there's all kinds of other people in the area that he could have said "go tell him to get out of my wife's face" or whatever.
i like AD a lot. I think he's a very classy guy, but i think this was kind of a stupid move.
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knuckles of frisco wrote:
in light of what happened last year, i think this was a stupid move. there's all kinds of other people in the area that he could have said "go tell him to get out of my wife's face" or whatever. i like AD a lot. I think he's a very classy guy, but i think this was kind of a stupid move.
after the fact yes it was a stupid move, but he thought his wife was in trouble, and handled it as calm as can be for feeling the need to actually go up there mid-timeout. the REAL problem in all of this is the complete lack of security STILL at NBA games, even after "the brawl".
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Koufax wrote:
knuckles of frisco wrote:
in light of what happened last year, i think this was a stupid move. there's all kinds of other people in the area that he could have said "go tell him to get out of my wife's face" or whatever. i like AD a lot. I think he's a very classy guy, but i think this was kind of a stupid move.
after the fact yes it was a stupid move, but he thought his wife was in trouble, and handled it as calm as can be for feeling the need to actually go up there mid-timeout. the REAL problem in all of this is the complete lack of security STILL at NBA games, even after "the brawl".
Why didn't he just inform security that his wife was being harrassed? There is security at the games. What do you expect security to do if a player decides to go into the stands? You can't really stop them right away. The player should know better.
I had the same intial reaction as most of the posts above me. However after I thought about it some more I think he should be suspended for about 5 games. Unless the guy was being physical with his wife, which the video doesn't show anything of that nature, I don't understand his actions.
the camera didn't show that area until Davis went there. Unless there's a security camera, there's no way to know for sure what happened (or didn't happen) between the heckler and his wife.
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A simple pointing out to security is what he should have done.
This is very easy to say after fact. "um...excuse me...Mr. 5.00 Dollar an Hour Security Guard...can you please break up the confrontation between my wife and the drunk guy who's bothering her? Thanks".
Please, 99.9 percent of the men in this world would have done what he did.
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A fan has no place on the floor and a player has no place in the stands. Period. You really have no room for flexibility on this issue.
I agree. He deserves some sort of punishment, but I'm not sure how you can say he should have handled it differently.
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Even though his coming into the stands didn't cause a disruption this time, you don't know what kind of chaos it could cause. Security should be on hand for players to talk to about situations that may arise in the stands and keep everyone where they should be, players and fans alike.
You can't say Davis should have pointed it out to security - and then say the league should have extra personnel on hand. You're basically saying Davis should have relied upon inadequate security to take care of his family.....
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Cartman wrote:
Koufax wrote:
knuckles of frisco wrote:
in light of what happened last year, i think this was a stupid move. there's all kinds of other people in the area that he could have said "go tell him to get out of my wife's face" or whatever. i like AD a lot. I think he's a very classy guy, but i think this was kind of a stupid move.
after the fact yes it was a stupid move, but he thought his wife was in trouble, and handled it as calm as can be for feeling the need to actually go up there mid-timeout. the REAL problem in all of this is the complete lack of security STILL at NBA games, even after "the brawl".
Why didn't he just inform security that his wife was being harrassed? There is security at the games. What do you expect security to do if a player decides to go into the stands? You can't really stop them right away. The player should know better.
I dont know Cartman Ive never been in that situation. Id like to think Id go protect my wife rather than raise my hand and wait for a so called "security guard" to come over so I can ask him to go up and check on my wife, you know, if hes got the time.
I dont think what Davis did should be viewed as some heroic thing, but I dont see how someone can take the attitude of "he never should have done it players dont belong in the stands yada yada...". he wasnt going to confront some heckler, he felt his wife was in danger.
the level of media coverage the incident is attracting suggests plenty of people care....
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who cares...
some of the same people who care when the jets fire or hire yet another loser coach and some of the same people who care when the islanders finish another sucky no-playoffs year
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Cartman wrote:
I had the same intial reaction as most of the posts above me. However after I thought about it some more I think he should be suspended for about 5 games. Unless the guy was being physical with his wife, which the video doesn't show anything of that nature, I don't understand his actions.
the camera didn't show that area until Davis went there. Unless there's a security camera, there's no way to know for sure what happened (or didn't happen) between the heckler and his wife.
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A simple pointing out to security is what he should have done.
This is very easy to say after fact. "um...excuse me...Mr. 5.00 Dollar an Hour Security Guard...can you please break up the confrontation between my wife and the drunk guy who's bothering her? Thanks".
Please, 99.9 percent of the men in this world would have done what he did.
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A fan has no place on the floor and a player has no place in the stands. Period. You really have no room for flexibility on this issue.
I agree. He deserves some sort of punishment, but I'm not sure how you can say he should have handled it differently.
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Even though his coming into the stands didn't cause a disruption this time, you don't know what kind of chaos it could cause. Security should be on hand for players to talk to about situations that may arise in the stands and keep everyone where they should be, players and fans alike.
You can't say Davis should have pointed it out to security - and then say the league should have extra personnel on hand. You're basically saying Davis should have relied upon inadequate security to take care of his family.....
Well, I don't know what exactly happened because I wasn't there but from reports, which is all I can judge this by, the reports suggest that the fan was drunk and being verbally abusive. Not physical. But I wasn't there so I don't know.
If it was my wife, would I do the same thing? Maybe, perhaps. But I wouldn't get mad if I received a punishment for doing so. Sometimes I break the law because the consequences vs. the result justify doing so. But if I got caught I'd expect punishment.
As for security, I doubt they are $5 an hour security guards. They probably get paid decent and I'd being willing to bet that many are off duty cops. ANyway, the reason I suggested security on the floor was in reaction to these types of situations. I think a punishment should be served and extra security provided on the floor from now on for players to contact about issues. This could prevent disasters from happening.
I gotta agree with most people here. I don't blame him at all for going up there. He was reacting instinctively, and to a point I respect him for going up there. But rules have to be followed and unfortunately by doing what he did, he warrants a suspension. I think it should only be 2 games though.
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Suspend him for 10 games. No good comes from setting any precedent that it's ok under any circumstance to go into the stands, no fine, just suspend him for 10 games.
I hate it, but thems the rules. They are there for a reason, we need to continue to believe there is an invisible wall between the stands and the arena.
If he believes something is happening, contact security, if there is not enough security, get more. He was one haymaker from some idiot fan from starting another melee, even if he was calm.
Do I blame the guy? no, not at all, but there has to be a significant suspension leveed.
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