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 Post subject: Lord of War and Flightplan
PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:00 pm 
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Rented these two:

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Pretty good film. Tries a little too hard to be a bio-pic in the "Blow" vein, but it otherwise succeeds at being entertaining and making attention of the effects of arms dealing, something contemporary films haven't dealt with other than their inclusion in bad action films. In terms of its politics its a little heavy-handed (at one point there is a picture of Ronald Regan being used as target practice) and would probably turn people off who were just going to see a film because of Nicholas Cage and guns. In terms of making statements, I think the audience should be "tricked" into new perspectives rather than have a character hold up a newspaper c. 2000 election and say "Is this what democracy in your country is?" Yes, someone in the film actually says this. Its very unsubtle and tacky. The dialogue is for the most part poorly written throughout and just not all that humorous, but the direction is still there and Nicholas Cage's character was surprisingly good.

The film also has one of the coolest time-lapses I've ever seen, set to a cheesy philosophy 101 monologue which nearly ruins it (its a plane being disassembled while a character elaborates on "from dust to dust" or something similar along those lines). The effect would have been much greater without it. Also, I have a serious problem with the way modern films handle violence. Not that I think its wrong, I just think quickly cutting up images of people getting shot is just inaffective to modern audiences now, but that's just a personal theory.

So overall, a good film that's an interesting character study that also has some good moralizing. The settings were neat too.

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For the 30th time, Jodi Foster plays a determined mother who has to protect her child from sinister forces. Let me start off by saying the movie's conspiracy premise is absurd once it becomes apparent towards the end of the film, and is probably somewhat predictable. The end itself is awful and the writers/director should have known when to quit, but the movie was more of an exercise in style than anything. In the Hitchcock tradition of suspense/paranoia/thrills, it succeeds. Its really nothing more than this with the usual assortment of characters who are either nice to her and believe her, or think she's a lunatic. It often appeals to cheap emotional impulses rather than actual logic but is pretty exciting and the cinematography offers some really nice pictures to look at. A lot of imagination went into creating the plane set and the movie does some pretty spectacular things with it.

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hah, sorry guys. Looks like someone hosting images was being a cocksmoker.

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LittleWing sometime in July 2007 wrote:
Unfortunately, it's so elementary, and the big time investors behind the drive in the stock market aren't so stupid. This isn't the false economy of 2000.


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How can 30 people look at the thread and not say anything. Fuck you guys.

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LittleWing sometime in July 2007 wrote:
Unfortunately, it's so elementary, and the big time investors behind the drive in the stock market aren't so stupid. This isn't the false economy of 2000.


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Peeps wrote:
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How can 30 people look at the thread and not say anything. Fuck you guys.


what do you think view #3 PM'd you about, dumbass


Yeah, I just caught that and Buggy's PM a minute ago. It didn't notify me in a bulletin for some reason this time so I didn't even realize I had any PMs.

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LittleWing sometime in July 2007 wrote:
Unfortunately, it's so elementary, and the big time investors behind the drive in the stock market aren't so stupid. This isn't the false economy of 2000.


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I think we should turn this thread into a discussion of why asshole webmasters won't allow people to use images, or why the fuck Google image search even brings them up at all.

Sorry I'm just really embarassed :oops:

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LittleWing sometime in July 2007 wrote:
Unfortunately, it's so elementary, and the big time investors behind the drive in the stock market aren't so stupid. This isn't the false economy of 2000.


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how many times did you try and fix it? heh.


i pretty much agree with your review of flightplan. more or less logicless fluff, but it was paced well enough to keep me in my seat. and i would totally jam it in the evil stewardess

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also, have you seen "Dead Man"?

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and i would totally jam it in the evil stewardess


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also, have you seen "Dead Man"?


that movie is so bad ass.

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I fixed it once, I got PM's and saw Buggy's notice

And no I've never seen Dead Man

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Unfortunately, it's so elementary, and the big time investors behind the drive in the stock market aren't so stupid. This isn't the false economy of 2000.


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knuckles of frisco wrote:
how many times did you try and fix it? heh.


i pretty much agree with your review of flightplan. more or less logicless fluff, but it was paced well enough to keep me in my seat. and i would totally jam it in the evil stewardess

yah, she ain't bad at all. i like the other stewardess too. hell, i'd fuck sean bean.


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lord of war was good, but i have to say it had the biggest cliche song selection i've ever seen

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And no I've never seen Dead Man

I don't know why it was brought up in this thread, but you should!

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Lord of War is shite.

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I had a lot of fun with Lord of War. When the main character has no redeemable qualities, it makes it tough to feel much emotion though. It works better as a dark comedy then a political biopic which I think was not the intention at all, and that makes it a bit of a failure.

Flightplan was pure crap, but entertaining crap.


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i liked Lord of War. the start of it was really cool.

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just watched lord of war. thought it was pretty good.


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just finished LOW a few minutes ago. It was good, a bit of a downer in total, but it had its cool aspects. I liked Andy, the president of Liberia, and some of the plot lines, but whoever said the main character had no redeemable qualities hit the nail on the head.

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And no I've never seen Dead Man

it's worth watching. not that i'm saying it's great, mind you, but probably worth the two hours.

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lord of war is pretty good, fightplan is shite and dead man is just awesome. tho i have no idea what the last one has to do with the first 2 ones.


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